Why Are Cigarette Smokers So Rude?

[arcenite]

It annoys me way more when people put their butts outside of their car window while they're driving or stopped. Where do they think their butts are going? I got to work one day and had two plots of ash on the hood of my car.

 

[cheezy321]

The way I look at it, smokers have the right to smoke, but other people also have the right to clean air. I don't have a problem with people smoking around me, but I can understand how other people feel. They're fine with somebody smoking, as long as it doesn't interfere with them. But as soon as it does, it becomes an issue.

This is true to an extent. This is also the point I am trying to make. I do not smoke cigarettes. To complain because another human being is *gasp* smoking 30 feet away from the entrance and you get a slight whiff of it is asinine. So far I have not seen one legitimate complaint on this thread

Cliffs:
Boo hoo, my co-worker smells. I shouldnt have to smell them!

Boo hoo, i smelled cigarette smoke from the car who was smoking in front of me! This should be illegal!

Boo hoo, I walked outside and smelled cigarette smoke! Smokers should have to walk 1 mile away from any store entrance!


I agree that smoking should not be allowed indoors in public places. This is where it would become an issue for most people. A majority of states have laws already banning indoor smoking.

Look around. Smokers are now an oppressed group. They have to go thru a lot of hoops in order to keep the non-smokers happy. People have a right to do what they want, and people will always smoke no matter how much evidence is pointing to how unhealthy it is. Everyone knows this.

 

[zinfamous]

In This Thread:

Bitches bitching.

:thumbsup;

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I feel that it is your god-given right to mind your own business, lest you don't mind a swift kick to the balls.

I'm a non-smoker, and You should know that you are completely wrong on this. Most non-smoking nazis are the absolute worst when it comes to cramming your neo-health mumbo jumbo down others' throats, predicated on false science, and with no shred of irony as to how your self-righteousnes is the exact same form of disregard to humanity that you project on others.

Kindly go fuck yourself.

I am minding my own business. The whole post was about how smokers in general totally disregard non smokers right to breathe clean air. If someone wants to kill themselves smoking that's fine by me but whenever I'm forced to breathe that shit that's when I get pissed.

I guess you're the Atoter tough guy? I laugh at Internet bad asses like yourself. You work you little white collar job and the craziest thing you've done is maybe toilet paper someones house when you were 15. You were probably picked on through out school and now behind the annonymity of the Internet you talk about kicking people in the nuts and telling them to fuck theirselves. Ha! You're pathetic.

 

[QueBert]

I am minding my own business. The whole post was about how smokers in general totally disregard non smokers right to breathe clean air. If someone wants to kill themselves smoking that's fine by me but whenever I'm forced to breathe that shit that's when I get pissed.

I guess you're the Atoter tough guy? I laugh at Internet bad asses like yourself. You work you little white collar job and the craziest thing you've done is maybe toilet paper someones house when you were 15. You were probably picked on through out school and now behind the annonymity of the Internet you talk about kicking people in the nuts and telling them to fuck theirselves. Ha! You're pathetic.

Uhhh breathing clean air isn't a right, I live in LA and the air here is worse than living somewhere with almost perfectly clean air and but having to constantly breathe 2nd hand smoke. What gives you the right to breathe clean air? If you don't want to inhale 2nd hand smoke move to a place where smoking is banned everywhere outside. Plenty of places like that exist in America. But if you live somewhere where smoking outdoors isn't illegal, these rights you speak about don't exist. So don't think you have some magical right to not breath smoke, because you don't. I understand if I wanted to breathe clean air I'd have to move from LA to somewhere else. And because I understand this, I don't complain about my rights being violated by having to breath the heavily smog polluted air here. I make a choice to stay here and breathe it, so I STFU about it.

 

[zinfamous]

I am minding my own business. The whole post was about how smokers in general totally disregard non smokers right to breathe clean air.

There you go, right there.

You're entire rant is derived from some infantile assumption that you absolutely know why some stranger is doing exactly what they are doing, and that it somehow revolves around what you think about the world.

