Win 10 Install and Upgrade-Preview Future Release 1703. Aka Creators Edition.

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Muse

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Using your build in method works many times but sometime it does not work because the BackUp is done from within a live Acting System/OS

The SAFEST way is to do an independent image from a Boot DVD.

What? Because under this condition the System/OS hard drive is passive during the Imaging, thus the image is the Most accurate.



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I could maybe do this with Acronis TI WD Edition, but I have done it without failures by running Acronis within Windows, however I do a reboot before and have nothing open before making my image.
Third machine is my gaming rig in my sig. Everything went well but no sound. Turns out that DTS Connect is borked, even after I upgraded to the latest drivers on Asus' website. So, got to test the reversion process, which at least worked smoothly and reverted back to Win 8.1.
There's a "reversion process?" I thought the m.o. was to image your previous system and restore it to revert. There's a built in reversion process? Which would be better, I'd be inclined to restore an image.

Question: One of my systems (Thinkpad T61) is running Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit. Can I upgrade that to Win10 32bit?
 
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Muse

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Why would you want to go from 64 bit to 32 bit? That makes no sense.
I have at least one app I use frequently that won't run on 64bit. It's the reason I installed 32bit Win7 on this, my most-used machine at this time.

Can you give me a reason why I'd want to run 64bit Win10 on that other machine? Yes, I could use that app on a different machine, my current workaround...
 
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Hey, guys. I was also thinking to upgrade to Win 10. There is so much talk about privacy issues these days. Recently I used to get annoying adware and PUPs that always tended to change my default search engine provider - and it just drove me crazy! Some time later I visited a friend of mine and while using his PC, discovered Emsisoft Internet Security and Emsisoft Emergency Kit. Wow, how I lived without this tool before. Can you imagine, it's free, fully portable (which is especially helpful for my old PC with lack of memory) and it specializes in removing PUPs and all malware. Don't hesitate and visit Emsisoft blog for further information on cyber security. I found the info very useful and easy to understand even for dummies. Their anti-virus program is unobtrusive, efficient and doesn't slow down your PC (that is really important).
 
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My windows 7 reg somehow got corrupted beyond repair. I wiped the drive, installed 7 again, did no/zero updates, installed Windows X and the cd key provided with the Windows 7 Pro purchase didn't work. Any one else have this happen?
 

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Did you perform an in place upgrade from an activated 7 install first? If not it will never work until MS records an in place upgrade from an authorized OS to 10. After this you can clean install 10 on that hardware but not before.
 
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Did you perform an in place upgrade from an activated 7 install first? If not it will never work until MS records an in place upgrade from an authorized OS to 10. After this you can clean install 10 on that hardware but not before.

Yeah. Had to activate the Win7 key before the upgrade would proceed.

Now to figure out the Windows Live email system with Windows X

Thanks :)
 

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The built in mail is strange and I don't like the reading window arrangement, however I use outlook so I'm not impacted by it. You could use a 3rd party mail app like Mozilla which works well.
 
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Windows Live Mail works with Windows X, you have to enable .net 3.5 under Programs and Features and download the required files.
 

Aristotelian

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Hey guys I'm wondering if someone can help me out a bit. I upgraded to windows 10 professional 64 bit on a pc that I built in 2011 or so (2600k; 8gb ram; Crucial C300 drives - not in raid) that I will soon be upgrading. I'll be buying a new hdisk, a new gpu, and maybe upgrade the ram.

Is there a way for me to download windows 10 professional onto a disk - and use it to install windows on the new hdisk I buy? How would I go about knowing my current windows key? I bought it from the Microsoft store and it upgraded my windows 7 without even an e-mail receipt of the purchase, so I'm not sure how to go about doing a clean install.
 

Ketchup

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Hey guys I'm wondering if someone can help me out a bit. I upgraded to windows 10 professional 64 bit on a pc that I built in 2011 or so (2600k; 8gb ram; Crucial C300 drives - not in raid) that I will soon be upgrading. I'll be buying a new hdisk, a new gpu, and maybe upgrade the ram.

