YART: Should public schools be allowed to have a Bible studies class?

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gopunk

Lifer
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they can have a class that studies religions as an academic topic, a study on history and psychology... but if the purpose of the class is to teach religions as a way of life, as if they were true, then no.
 

TitanDiddly

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YES. Students would not be forced to take it, so it's legal

You are guaranteed freedom OF religeon, not freedom FROM it.
 

TheBoyBlunder

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If it's a religious class, heck no. If it's a study of the bible academically, especially as a comparative religion class, a study of the bible as history, or a study of the bible as literature, sure.
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
You are guaranteed freedom OF religeon, not freedom FROM it.
Most retarded statement of the day.
 

przero

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"sure, as long as its a unanimous vote and the school receives no funding from any source other than those specific people. "

I agree wholeheartedly. Now let's do the same with abortions!!
 

AreaCode707

Lifer
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Hm, study the book that has had the single greatest affect on the shape of Western history, either good or bad. What a novel idea.
 

MAME

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Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
You are guaranteed freedom OF religeon, not freedom FROM it.
Most retarded statement of the day.


Tell that to the supreme court justice who said it.

I think he meant it as taken in to context
 

MAME

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Originally posted by: HotChic
Hm, study the book that has had the single greatest affect on the shape of Western history, either good or bad. What a novel idea.

Wow, you're totally not biased.
 

Sid59

Lifer
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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
People are confusing a "bible study" with the study of the Bible academically.

indeed. in high school we read the bible for academics and write about it. you could opt out but why opt out when you can learn more.
 

MAME

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Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
Originally posted by: MAME
Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
You are guaranteed freedom OF religeon, not freedom FROM it.
Most retarded statement of the day.


Tell that to the supreme court justice who said it.

I think he meant it as taken in to context


...

What a well thought out reply! What exactly are you trying to convey here?
 

spanner

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Jun 11, 2001
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Just as long as it is completely optional and they do the same for literatures of other religions. I am an ethiest but I do believe some of the stuff in those books is meaningfull and enlightening.
 

MAME

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Originally posted by: HotChic
Hm, study the book that has had the single greatest affect on the shape of Western history, either good or bad. What a novel idea.

I thought up a good reply in the shower while thinking of you:

If we go by your logic, that's like saying "We should study the hammer for a semester to learn about modern architecture"

Study the CAUSES and REASONS for Western History, not the Bible. The contents of the Bible are completely irrelevant.

Don't they teach you in Sunday school about how things really were back then (and now) with the corruption and greed?
 

axelfox

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In 7th grade our class studied Islam. Why didn't someone throw a fit back then? ~1992
 

Jeff7181

Lifer
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Not a class, but as an afterschool group that meets at the school, that would be fine. It should in no way be required, or be able to fill a class requirement.
 

Extrarius

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Not a class, but as an afterschool group that meets at the school, that would be fine. It should in no way be required, or be able to fill a class requirement.
Why not? If its not going to be a class, there is no point in it. Sure it shouldn't satify a core class requirement like X credits of english, but it should definitely count as an elective credit as long as its an objective study of religions
 

Red Dawn

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THe Bible, especially the Old Testament, would be too racy for children. There is more adultry, incest, murder and mayhem than in most books banned from public schools.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
YES. Students would not be forced to take it, so it's legal

You are guaranteed freedom OF religeon, not freedom FROM it.
Are you trying to tell me that I am not guaranteed freedom from religion? What Religion am I not guaranteed freedom from? Christian, Judiasm, Islam, Wicca?
 

JoeKing

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yes, along as they offer the same courses on the study of the Torra, The Teaching Of Buddha and whatever other religous tomes the students request. As long as the option is there.
 

aircooled

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nope.
they can learn religion on their own dime.... our tax dollars have better things to do....
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Originally posted by: lirion
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
No of course not... Why would anyone suggest this?


Because the bible is one of the pillars of Western Civilization?

What do you mean "pillar of Western Civilization"?????

huh really? i'm sure the bible has something about capitalism and democracy in there right? its only during periods of history where religious ferver died down did societies flourish with science, philosophy, culture. the other parts are called the dark ages. we flourished in spite of it.

and frankly, with all the whining about our children failing in all core subjects, there isn't the time or money to be spared for such a thing.
 

kami333

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Originally posted by: TheBoyBlunder
If it's a religious class, heck no. If it's a study of the bible academically, especially as a comparative religion class, a study of the bible as history, or a study of the bible as literature, sure.

That's pretty much what the first half of AP Euro was, I even ended up buying a study bible and reading it because it helped me understand some of the stuff better.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Where is the option for HELL NO?

The Bible is the basis for Christianity. Teaching a Bible studies course would be tantamount to the "establishment of a religion" which is strictly forbidden by the Federal Constitution.

If someone wants their children to have a Bible studies course, there are plenty of FREE Sunday School sessions or they could put their child in a private school. Or, wow, imagine this, they could teach their children themselves! Of course, in that case though, we'd have Fund A Mental Case wackos spreading distorted views of the Bible.