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[Pocatello]

I like to shoot with CCI standand velocity .22 rounds. Decent accuracy and about $30 per 500.

 

[jpeyton]

I like to shoot with CCI standand velocity .22 rounds. Decent accuracy and about $30 per 500.

That's expensive for plinking ammo. I can get bricks of Federal or Remington 36gr .22LR copper plated hollow points for $15.

 

[Tiamat]

That's expensive for plinking ammo. I can get bricks of Federal or Remington 36gr .22LR copper plated hollow points for $15.

Relatively true, although I have found some 22s are picky about the ammo, eg autos. my 10/22 and 22/45 didn't like Winchester superx and still had some issues with Remington...

So far, federal automatch has been better with only 2ftf and 4 fte in 2000+

 

[IGemini]

I've shot .45 ACP, .45 colt, .40, 9mm, 380, 38 special, 357, .223/5.56, 30.06, .243, .270, .45-70, .25 acp, 7.62x39, .270 weatherby mag, 7.62x54R, .303 British, .30 carbine, 12 gauge, and 16 gauge, and possibly a few others I've missed.

I still love shooting the .22 LR A LOT. I have at least 10 firearms in .22, thats how fun that cartridge is to shoot. I find it very relaxing as well. You don't have the loudness or recoil of other calibers. It's just a joy to shoot and doesn't break the bank like other calibers can/do.

Different strokes. The last time I fired 300+ rounds of .22LR, I walked away feeling anything but satisfied. It doesn't break the bank, but it's not a particularly challenging round to shoot. Even though I can think of 4-5 other .22 rifles or pistols I'd get, I'm not sold on the "fun" factor quite as much. I simply recognize it as a necessity by economy.

 

[TallBill]

Different strokes. The last time I fired 300+ rounds of .22LR, I walked away feeling anything but satisfied. It doesn't break the bank, but it's not a particularly challenging round to shoot. Even though I can think of 4-5 other .22 rifles or pistols I'd get, I'm not sold on the "fun" factor quite as much. I simply recognize it as a necessity by economy.

I'm with you. The only reason that I keep my scoped savage 22 is to teach new shooters. Pretty much zero interest in shooting it myself when I have so many other fun rifles.

 

[BladeVenom]

Different strokes. The last time I fired 300+ rounds of .22LR, I walked away feeling anything but satisfied. It doesn't break the bank, but it's not a particularly challenging round to shoot.

Higher powered rifles are less of a challenge with their flatter trajectory.

I like pistols over rifles for the challenge.

 

[ManBearPig]

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[jpeyton]

I think Im not cleaning the barrel correctly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQJ-Gka4FyQ

 

[Phanuel]

Or just wait until you've put 1k+ rounds through it before you worry about cleaning it. Lube it regularly, sure, but cleaning is usually a waste of time unless you've got obviously detrimental carbon build up affecting functionality.

 

[CurseTheSky]

Or just wait until you've put 1k+ rounds through it before you worry about cleaning it. Lube it regularly, sure, but cleaning is usually a waste of time unless you've got obviously detrimental carbon build up affecting functionality.

That really, REALLY depends on the gun. I have several that will run flawlessly for hundreds of rounds without a cleaning, and some that will start jamming. My SR22 is extremely picky about being cleaned regularly or it will start to have FTFs (regardless of ammo). My Colt 1911 will run dirty as sin, though.

I agree with the notion that many people clean too often, though. If you depend on a particular firearm for protection or otherwise absolutely need it to function flawlessly, then by all means clean it after every shooting session. Otherwise I'd just clean every several hundred rounds, or after firing anything particularly dirty or corrosive, or if the gun has been sitting for a while.

 

[OverVolt]

I find cleaning causes more jams. On glocks anyway. If its too clean, the slide closes back too fast and causes stovepipes with weak range ammo.

It just depends how firm the slide is on your gun. I can definitely see how an unlubed .22lr will start jamming, but if you are firing weak ammo out of a .40S&W or something with a lightweight slide, and strong spring its going to FTE.

I've noticed FTF is purely an ammo/magazine/limpwristing problem most of the time.

I would trust a semi-dirty gun that just fired 100-200 rounds flawlessly of the same ammo more than a just cleaned gun.

