WIC program in jeopardy after shutdown

[brycejones]

Notice how you cut off 1/2 my response?

Rape like assaulting someone is not about by sex, but exercising power over someone. Which is why men are assaulted in many cases in India too; only their plight is not international news for some reason. Not sure what you are having problems understanding.

Also note the lack of the word "punch", which you were pretty sure was in the quote. Notice also punch was in the quotes I gave earlier.

Spin it however you want.....I think your meaning is pretty clear. You're a tool who has a problem with women.

 

[brycejones]

false

my dad got fired and couldnt find a job for a while and lost most everything 20 years ago

and with WIC we could at least eat food for a few months

Sorry but according to some heartless individuals here you should have just starved.

 

[OverVolt]

Its obligatory.

 

[ivwshane]

Its obligatory.

Yep, poor people are animals or at least sub human. We get it, you hate the poor (or is it you just hate 47% of Americans).

I also find it fitting that you blame people for feeding wild animals (I'm assuming you agree with what you posted) and yet don't address the fact that their habitat is being infringed on and destroyed. It's easier to blame the symptoms and not the cause though

 

[classy]

Good.

WIC is by intent a program designed to give support to people who don't deserve any.

If you can't feed yourself maybe you shouldn't be having children?

Complete bs, you know nothing about wic.

 

[SheHateMe]

So a divorce anytime during the marriage does what to help the children.
Primary provider is gone.

What if the Primary just ups and walks way.

I am not talking about the baby factory mothers; but a mother that has put time and effort into a marriage and then has nothing. Employment prospects have to revolve around school time, if all the kids are of school age.

Daycare for infants /toddlers is a waste of working for most that WIC is intended for.

$15/hr barely covers food/rent - daycare will cost $5/hr at the low end.
Any6thing being earned below that limit does not provide income to support oneself if daycare is needed

If a woman if left by a man...its the woman's fault. There is something inherently wrong with women. I know because Nehalem told me so. When they get raped, they act like its a bad thing. When they get a free box of cheerios and a gallon of milk on the Government's dime, it's hurting all of us.

Why do they exist?

 

[nehalem256]

Yep, poor people are animals or at least sub human. We get it, you hate the poor (or is it you just hate 47% of Americans).

That would appear to be the contention of many on the left actually. They are the ones that contend we need programs such as WIC because poor people are too stupid to figure out they shouldn't have kids they cannot feed.

Complete bs, you know nothing about wic.

WIC is designed to amongst other things feed pregnant women.

If a woman cannot feed herself maybe she shouldn't be having a child? Or are you contending that poor women are basically animals, or at last sub-human, and therefore incapable of grasping such simple concepts?

 

[Paratus]

You'd fit right in in a Dickens novella

"At this festive season of the year, Mr Scrooge, ... it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir."

"Are there no prisons?"

"Plenty of prisons..."

"And the Union workhouses." demanded Scrooge. "Are they still in operation?"

"Both very busy, sir..."

"Those who are badly off must go there."

"Many can't go there; and many would rather die.""If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."

I've said the same thing myself. With Dickens writing about it, it just goes to show that the conservative ideology hasn't changed in two hundred years.

 

[SheHateMe]

WIC is designed to amongst other things feed pregnant women.

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about. WIC is about the well-being of the child. Always. Pre-natal nutrition is a large part of the well-being of the unborn child. They also offer free lactation services.

I bet you have a problem with that too.


To be eligible for the Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC), a person must meet three criteria. The criteria are:
1. Category
Pregnant women
Women who are breastfeeding an infant (under one year of age)
Postpartum women to the sixth month after delivery
Children from birth to five years of age

2. Income
Income eligibility requires that a household have gross income at or below 185% of the Federal Poverty Level.

3. Nutrition Risk
Nutrition risk is any medical or health problem which can be corrected or lessened by proper amounts and types of food intake. Examples of nutrition risk are:
Low iron levels
Insufficient growth, i.e. low weight for age, low weight for height
Premature delivery
Inadequate dietary intake (types or amounts of food)

 

[Engineer]

While OT, I think that food stamps should be set up patterned after the WIC program in that it spells out exactly what you can get and not get, but that's just me and probably for another thread.

