WIC program in jeopardy after shutdown

[Zaap]

There are millions of American fleeced daily by the commercials showing poor crying children.

If we follow all the insane economic policies of the left, we too can have streets full of starving children begging for food and beating each other up for change.

"Why can't we be more like the rest of the world??!!"

Not to worry, we'll get there.

 

[EagleKeeper]

You mean like if her husband was working on an oil platform and fell of and died?

Luckily Social Security Survivor benefits already cover that

http://www.ssa.gov/survivorplan/ifyou5.htm

So a divorce anytime during the marriage does what to help the children.
Primary provider is gone.

What if the Primary just ups and walks way.

I am not talking about the baby factory mothers; but a mother that has put time and effort into a marriage and then has nothing. Employment prospects have to revolve around school time, if all the kids are of school age.

Daycare for infants /toddlers is a waste of working for most that WIC is intended for.

$15/hr barely covers food/rent - daycare will cost $5/hr at the low end.
Any6thing being earned below that limit does not provide income to support oneself if daycare is needed

 

[Engineer]

So a divorce anytime during the marriage does what to help the children.
Primary provider is gone.

What if the Primary just ups and walks way.

I am not talking about the baby factory mothers; but a mother that has put time and effort into a marriage and then has nothing. Employment prospects have to revolve around school time, if all the kids are of school age.

Daycare for infants /toddlers is a waste of working for most that WIC is intended for.

$15/hr barely covers food/rent - daycare will cost $5/hr at the low end.
Any6thing being earned below that limit does not provide income to support oneself if daycare is needed

I said it before and I'll say it again....you're wasting your time.

 

[nehalem256]

So a divorce anytime during the marriage does what to help the children.
Primary provider is gone.

Well of course WIC would only help during the first 5 years. Heaven forbid we expect people to not get divorced right after having a child

Also should point out the 2/3 divorces are initiated by women.

What if the Primary just ups and walks way.

I am not talking about the baby factory mothers; but a mother that has put time and effort into a marriage and then has nothing. Employment prospects have to revolve around school time, if all the kids are of school age.

Daycare for infants /toddlers is a waste of working for most that WIC is intended for.

$15/hr barely covers food/rent - daycare will cost $5/hr at the low end.
Any6thing being earned below that limit does not provide income to support oneself if daycare is needed

And what percentage of people on WIC do you think this applies to?

I am sure you can cherry-pick some people that you could reasonably argue do deserve support. But I am sure the vast majority are in a bad situation due to their own predictably bad choices.

 

[Fern]

Food riots are getting closer,

http://news.yahoo.com/shutdown-puts-wic-food-program-for-vulnerable-mothers-at-risk-144731187.html



Not that I want anyone to go hungry, but hunger is a driving force to get people off their butts. I wonder how many parents who have children drawing WIC voted in the last election? Maybe this shutdown will piss enough of those parents off so they vote in the next election.

When 9 million people go hungry, something will have to give.

We're only in the 3rd day of the (partial) shutdown. Evidence suggests nothing dire is going to happen so soon:

http://www.examiner.com/article/how-will-a-government-shutdown-affect-kids

"States can probably shelter families receiving WIC from the effects of a shutdown for a short period, but it could be a real problem if it lasts more than a few days," policy analyst Elizabeth Lower-Basch of the Center for Law and Social Policy said in an email Saturday.

"States may have some funds available from infant formula rebates or other sources, including spend forward authority, to continue operations for a week or so, but States would likely be unable to sustain operations for a longer period," the USDA said in the shutdown contingency plan it announced Saturday. "Contingency funds will be available to help States -- but even this funding would not fully mitigate a shortfall for the entire month of October."

The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) will continue operations and eligible households will still receive monthly benefits for October. The authority to make October benefit payments comes from the Recovery Act, through which Congress provided “such sums as are necessary” to finance the SNAP benefit provided for in the Recovery Act.

In addition, about $2 billion in contingency funding will be available and could be used to support State Administrative activities essential to continue the program and issue and process benefits. These contingency funds were provided in the FY 2013 appropriation and do not expire until the end of FY 2014.

The Child Nutrition (CN) Programs, including School Lunch, School Breakfast, Child and Adult Care Feeding, Summer Food Service and Special Milk will continue operations into October. Meal providers are paid on a reimbursement basis 30 days after the end of the service month.

Limited carryover funding will be available during a lapse to support FY 2014 meal service. Once an appropriation is enacted, USDA expects additional resources will be available to reimburse October performance. In addition, most State agencies will continue to have fiscal year 2013 funds available for State Administrative Expenses (SAE). SAE funds are awarded to States for a two year grant period and they are permitted to carryover up to 20 percent of their allocation into the second year of the grant period.

I would also expect nongovernmental organization will be available to help.

Fern

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

So a divorce anytime during the marriage does what to help the children.
Primary provider is gone.

