YART: Should public schools be allowed to have a Bible studies class?

[bigdog1218]

Originally posted by: MAME
yes if they include all 999 other religions

This argument is so useless why even bother posting it, do you learn every language when you go to school? Every piece of history? Every book in English? Or just the most influential ones, the bible is the most printed book ever, no one said anything about learning about religion.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

No of course not... Why would anyone suggest this?

 

[Wallydraigle]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
No of course not... Why would anyone suggest this?

Because the bible is one of the pillars of Western Civilization?

 

[QueHuong]

Originally posted by: bigdog1218

Originally posted by: MindStorm
Only if they allow other religion classes. But that's impossible. So, either none or all.

How many foreign language classes did your high school offer? None or all, or only the most popular? Nice try though.

Are you really as stupid as you try to come across? Is there a law that says the government shall not endorse a foreign language? Don't even try to rebut my point by saying English is the official language. The US does not have an official religion nor is it supposed to promote one religion over another, so don't even try to use any analogies connecting religion and language. I can't say nice try, because it wasn't.

 

[Wuffsunie]

If it's an elective course backed up by sufficent demand in the area, I see no problems with it. Same would go for other religions. I believe that most public schools and highschools get their funding locally and should reflect local concerns. Besides, it's not like it'd be coming out of the pocket of everyone who's against it.

 

[Yossarian]

I would be ok with that as long as it was an elective literature class rather than some kind of prayer-fest.

 

[Mallow]

focusing on christianity would be wrong. like someone said earlier... a comparitive religous class would be ok as long as it didn't favor one religon over another.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: lirion

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
No of course not... Why would anyone suggest this?

Because the bible is one of the pillars of Western Civilization?

What do you mean "pillar of Western Civilization"?????

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: lirion

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
No of course not... Why would anyone suggest this?

Because the bible is one of the pillars of Western Civilization?

What do you mean "pillar of Western Civilization"?????

umm, the bible and christianity was one of the main forces in medieval europe, cant really study medieval europe without christianity, but when it comes to a class that teaches religion, why not, evolution is all ready being tought, kids are forced to learn evolution, bible class or any other religion class could just not be taken by choice of the student, unlike evolution and if you dont get enough people to sign up for the religion class, then dont have it.

wait, im just turing this into a evolution/creation flame war arnt i?

 

[microphobia]

absolutely not, whether its an elective/optional etc. is irrelevant. doing this pushes the envelope too much, to the point where people of other religions/cultures will have many legitamite complaints. im catholic and a very tolerant person and can easily look at this issue from the other side and know that i would have issues with it. anyhow, like many have said this issue should be looked into no further than the seperation of state and religion.

 

[BladeWalker]

If I remember correctly, the last time prayer was allowed in public schools the Catholic parents were the ones who complained about it to the government. They thought in school prayers had too much Protestant/Methodist bias. So the simplest solution was to remove it altogether to prevent conflicts. This issue will raise again if you permit Bible studies in school.

 

[Joker81]

Only if they can have the Koran Studies/ Any other Religious book studies. And no one religion is thought more then others.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Why not just a general "Religion Studies" class?

- M4H

 

[QueHuong]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Why not just a general "Religion Studies" class?

- M4H

If anything, it would be the Christians who would be whining the most about it, citing that the teaching of Buddhism (although not really a religion), Hinduism, Jedi () is poisoning the minds of their easily impressionable children.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: MindStorm

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Why not just a general "Religion Studies" class?

- M4H

If anything, it would be the Christians who would be whining the most about it, citing that the teaching of SATAN is poisoning the minds of their easily impressionable children.

Edited to clarify the Christian perspective.

- M4H

 

[Supertastic Fool]

Originally posted by: BladeWalker
No. Separation of church and state.

Do you know where seperation of church and state came from and why it is said? It came from a letter written to the Danbury Association in 1801 which stated that the state should be kept out of the church to prevent a state religion like england.

People always take little quotes out of things and bend them and shape them so that they mean something else.

You should find out where something comes from before you try to quote it.

 

[Extrarius]

Definitely. I would have loved to have a class about different religions in HS. Of course I can take them now in college, but who wants to pay llots of money for classes that don't count?

As long as it isn't a 'taught by cristians for christians' type class and actually examines various religions (and their books, rituals etc) objectively, I would have enjoyed it immensely. I also think a lot of people need such a class because they stereotype based on the very little news on TV etc about other religions and end up being closed minded because they aren't educated about different viewpoints.

 

[Falloutboy]

I'd be all for a class that studies various religions. it would help alot of people understand different cultures, I would of for sure taken the class in highschool

 

[magomago]

In my school we had a "comparative religions" class where we looked Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism (because they were the "big 5" according to my teacher)


I don't see anything wrong with that...but actually having a "Bible Studies" class, haha no


Oh- and for the record, even though I'm not buddhist - that was the best of them all because we gotta take an all day field trip up to a Zen Center isolated in the mountains. It was pretty cool

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: bigdog1218

Originally posted by: MAME
yes if they include all 999 other religions

This argument is so useless why even bother posting it, do you learn every language when you go to school? Every piece of history? Every book in English? Or just the most influential ones, the bible is the most printed book ever, no one said anything about learning about religion.

that's because languages aren't offensive you retard

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: magomago
In my school we had a "comparative religions" class where we looked Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism (because they were the "big 5" according to my teacher)


I don't see anything wrong with that...but actually having a "Bible Studies" class, haha no


Oh- and for the record, even though I'm not buddhist - that was the best of them all because we gotta take an all day field trip up to a Zen Center isolated in the mountains. It was pretty cool

Cool, that would be fun. But, do they talk about the monks who have sex with boys?

 

[przero]

"The US does not have an official religion nor is it supposed to promote one religion over another"

Where did that idea come from?

 

[XZeroII]

I don't see a problem with it. If a community decides to put it in there, then why should they not be able to? Those people pay their taxes and if they decide that some of those taxes should go toward teaching kids about the bible, then fine.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

People are confusing a "bible study" with the study of the Bible academically.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
I don't see a problem with it. If a community decides to put it in there, then why should they not be able to? Those people pay their taxes and if they decide that some of those taxes should go toward teaching kids about the bible, then fine.

sure, as long as its a unanimous vote and the school receives no funding from any source other than those specific people.