 

[nehalem256]

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about. WIC is about the well-being of the child. Always. Pre-natal nutrition is a large part of the well-being of the unborn child. They also offer free lactation services.

I bet you have a problem with that too.

To be eligible for the Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC), a person must meet three criteria. The criteria are:
1. Category
Pregnant women
Women who are breastfeeding an infant (under one year of age)
Postpartum women to the sixth month after delivery
Children from birth to five years of age

2. Income
Income eligibility requires that a household have gross income at or below 185% of the Federal Poverty Level.

3. Nutrition Risk
Nutrition risk is any medical or health problem which can be corrected or lessened by proper amounts and types of food intake. Examples of nutrition risk are:
Low iron levels
Insufficient growth, i.e. low weight for age, low weight for height
Premature delivery
Inadequate dietary intake (types or amounts of food)

So it is your contention that Pregnant women count as children? Because it is a matter of Progressive Dogma that the fetus certainly isn't

And hard to argue that feeding (non-breastfeeding) postpartum women is anything other than a bailout for their poor life choices.

 

[Unmoosical]

If a woman cannot feed herself maybe she shouldn't be having a child?

So taking this situation (a pregnant woman that cannot feed herself) using your logic she has 2 options: 1. Time travel to keep herself from getting pregnant or 2. Have an abortion.

For the argument of "people shouldn't have children they cannot afford," simply saying "they shouldn't have gotten pregnant" accomplishes what exactly?

It also doesn't apply to people that COULD afford the child when they got pregnant but due to other life circumstances, can no longer feed their children.

 

[Engineer]

Lol, you people are wasting your time on nehalem256. He has a hard on for women in the worst possible way and there is no denying it. Judge must have really kicked him in the nuts on the settlement(s) and payment(s).

 

[PliotronX]

WIC is different from EBT; it dictates procurement of nutritious foods down to the ounce. Even though I detest handouts I know children who will be affected adversely and they are not lard pieces of shit like those in a lot of middleclass homes.

 

[dank69]

I'd be all for letting them have flour, milk, eggs, etc.. You could even bring in your children for daycare while you go out and work cleaning up the parks, court house, etc. to pay for your goods. If you are unable to work physically there will be phone positions to man for the offices. There is always option B which involves getting a job and making your own way. But maybe that's too cruel for some here? I mean the thought of people working for their own.

Fuck that noise. I thought you were a good man, but now you want me to pay for flour, milk, eggs for other people?! Figures. You are just a filthy closet liberal reaching into my wallet to pay for your socialist ideas.

 

[nehalem256]

So taking this situation (a pregnant woman that cannot feed herself) using your logic she has 2 options: 1. Time travel to keep herself from getting pregnant or 2. Have an abortion.

For the argument of "people shouldn't have children they cannot afford," simply saying "they shouldn't have gotten pregnant" accomplishes what exactly?

BAM. Problem solved. Refer to this prior post by me

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35560621&postcount=39

It also doesn't apply to people that COULD afford the child when they got pregnant but due to other life circumstances, can no longer feed their children.

You mean like their baby daddy going to prison?^_^

 

[Texashiker]

So taking this situation (a pregnant woman that cannot feed herself) using your logic she has 2 options: 1. Time travel to keep herself from getting pregnant or 2. Have an abortion.

For the argument of "people shouldn't have children they cannot afford," simply saying "they shouldn't have gotten pregnant" accomplishes what exactly?

When my daughter was 4 years old the company I was working for had a major financial setback. Due to the setback they had to let about 20% of their workforce go. I just happened to be in that 20%.

Sometimes bad things happen.