What if the Primary just ups and walks way.

I am not talking about the baby factory mothers; but a mother that has put time and effort into a marriage and then has nothing. Employment prospects have to revolve around school time, if all the kids are of school age.

Daycare for infants /toddlers is a waste of working for most that WIC is intended for.

$15/hr barely covers food/rent - daycare will cost $5/hr at the low end.
Any6thing being earned below that limit does not provide income to support oneself if daycare is needed

Having children is a choice. Also if the primary ups and walks away maybe baby momma should have chosen the father to her children better.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

If we follow all the insane economic policies of the left, we too can have streets full of starving children begging for food and beating each other up for change.

"Why can't we be more like the rest of the world??!!"

Not to worry, we'll get there.

Or something even crazier... People get hungry, find out their free money isn't coming this month and gasp... Get a job.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Food riots are getting closer,

http://news.yahoo.com/shutdown-puts-wic-food-program-for-vulnerable-mothers-at-risk-144731187.html



Not that I want anyone to go hungry, but hunger is a driving force to get people off their butts. I wonder how many parents who have children drawing WIC voted in the last election? Maybe this shutdown will piss enough of those parents off so they vote in the next election.

When 9 million people go hungry, something will have to give.

What you actually expect people to work for their food? What are you some kind of commie?

 

[Texashiker]

What you actually expect people to work for their food? What are you some kind of commie?

I expect people to either work for it, or grow their own.

Parents out of work and drawing "any" kind of state benefits, let them pick up trash around the court house.

 

[brycejones]

I never said that..

And now you're a lying idiot as well. rape shouldn't be any worse than a punch is pretty close to the exact quote.

At least own the dumb ass shit you've said you moron.

 

[dank69]

Or something even crazier... People get hungry, find out their free money isn't coming this month and gasp... Get a job.

Exactly. Micky Ds pays more than enough to cover the childcare costs while the deadbeat mother works.

 

[sourn]

What a bunch of fucking stupid ass morons.

I have paid a shit load in taxes, and have fell in hard times before. So, if I paid my taxes while I had a job (which would amount to quite a bit) I should feel bad for using government assistance..

If I didn't have to pay all that bullshit tax I would've had plenty of cushion to fall on.

Maybe some of these women also had decent lives, right up till the point she got pregnant and the guy decided to ditch her.

Shit happens and the government should look out for it's citizens specially since we pay taxes, but hey fuck that right. Lets just send everything including money to these other fucking countries and fuck our own citizens over that's perfectly acceptable.

O ya, lets keep paying the assholes that refuse to do their fucking jobs.

 

[Moonbeam]

Imagine the state of a nation that can produce so many emotionally dead people, so many folk who care so little for themselves that can't care for others.

 

[Matt1970]

Imagine the state of a nation that can produce so many emotionally dead people, so many folk who care so little for themselves that can't care for others.

You're like a bad psychology student.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Imagine the state of a nation that can produce so many emotionally dead people, so many folk who care so little for themselves that can't care for others.

Sorry I don't feel sorry for those that have children they can't provide for while they expect me and other hard working folks to pick up the tab. I'm out busting my hump to make bills meet. They can too. I have a felony conviction on my record. 80% of the jobs I could get are already an automatic no before they even look over my resume. Does that mean since it's hard for me to find a job I should just sit at home and expect others to provide for me and mine? Better yet how about you donate me some money since I have it so hard?

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Exactly. Micky Ds pays more than enough to cover the childcare costs while the deadbeat mother works.

So who forced them to have multiple children they couldn't provide for? Sorry if working at Mcd's is what you have to do to contribute to society then so be it. I'm sure the govt has a daycare program. Lemme guess, you think it'd be best if they sit at home with cable tv and contribute absolutely nothing to society and get paid for it.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I expect people to either work for it, or grow their own.

Parents out of work and drawing "any" kind of state benefits, let them pick up trash around the court house.

I agree. Also cleaning up parks, mowing highways, etc... Only benefits they get are what they've worked for. I bet they wouldn't be spending $100's of dollars a month on steak dinners if they were actually working for their food like the rest of us.

 

[nehalem256]

And now you're a lying idiot as well. rape shouldn't be any worse than a punch is pretty close to the exact quote.

At least own the dumb ass shit you've said you moron.

The problem is if you follow typical liberal logic on sex rape shouldn't be a big deal.

If sex isn't a big deal why is rape?

You still have not explained what the fantasy of "liberal sexual morality" is? Are saying that liberal sexual morality is not accepting of things like one-night-stands and f-buddies?

Rape is regarded as a "special" evil. If you see nothing wrong with screwing random people clearly you do not regard sex as special. So why should non-consensual sex be regarded as a special evil? Logically it should not.

Should it still be considered a crime? Yes. Much like non-consensually punching someone is still a crime. But typically rape is considered much worse
than merely punching someone.

