Fingolfin269
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What insight did you gain from this article? I assume you read it all the way through.
Well, the data is from a few months ago, prior to the release of the iP5, but indicates that Samsung alone sells more phones that Apple. So, when combined with HTC, Moto, LG and the other Android handset makers Android is selling MUCH faster than Apple.
I have no doubt that the release of the iP5 will close the gap somewhat for the next quarter but when you only have one new devise per year it's hard to compete against the competition that releases, in total, probably closer to 25 new phones per year.
What was it about the article that bothers you?
Brian
cronos
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This. Competition is nothing but a good thing for us customers. We ended up having more options, and manufacturers will be pressured to produce better things, faster.
Samsung is afraid to publish sales of the gs3 because they now fear apple suing them for every phone sold.
Even tho the gs3 looks nothing like the iPhone 5 Apple has added it to the lawsuit and will certainly ask for damages down the road.
I don't know if the pre sold rumors are true about the note 2 but the gs3 mini is a complete joke and it will sell now because of samsungs brand name now.
They are finally like apple and can release a cell with horrible specs and Joe the plubmer could care less and buy it right up.
Even with the gs3 marketing they are showing things you can do with the phone rather than pushing hardcore specs to people.
Like the iPhone 5 we don't even know the true clock speeds and the apple buyers could care less as long as the cell runs fast and does everything they need.
I have no doubt that the gs3 mini with outdated hardware will run just fine on jellybean because the os is finally fast enough to do the same things with less powerful hardware.
Samsung has some serious balls to come out with a 4in mini using the same exact screen size of the iPhone 5.its like they purposely did it to bust balls and to piss off apple even more.I would of made it a 4.3 to make it seem a little different but this phone is made to go right after the iPhone 5 size and try to steal sales from them.look how fast Samsung responded to the 4in market,they will have a mini s3 out in 2 weeks and will basically dominate going from a 4in to a 5.5 with the note 2.if the pe sales are true for the 5.5 in cell then people do really want bigger cells.heck the PR sales of the note 2 are already more than all the iPhone 5s sold.apple needs to come out with a 4.5 in iPhone stat to compete in the bigger screen market.I don't know why they stick to one size they need more choices out there
Even tho the gs3 looks nothing like the iPhone 5 Apple has added it to the lawsuit and will certainly ask for damages down the road.
I don't know if the pre sold rumors are true about the note 2 but the gs3 mini is a complete joke and it will sell now because of samsungs brand name now.
They are finally like apple and can release a cell with horrible specs and Joe the plubmer could care less and buy it right up.
Even with the gs3 marketing they are showing things you can do with the phone rather than pushing hardcore specs to people.
Like the iPhone 5 we don't even know the true clock speeds and the apple buyers could care less as long as the cell runs fast and does everything they need.
I have no doubt that the gs3 mini with outdated hardware will run just fine on jellybean because the os is finally fast enough to do the same things with less powerful hardware.
Samsung has some serious balls to come out with a 4in mini using the same exact screen size of the iPhone 5.its like they purposely did it to bust balls and to piss off apple even more.I would of made it a 4.3 to make it seem a little different but this phone is made to go right after the iPhone 5 size and try to steal sales from them.look how fast Samsung responded to the 4in market,they will have a mini s3 out in 2 weeks and will basically dominate going from a 4in to a 5.5 with the note 2.if the pe sales are true for the 5.5 in cell then people do really want bigger cells.heck the PR sales of the note 2 are already more than all the iPhone 5s sold.apple needs to come out with a 4.5 in iPhone stat to compete in the bigger screen market.I don't know why they stick to one size they need more choices out there
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We don't know the final sale numbers for the iPhone 5 yet. Thanks for your crystal ball prediction though.
The iPhone 5 sold 5M in 3 days and wait till the final worldwide sales numbers come in.
In any case, I'm not sure why people think sales equates to people wanting larger phones.
Consider that most of the phones Samsung, HTC, LG and Motorolla sell are 4.3 inches or larger and that Android outsells Apple by a wide margin and it's not hard to conclude that most, though not all, want larger phones. The numbers speak even if some refuse to listen...
It is likely that Apple will close the gap somewhat for a quarter or so but Android is much bigger in volume, not just phone size...
Brian
Why did all the tablets get dual core processors months before any phones did? Why can't intel just toss an ivy bridge CPU into a phone?
They most certainly are thermally constrained, in that the thermal limitations determine the types of processors that are even considered.
This shouldn't be under debate, it's simple physics. Same energy consumption in a smaller package = hotter. Given most of the example phones, the "small" phone is really only 3-5% smaller, so the difference is insignificant and maybe not even speed bin worthy, but that doesn't change the laws of physics.