 

[TallBill]

Yeah, now that i think about it, youre right...i did flinch a decent amount with the .40. I think the problem is that the .22 seems so much punier and easy to shoot. Also, the trigger was a bit different and it kinda fucked with me when I switched back and forth.

I have a beautiful drill to help with flinching. It requires a 2nd party who will either load a single round into the firearm or leave it unloaded. The shooter then treats the firearm as loaded and makes a single shot. For the times that the firearm is unloaded you'll really see just how much you are flinching. I spend about 15 minutes doing this with new shooters and its amazing how much they improve. Usually do this drill on their 3rd time to the range. First time is safety/introduction, 2nd is building comfort and when they usually notice themselves flinching a ton.

As far as what firearm to buy, I'd recommend a Glock 17 or 19, a Sig p226 (9mm), or a s&w 686 which you could fire .38 spl or. 357 mag.

 

[Phanuel]

I have a beautiful drill to help with flinching. It requires a 2nd party who will either load a single round into the firearm or leave it unloaded. The shooter then treats the firearm as loaded and makes a single shot. For the times that the firearm is unloaded you'll really see just how much you are flinching. I spend about 15 minutes doing this with new shooters and its amazing how much they improve. Usually do this drill on their 3rd time to the range. First time is safety/introduction, 2nd is building comfort and when they usually notice themselves flinching a ton.

As far as what firearm to buy, I'd recommend a Glock 17 or 19, a Sig p226 (9mm), or a s&w 686 which you could fire .38 spl or. 357 mag.

You can try and do the ball or dummy drill by yourself with some snap caps and just closing your eyes while loading the magazine after randomly selecting live vs dummy rounds. But yeah, this is a huge skill identifier/improver.

Along with dry firing at home/before loading the gun at the range/between reloads/end of the range trip. Dry firing is extremely important and helpful for building correct shot anticipation, or lack of.

 

[ManBearPig]

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[Farmer]

Do you guys know if all 15-22s come with muzzle brakes?

It looks like some do and some don't

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...4_750001_750051_757786_-1_757784_757784_image

They're also flashhiders, not brakes. I cannot imagine the need for a brake on a 22, other than to annoy the people shooting next to you.

Unless you're worried about ammo cost, why not a proper AR instead of a 15-22?

 

[ManBearPig]

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[boomhower]

I really want to add a 15-22. Great gun for less money than a quality .22 upper.

 

[velillen]

Speaking of 22's

Federal 22lr bulk ammo for .032 cents per a round. Free shipping too. No Sales tax for me so makes it a damn nice deal. 10 bricks of 525 for 5250 total rounds.

https://www.shopdunns.com/products/2632/federal_745_22lr_36gr_copper_plated_case/


Thought id point it out to anyone needing some 22. It works fine in both my sig 522 and my sig mosquito and for cheap ammo its some of the cheapest ya can get.

 

[Jeeebus]

Speaking of 22's

Federal 22lr bulk ammo for .032 cents per a round. Free shipping too. No Sales tax for me so makes it a damn nice deal. 10 bricks of 525 for 5250 total rounds.

https://www.shopdunns.com/products/2632/federal_745_22lr_36gr_copper_plated_case/


Thought id point it out to anyone needing some 22. It works fine in both my sig 522 and my sig mosquito and for cheap ammo its some of the cheapest ya can get.

I bought from Dunns last time they had it at this price. Great ammo. Not a single failure on my MP5 .22. Tons of fun without making a dent in your pocket.

 

[velillen]

I bought from Dunns last time they had it at this price. Great ammo. Not a single failure on my MP5 .22. Tons of fun without making a dent in your pocket.

i bought it last time they did too. Then bought more of it from cabelas which i regretted (though got it with ammo cans too) but got more from dunns this time. Im set for a long time now on 22

 

[RampantAndroid]

Anyone have experience with Yankee Hill Machine suppressors? I've got the NFA itch, and I want a single can to cover my rifles - as far as I know, the YHM 30 caliber titanium QD can works with all their QD attachments, and so it would work with my AR and my M1A.

I guess what I'm wondering is - can anyone speak to how friendly their customer service is? Are they thorough? Are they well built? How do they stack against AAC, Gemtech and Surefire?

Personally, Surefire seems insanely overpriced, and they JUST changed their mounts. AAC seems anything but professional, and a friend's dealings with them were less than inspiring.