I know what I said.

 

[dank69]

So who forced them to have multiple children they couldn't provide for? Sorry if working at Mcd's is what you have to do to contribute to society then so be it. I'm sure the govt has a daycare program. Lemme guess, you think it'd be best if they sit at home with cable tv and contribute absolutely nothing to society and get paid for it.

Why would you think that is my position? You agreed with everything I said. I'm pretty sure the government doesn't have a daycare program, but let me know if they do because I don't want my tax dollars going to that shit either. In fact, I'm just going to assume they do from now on because it makes for another good attack vector against these fucking hippy liberal pricks. But we might be getting a little off topic here so lets just stick with doing everything we can to make sure the kids of deadbeats don't get any of our hard earned money to use for food. There is a new iPhone out and I'm sick of my old iPhone 5. Are you with me, brother?

 

[Texashiker]

I bet they wouldn't be spending $100's of dollars a month on steak dinners if they were actually working for their food like the rest of us.

My wife and I both work full time jobs. A couple of years ago we would have steak sunday. Which means we would grill us a steak on sunday evening.

That was until the price of steak got so high.

Now we have steak sunday like once a month.

 

[Zaap]

I'm pretty sure the government doesn't have a daycare program...

Oh shit, let's not give them more bright ideas.

I'm sure that'll eventually be on the list, and then when it's a bloated, multi-billion dollar money-pit monstrosity rife with fraud, anyone who wants to cut it will get screamed at with "WHY DO YOU WANT TO TAKE DAYCARE AWAY FROM POOR PEOPLE!!??" That can be another dangled carrot for endless taxpayer extortion or else "we'll shut it down!" too.

If your govt. ponzi scheme has anything to do with children, you can pretty much bleed everybody else dry all, day every day and there's nothing anyone can say about it.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Good.

WIC is by intent a program designed to give support to people who don't deserve any.

If you can't feed yourself maybe you shouldn't be having children?

My father abandoned me (7), my mother, brother (2) and sister (5) in 1963 in inner city LA. My mother wasn't given a choice. She did everything she could to take care of us but we still went hungry at times, lost our electricity, lost heat during Winters after we moved to the Midwest to get some semblance of help from relatives, among many other physical and mental things that likely extend well beyond your ability to imagine.

If it wasn't for federal assistance, there is little doubt that us 3 kids would have ended up as wards of the State at a cost far exceeding what little human sustenance we received from the government. I find your lack of compassion towards women and children to be almost subhuman. I can't imagine what happened to you to cause one to form such a twisted world view...but I will say this...I genuinely do hope a day comes where you figure it out and become a better person for it. Life is short.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Why would you think that is my position? You agreed with everything I said. I'm pretty sure the government doesn't have a daycare program, but let me know if they do because I don't want my tax dollars going to that shit either. In fact, I'm just going to assume they do from now on because it makes for another good attack vector against these fucking hippy liberal pricks. But we might be getting a little off topic here so lets just stick with doing everything we can to make sure the kids of deadbeats don't get any of our hard earned money to use for food. There is a new iPhone out and I'm sick of my old iPhone 5. Are you with me, brother?

Still rocking the original galaxy note. Oh and I haven't paid for any form of cable tv except for 2 years of my adult working life and both me and my wife do okay. I do all my own repairs on my house, cars, etc on top of working a job that requires lots of hours. I get maybe 6 hours of sleep a night on a good night. I rarely go out to eat to a real restaurant (3x a year) and I order water if I do.
Sorry I'm not feeling much sympathy for these people that have it so hard waiting for their checks to come in the mail while they smoke dope all day and watch cable tv.

 

[Texashiker]

My father abandoned me (7), my mother, brother (2) and sister (5) in 1963 in inner city LA. My mother wasn't given a choice. <snip> I genuinely do hope a day comes where you figure it out and become a better person for it. Life is short.

That is one rough story.

It is people like your mom, you, your brother and your sister is why these programs were created. So that people who need help can get it.

 

[Engineer]

My father abandoned me (7), my mother, brother (2) and sister (5) in 1963 in inner city LA. My mother wasn't given a choice. She did everything she could to take care of us but we still went hungry at times, lost our electricity, lost heat during Winters after we moved to the Midwest to get some semblance of help from relatives, among many other physical and mental things that likely extend well beyond your ability to imagine.

If it wasn't for federal assistance, there is little doubt that us 3 kids would have ended up as wards of the State at a cost far exceeding what little human sustenance we received from the government. I find your lack of compassion towards women and children to be almost subhuman. I can't imagine what happened to you to cause one to form such a twisted world view...but I will say this...I genuinely do hope a day comes where you figure it out and become a better person for it. Life is short.

This will be interesting......

Well, not really. Thanks for the great story. It won't make a difference to whom you posted though. Wasting your typing.