If you can build a given phone a given size with given specs, making the exact same thing smaller will give you a hotter device.
Look at Desktop CPU, look at large laptop mobile CPU, look at ultrabook CPU, look at netbook CPU, compare to high end tablet CPU, and finally look at tiny phone processors. Smaller devices support slower CPU, things work that way for a reason, it isn't arbitrary.
Can't it do both? I'm fairly certain a screen dissipates heat, unless it's coated with some sort of inward reflective heat coating that causes it to hold all heat inside the phone. Nope, it is not.
Diagonally 4" doesn't mean it's the exact same screen size. I'm pretty sure the Galaxy S3 mini and iPhone 5 screen size is different if you measure them by length and width.
It's like you are saying that a 23" full screen monitor has the exact same screen size as a 23" widescreen monitor...
And you somehow think Samsung is not selling more for final numbers also?I'm going from figures posted and since the iPhone 5 launch sales have increased for the gs3 week to week and not slowed down and just a heads up I think you brought up what other android phone sells as much as a single iPhone and the gs3 is the first single android phone by its self that can beat out apple in sales.
All the apple supporters keep saying apple is going up against a hundred different androids and is the reason that android has a bigger market share but have nothing to say when one single android phone is doing better than the iPhone 5.
Maybe just maybe people want a bigger phone?
PS gs3 pre sold 10 million while the iPhone 5 still hasn't passed 10 million yet
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The only thing that bothers me about trying to talk about sales numbers and market shares is that Google and Apple are playing two different games. I think Apple would be perfectly happy with 10% of the mobile market as long as they made they amount of money they're making now.
Nope, you fail the logic to make the comparison. Do you have proof that Android sells more devices overall because of screen sizes? I doubt that. People buy Android devices for many many other reasons and you can't separate that from screen size being the reason.
The iPhone outsells any single device, does that mean people want smaller screens?
Samsung sold 20M GS3s in 100 days. Apple sold 5M already in 3 days. You can make the claims/predictions you're making, but you're saying it as if its fact.
People want big phones, people want smaller phones. I don't understand how sales says one way or the other.
akugami
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Just curious which report you're looking at for those screen size sales numbers.
Most sales are done the first week of launch and gs3 sales are climbing those first numbers were without USA sales and only UK sales as the last I read the gs3 is at 28millon worldwide.after the iPhone launch sales picked up from the people that were waiting to see official specs and screen size of the iPhone 5.
Apple sold 5m is 3 days then it took another 3 weeks to sell 4 million more
God you're pathetic...
As I pointed out before, the various makers of Android phones introduce at least 25 new phones per year, Apple 1.
The data I referenced (I didn't pull it out of my *ss) shows that Samsung had total sales nearly double Apple for the second quarter.
Samsung is not the only one making Android phones -- Apple IS the only one making Apple phones.
Now I don't have an accurate break-down on the screen sizes of Android phones but by my observation very few of them by volume are less than 4.3 inches -- do you have data to counter this -- if so lets see it...
The constant reference to Apple selling more of a single device is just a game being played to deny reality -- Android outsells Apple big time. Let me repeat that...
ANDROID OUTSELLS APPLE BIG TIME!
Screen size alone is NOT the only reason Android is outselling Apple and un-layering the precise set of reasons is likely impossible, but kidding yourself into believing that Apple is not losing out because they fail to offer a fuller product line won't change that fact...
Brian
Link?
I find this hard to believe since SGS III just started outselling iPhone 4S a month before iPhone 5 came out.
I'm sure Android sells more devices with 4"+ screens because everything under 4" sucks donkey testicles. It's either you get a shit phone with a smaller screen or you get a better phone with a larger screen. Aren't you thankful?
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Link? to back up all of your sales numbers?
Calm down buddy. I'm not saying you're wrong about Android selling more, I'm saying your logic is.
Exactly
Exactly what is you data indicating my observation that Android sells mostly 4.3 inch and larger is wrong? I'd ballpark 80% as the percentage of Android phones that are 4.3 inches or larger and that would mean there are more phones being sold that are 4.3 inches or larger then there are smaller than 4.3 inches. If my logic is wrong where's your data to back up your logic?
Brian
Larger screen phones aren't just larger, they are better in almost every conceivable way. I haven't even seen an Android device under 4" in like 2 years lol
That people buy smartphones for many reasons.
There are a lot of factors that you haven't taken into account.
Or simply samsung is giving consumers what they want. Variety. Its not copying apple its demand and supply. Samsung is learning from others mistakes and thier own very well. Putting 3 phone size to consumers is a great idea. its not to much were it would hurt sales and not too little. Apple would benefit majorally if they gave consumers another choice or 2 for phone size.
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