Win 10 Install and Upgrade-Preview Future Release 1703. Aka Creators Edition.

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Ketchup

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It broke my computer. My system is locked in an endless loop, it won't boot from anything, flash drive or disk. I installed Win 10 fine, then after a few days use I had to restart my PC, and it entered an repeating blue screen loop "your pc has encountered an error and needs to restart" cache error. It won't even get to the repair/recovery anymore.

I am irritated because I've tried everything I can think of. No Win 10 for me.

If your computer is detecting your hard drive, and the error you listed indicates that this is probably the case, Puffnstuff has given you to best way to fix this issue.
 

nOOky

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Have you tried booting off the dvd and using the repair utility on it?

Yea. I reset the bios to defaults and unhooked everything but the mouse and keyboard, and just used one memory stick and it went. My fault, but I'm still not messing with it for a while again until Service Pack 1
 

Puffnstuff

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10 won't have sp's like the previous os's because of the continuous updates. You should try again and have the latest drivers available before you do it to make things easier. Don't add any 3rd party software until after you've installed 10 especially if you're trying to do an in place upgrade.
 

JETninja

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Ok, only issue on my laptop was I had to install the "Take Ownership" reg hack and redo security settings on all my folders so I could save files and pics, it would not let me do it before I did that.

Just did my desk top today, installed a new Mushkin 250GB SSD and a EVGA SSC 970, installed a clean Win7 on the SSD, updated it, activated it, then installed Win 10. Man, my first SSD and loving the speed! So far everything has been sweet. Just need to get all my games installed....and signed up for Office 365 for the entire family. (Amazon deal)
 

Viper GTS

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Is there some new setting that is over-riding the normal 'turn off display after' setting? I have two desktops that are both not turning off their displays after upgrades to 10. One was upgraded from 8.1, one from 7. Both worked fine previously.

Relatively minor annoyance overall but I would really prefer that to work.

Viper GTS
 

Ichinisan

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Is there some new setting that is over-riding the normal 'turn off display after' setting? I have two desktops that are both not turning off their displays after upgrades to 10. One was upgraded from 8.1, one from 7. Both worked fine previously.

Relatively minor annoyance overall but I would really prefer that to work.

Viper GTS

Maybe you should set it to a different power profile (like "Power Saver" or "Balanced"), then change it back to your preferred profile...?

If I was using a custom power profile, I would delete and re-create another one based on one of the default profiles.
 

nOOky

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If your computer is detecting your hard drive, and the error you listed indicates that this is probably the case, Puffnstuff has given you to best way to fix this issue.

For the record that didn't work, of course I tried that.

I have progressed to the point where I got 10 loaded, but can't do a clean install with the startup disk like I wanted.
 

Ketchup

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Maybe you should set it to a different power profile (like "Power Saver" or "Balanced"), then change it back to your preferred profile...?

If I was using a custom power profile, I would delete and re-create another one based on one of the default profiles.

Agreed. I wouldn't expect Windows 10 to carry over my profile from 7. Maybe I should have, but I didn't.
 

us3rnotfound

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Pro tip: When using the Media Creation Tool, Select your language first, then fill in the following 2 dropdowns for your edition of Windows and architecture. When you do the latter 2 first, then language, it will reset to Windows 10 HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(( Haha, so mad it's funny.
 

preslove

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Edit: Crisis averted. I restarted the laptop to go into the bios to see if there was a recovery option not coming up in windows, and I had to use the power button to read the flash of "F2 to go into bios." After finding no recovery in the bios, I got taken to windows repair because of the restarts. There was an option for resetting windows. Now it works :).
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Wife upgraded her windows 7 celeron mini laptop (no optical drive). None of the settings will open, including wifi. Opening up the setting app just gives "This app can't open. Your trial period for this app has expired. visit the windows store to purchase the full app."

WTF????!!!! How can you be so STUPID??? You put a trial period on SETTINGS?????

I googled the issue and see it's a known problem with no solution. Microsoft gives a troubleshooter that I download on my other computer and I transfer to the laptop. Doesn't find a thing. All the other instructions don't work.

There is no recovery partition on the laptop, no dvd windows 7 or drive to use even if I did have it. Sooo... this windows 10 upgrade has ruined this laptop to the point where I have to spend a LOT of time fixing it, if I can at all.

I am really angry right now.
 
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CakeMonster

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So the Win10 offer lasts 1 year from when you accept it? In that case, I'll probably wait until the latest possible sign up date since I prefer Win7 as of now. Can anyone confirm if that is the case?

I know I will have to upgrade some time because of DX12 and other stuff, but I prefer to wait since its still not mature.
 

Puffnstuff

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Well you could upgrade and activate 10 and if you don't like it then roll back. Your hardware ID will be registered and you can do a clean install later without issue or worrying about entering the software key.
 