Is there a way for me to download windows 10 professional onto a disk - and use it to install windows on the new hdisk I buy? How would I go about knowing my current windows key? I bought it from the Microsoft store and it upgraded my windows 7 without even an e-mail receipt of the purchase, so I'm not sure how to go about doing a clean install.

You can download Windows 10 and put it on a flash drive or burn it to a DVD
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

If it an OEM copy, you can't keep your license with the hardware change, so you will need to buy a new copy. If it is retail, you shouldn't have a problem with the install. An activated upgrade to Windows 10 doesn't rely on a key, so when the installer gives you prompts for a key, just use the skip option.
 

Aristotelian

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You can download Windows 10 and put it on a flash drive or burn it to a DVD
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

If it an OEM copy, you can't keep your license with the hardware change, so you will need to buy a new copy. If it is retail, you shouldn't have a problem with the install. An activated upgrade to Windows 10 doesn't rely on a key, so when the installer gives you prompts for a key, just use the skip option.

Thanks a lot for the quick response, but I still don't understand one thing. I can download Windows 10 professional and put it on a flash drive. But I will be installing it on a brand new hard drive. How does Microsoft know that I bought this and not ask for a product key? I'm worried that I'd format this drive, try to install windows 10 on a new drive, and be asked for a product key that I don't have. Is the product tied to a hardware configuration?
 

Ketchup

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Thanks a lot for the quick response, but I still don't understand one thing. I can download Windows 10 professional and put it on a flash drive. But I will be installing it on a brand new hard drive. How does Microsoft know that I bought this and not ask for a product key? I'm worried that I'd format this drive, try to install windows 10 on a new drive, and be asked for a product key that I don't have. Is the product tied to a hardware configuration?

MS keeps your key and a footprint of your computer on their servers, not on your hard drive.
 

CZroe

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Thanks a lot for the quick response, but I still don't understand one thing. I can download Windows 10 professional and put it on a flash drive. But I will be installing it on a brand new hard drive. How does Microsoft know that I bought this and not ask for a product key? I'm worried that I'd format this drive, try to install windows 10 on a new drive, and be asked for a product key that I don't have. Is the product tied to a hardware configuration?
Windows Product Activation. WPA was a big deal in the year 2000. If you tried to install the same license on another system it would detect it and not allow you to activate automatically (calling Microsoft sometimes works). Basically, as long as the system would still activate with the same key from your previous OS, it will let you reinstall Windows 10 without a key.
 

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Is the product tied to a hardware configuration?

Yes it is tied to your hardware and as long as you upgrade the previous os with that hardware you can clean install onto it anytime with 10. Now if you go changing hardware that is a different story and I cannot comment on what the end result will be as I've not tried it.
 

us3rnotfound

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I hate how MS did their product activation. I bought and installed Windows 10 Pro direct from MS for $200 for an older PC, goofed on a RAID driver and did a system restore, now it's restored back to pre activation. Well I should just be able to enter the Product Key I just paid for...but wait, no! There wasn't one provided? WTF? I must be missing something here.

EDIT: Quickly reformatted and reinstalled Windows 10, it automatically activated, cool. But when I do go to overhaul this rig, can I take this license to that? I'm sure things will hit the fan then, I'll have to see.
 
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Ketchup

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If it's a retail version, you should be able to move it. But as we know, should and can are two different things.
 

Spjut

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Does anyone know if changing from Legacy BIOS to UEFI can make the Windows 10 license invalid?
 

Puffnstuff

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Does anyone know if changing from Legacy BIOS to UEFI can make the Windows 10 license invalid?
When I did it on 8.1 I didn't have an issue with activation so the same should be true for 10. This morning I did a clean install of 10 on my ssd and once again no key was required after I skipped the entry screens and it activated automatically.
 

MtnMan

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M$ fucking lied to me again. Told me that everything was just peach keen to upgrade, and that my system was completely compatible with W10.

They lied, my fucking bluetooth was not compatible, and now I don't have my bluetooth earbuds to listen to.

Fuck you M$