Finally, my EBR (evil black rifle):
Overmolded grip added (feels AWESOME)
ACOG, TA31RCO-M150 (the Army version, red chevron, with left and right tick marks for calling out targets) added and zeroed at 25, need to zero at 100 now.

Even with the ACOG on it, this gun is INSANELY light.

Still needed: ambi swivel mount on the buffer tube for a sling
TLR2 flashlight
Suppressor and QD flash hider for it

 

[velillen]

Im not expert but out of the four you listed gemtech is the cheapest and is meh, Surefire is the most expensive and usually just a db or two quieter and slightly lighter...not worth it IMO. The AAC and YHM are both sort of middle of the road. ACC's 762-SDN-6 is a popular 30 cal can and you see it on a lot of 300blk and other rifles. YHM also seem to be recommended though people complain of their weight.

Check out silencertalk.com You can find tons of info there.

and do share whatever you find....ive got a itch for a can to use on my 223/556, 308, and 300 blackout

 

[RampantAndroid]

Im not expert but out of the four you listed gemtech is the cheapest and is meh, Surefire is the most expensive and usually just a db or two quieter and slightly lighter...not worth it IMO. The AAC and YHM are both sort of middle of the road. ACC's 762-SDN-6 is a popular 30 cal can and you see it on a lot of 300blk and other rifles. YHM also seem to be recommended though people complain of their weight.

Check out silencertalk.com You can find tons of info there.

Yeah, I've been poking around there. The weight of the stainless steel cans is certainly high, however the titanium can is 15oz, to the 20oz of the AAC 30 cal can. As for price, I can find the stainless can for 650, and the titanium can for 850. Add in the $200 tax stamp, and I'm pretty happy in terms of the overall cost, given outdoor shooting without protection suddenly becomes feasible, and indoor shooting at the range I go to which now has baffles isn't as deafening with protection.

On an aside: I hate those baffles. They might catch bullets better, but anything above .308win is no longer allowed because it'll go through steel - the old back could handle a .50 cal round. More than that, it reflect sound back at you. My 44magnum used to just be loud, now it sounds like an artillery piece firing. 308 sounds like the end of the world is happening. (this is at Wades in Bellevue.)

 

[velillen]

Yeah, I've been poking around there. The weight of the stainless steel cans is certainly high, however the titanium can is 15oz, to the 20oz of the AAC 30 cal can. As for price, I can find the stainless can for 650, and the titanium can for 850. Add in the $200 tax stamp, and I'm pretty happy in terms of the overall cost, given outdoor shooting without protection suddenly becomes feasible, and indoor shooting at the range I go to which now has baffles isn't as deafening with protection.

On an aside: I hate those baffles. They might catch bullets better, but anything above .308win is no longer allowed because it'll go through steel - the old back could handle a .50 cal round. More than that, it reflect sound back at you. My 44magnum used to just be loud, now it sounds like an artillery piece firing. 308 sounds like the end of the world is happening. (this is at Wades in Bellevue.)

Hadnt heard that about Wades. I never shot in the AR side...just the pistol side since i wasnt a member (to far away for me). Do remember them always saying you could shoot 50s there but guess not anymore!

Yeah 850 isnt to bad...where you going to get it from? Ive got the itch for one that sure.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Hadnt heard that about Wades. I never shot in the AR side...just the pistol side since i wasnt a member (to far away for me). Do remember them always saying you could shoot 50s there but guess not anymore!

Yeah 850 isnt to bad...where you going to get it from? Ive got the itch for one that sure.

I'm going to look around some. No one near me has this can in stock, but I know Wade's does the paperwork for creating a trust for the suppressor. Going to also check Rainier arms and West Coast Armory, see if they can get them in and for what price...else I'll just do it online and have it sent here (need to find out what that procedure is, though.)

Wades USED to allow .50 BMG...but only if the range was empty. Too loud otherwise. Now a .308win going off sounds like a 50BMG firing, pretty much...and 308Win is the max caliber. They tried to keep my from taking my .30-06 Garand and 1903 in...had to reason with them that it was shooting the same bullet and are WWII era pressures no less (had the boxes marked as being meant for the Garand no less.)

They're hoping to finish the upstairs range soon, that'll extend to 70 yards or so, I gather.

Where in WA are you again? What range do you go to?