SparkyJJO

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So the Win10 offer lasts 1 year from when you accept it? In that case, I'll probably wait until the latest possible sign up date since I prefer Win7 as of now. Can anyone confirm if that is the case?

I know I will have to upgrade some time because of DX12 and other stuff, but I prefer to wait since its still not mature.

Yeah, you have until next July.
 

SparkyJJO

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Thanks! Whenever I go for it I want the full year from that date. So I'll just hang on for now.

You have until next July to actually get the upgrade for free, but once you have the upgrade you have it. It won't expire after a year of use or anything.
 

Killrose

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I did the in place install on a Win7 home premium machine and now its totally screwed up. Slow to boot up, apps load slow or not at all. I loose internet contantly. Worked just fine untill the upgrade to 10. Now it hangs forever. I dont know if I can repair the install or am I going to have to FDISK/FORMAT and go back to Win7 or some sort of fresh install of Win7/Win10

Maybe I should call MS and see if they can do anything to help. Wonder what that will cost me.
 

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You can always use the roll back feature and upgrade again after disabling all 3rd party applications.
 

RampantAndroid

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I did the in place install on a Win7 home premium machine and now its totally screwed up. Slow to boot up, apps load slow or not at all. I loose internet contantly. Worked just fine untill the upgrade to 10. Now it hangs forever. I dont know if I can repair the install or am I going to have to FDISK/FORMAT and go back to Win7 or some sort of fresh install of Win7/Win10

Maybe I should call MS and see if they can do anything to help. Wonder what that will cost me.

The best solution there, if you want to remain in Windows 10, is to do a reset of Windows. You can do it such that you keep your personal files. It sounds like something was either corrupted, or drivers were missing.
 

nOOky

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So I have been using it for about 7 days now, not really long enough to form an opinion.

My initial install woes have been fixed. I bought a new SSD (Samsung 850 Pro 256), cloned my Windows 8.1 SSD to that, then upgraded to Windows 10. I want to perform a "clean" install on it this weekend just to see how it goes because I'm a tinkerer.

All my previous programs and apps work fine, even Classic Shell etc. I have not dug into anything too deeply, just played a few games and normal web browsing etc. I was able to customize everything the way I like it so far, and AMD drivers seem to work fine etc.

The Edge browser is fast, just different, I like the simplicity of it.
 

Chaosblade02

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Windows 10 didn't work right when I upgraded from windows 7 64 bit, but I understand that my issues aren't happening to the majority of people who do upgrade.

If Windows 10 is running like garbage (it shouldn't if its working correctly) then you're better off rolling back, or backing up your data, and doing a clean install of 10. It only took me 2 1/2 - 3 hours to do a fresh install and be close to what I was prior. If I had a faster transfer rate and internet I could have been done closer to 1 hour. That's way less of a headache than trying to troubleshoot compatibility or driver issues causing your upgraded OS to run like trash. These days I got about 1 hour of patience to troubleshoot a specific software issue, and much beyond that I'll drop what I'm doing and do a clean install.

If there are any apps/programs that add additional features a lot of people had or liked in previous versions of windows, but didn't included in 10, is there a list somewhere?

I had to manually modify the registry to set my wired connection to "metered" to keep updates from automatically downloading. And that's beyond ridiculous. It would be cool if there is some utility that fills these feature voids that were present in previous OSs. Windows 10 is easy to use for a novice, because the OS completely holds their hand every step of the way, but the problem I got is all users are treated like they're the lowest common denominator. I don't need MS to hold my hand and tell me when I need to get updates and install them. Even people who buy the pro version are treated this way. They should at least patch in features the more proficient users want without making them manually modify the registry or use the cmd prompt to make changes.

Edge browser is slower than firefox for me. Web pages load quicker than on edge. When I tried edge, pages would stop loading randomly and turn while, or only load half way, and I sometimes had to reload a page multiple times. No issues like that with firefox. Ironically IE did the same thing as edge. I'm not gonna waste my time troubleshooting a browser when another one works without issues.
 
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ron2368

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Could someone tell me if I ruined my ability to upgrade my hardware.

I wanted to test out win10 so I made a macrium copy of my #1 drive, took #1 out and then booted to the copy which I upgraded to win 10, went OK , used it for a day then decided to wait to upgrade. I took the copy HD ( which is now win 10) and put my win 8 drive back in.

If I decide to get a new MB/cpu in 6 months can I still finalize the upgrade or am I locked into my current hardware? thank you
 

Ketchup

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Microsoft says that Retail copies of Windows can be upgraded to 10 and retain the same privileges of Retail (transfer to other hardware). So you should be able to change hardware, but you may need a call to MS to activate it with the same hardware.

If it an OEM copy of Windows, it will deactivate with the upgrade, and MS most likely won't allow re-activation.

*Note that one of our members has already changed hardware on a Retail Version of 10 after having to replace a faulty part, and MS did not allow the activation. I don't know how much effort he put into it, so YMMV.