 

[Paratus]

Lol, you people are wasting your time on nehalem256. He has a hard on for women in the worst possible way and there is no denying it. Judge must have really kicked him in the nuts on the settlement(s) and payment(s).

I'm beginning to think his mommy and daddy split up when he was little. Now he blames all women for making his daddy go away.

 

[nehalem256]

Lol, you people are wasting your time on nehalem256. He has a hard on for women in the worst possible way and there is no denying it. Judge must have really kicked him in the nuts on the settlement(s) and payment(s).

You don't need to be kicked in the nuts to understand right and wrong. Do you have to have your house foreclosed on in order to have problems with irresponsible financial institutions needing bailouts?

Ironically your post is basically conceding I am right that WIC is about bailing out women for their poor life choices.

 

[nehalem256]

When my daughter was 4 years old the company I was working for had a major financial setback. Due to the setback they had to let about 20% of their workforce go. I just happened to be in that 20%.

Sometimes bad things happen.

If only there was a government program that covered exactly that situation *cough* unemployment insurance *cough*.

So how is your story an argument for a program designed to cover an entirely different situation?

You very well could design a program that attached vouchers for nutritious food for children to those on unemployment, but that isn't what WIC is.

 

[Texashiker]

If only there was a government program that covered exactly that situation *cough* unemployment insurance *cough*.

You do realize that unemployment pays you a fraction of what you were making?

 

[cbrunny]

That would appear to be the contention of many on the left actually. They are the ones that contend we need programs such as WIC because poor people are too stupid to figure out they shouldn't have kids they cannot feed.



WIC is designed to amongst other things feed pregnant women.

If a woman cannot feed herself maybe she shouldn't be having a child? Or are you contending that poor women are basically animals, or at last sub-human, and therefore incapable of grasping such simple concepts?

Please... PLEASE run for public office somewhere. I don't care where, or what for. Late night talk shows deserve this, at least.

 

[dank69]

I'm beginning to think his mommy and daddy split up when he was little. Now he blames all women for making his daddy go away.

The guy is batshit insane. He looks at a stat like the percentage of single mothers that are under the poverty line and concludes that this means no woman is capable of being a single mother. Refuses to admit even the possibility that the causation might be the opposite, that living in poverty might lead to more single mothers. Simple logic is not his friend.

 

[Engineer]

Ironically your post is basically conceding I am right that WIC is about bailing out women for their poor life choices.

That's your opinion, not mine.

 

[nehalem256]

The guy is batshit insane. He looks at a stat like the percentage of single mothers that are under the poverty line and concludes that this means no woman is capable of being a single mother.

Well the stats and the fact the Progressives repeatedly use single mothers as an example for why we need more government programs.

Funny that NPR is essentially in agreement with me.

Single mothers have an especially hard time getting out of poverty. Households headed by single mothers are four times as likely to be poor as are families headed by married couples.

Still, many of these women are trying to get ahead. Some know instinctively what the studies show: Children who grow up in poor families are far more likely to become poor adults.

These mothers often rely on a network of support — not just from food stamps, housing subsidies, welfare, or other government programs people usually think of. They also depend on charities, churches, family, friends, personal drive, ambition and even luck to stay afloat.

http://www.npr.org/2012/07/11/155103593/to-beat-odds-poor-single-moms-need-wide-safety-net

Refuses to admit even the possibility that the causation might be the oppositem, that living in poverty might lead to more single mothers. Simple logic is not his friend.

So by your logic 3rd World Countries should be filled with single mothers right?:hmm:

By your logic as the US has become more wealthy we should see a decrease in unwed motherhood right?:hmm:

Single motherhood is a problem caused by values not poverty.

You do realize that unemployment pays you a fraction of what you were making?

Yes. And I think I addressed that point(see quote below)

You very well could design a program that attached vouchers for nutritious food for children to those on unemployment, but that isn't what WIC is.