Once you get outside, see a little bit about the world, actually meet some people, perhaps some that don't fit into the tiny little box of comfort and acceptability that you've defined for yourself, you might learn how absolutely wrong you are.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

fatties and people who drink should not be allowed to tell smokers that they're wrong.

 

[zinfamous]

I am minding my own business. The whole post was about how smokers in general totally disregard non smokers right to breathe clean air. If someone wants to kill themselves smoking that's fine by me but whenever I'm forced to breathe that shit that's when I get pissed.

I guess you're the Atoter tough guy? I laugh at Internet bad asses like yourself. You work you little white collar job and the craziest thing you've done is maybe toilet paper someones house when you were 15. You were probably picked on through out school and now behind the annonymity of the Internet you talk about kicking people in the nuts and telling them to fuck theirselves. Ha! You're pathetic.

oh, and well, now that I read the rest of this, I see I was completely right about your wanton habit of making baseless assumptions about individuals on a foundation of one, simple trait.

We already know what you think about everyone with a cigarette in their mouth.

I now know what you think about some stranger who turns your juvenile world-view back in your face with a few sentences.

You know nothing about me, I'm damn far from an internet tough guy, and my childhood was anything but what you describe. You sound like you're still in your childhood, so I'll let you go and assume that you might possibly grow from that.

But my original offer still stands: kindly go fuck yourself.

 

[SlitheryDee]

I am minding my own business. The whole post was about how smokers in general totally disregard non smokers right to breathe clean air. If someone wants to kill themselves smoking that's fine by me but whenever I'm forced to breathe that shit that's when I get pissed.

That's the point. You don't have the right to a little bubble of clean air following you around wherever you go. You are inconvenienced and put upon on a daily basis by the personal choices of the people around you exercising their actual genuine rights in a free country. In return they put up with being inconvenienced and maligned by whatever idiotic thing it is that you do that has some small impact on them. We all do it. Many of these things we're so used to that we no longer notice them anymore. Many of them are the collective results of many morons and therefore hard to pin down to a specific group. They're just part of life. The point is that we put up with each other and are a freer society as a result. You DO NOT have the right to not be inconvenienced by other people exercising their own rights any more than they have the right to stop you from exercising yours for their convenience.

If that means your tender little nostrils might be fouled by a whiff of tobacco smoke every now and then that's TOO BAD.

I should add that this is how things should be, even though we seem to be in the process of legislating that notion right out. We won't really be happy until no one has any rights at all I think.

 

[AreaCode707]

That's the point. You don't have the right to a little bubble of clean air following you around wherever you go. You are inconvenienced and put upon on a daily basis by the personal choices of the people around you exercising their actual genuine rights in a free country. In return they put up with being inconvenienced and maligned by whatever idiotic thing it is that you do that has some small impact on them. We all do it. Many of these things we're so used to that we no longer notice them anymore. Many of them are the collective results of many morons and therefore hard to pin down to a specific group They're just part of life. The point is that we put up with each other and are a freer society as a result. You DO NOT have the right to not be inconvenienced by other people exercising their own rights any more than they have the right to stop you from exercising yours for their convenience.

If that means your tender little nostrils might be fouled by a whiff of tobacco smoke every now and then that's TOO BAD.

I should add that this is how things should be, even though we seem to be in the process of legislating that notion right out. We won't really be happy until no one has any rights at all I think.

I class many smokers as rude for the following reason (when this scenario occurs, as it did in the airport):

- I presume they prefer to smoke and, in the areas in question, have the right to do so.
- They can reasonably presume I do not prefer to breathe in their smoke but, in the areas in question, have no right to insist against it.
- It would be relatively easy for the smokers to move a few steps downwind. That would be quite polite of them.
- I've never seen a smoker act aware of the preferences of others and take a few steps to one side to accommodate

Therefore I consider many smokers to be rude. I'm not debating their right to smoke in those smoking areas, but I do wish that when I'm waiting for the shuttle and they could be using ashtray 1 out of the wind for the shuttle queue, that they wouldn't stand at ashtray 2 where their smoke blows into the queue.

 

[Edgy]

I smoke... but
I do not smoke in cars - the odor is just impossible not to notice for any future passengers, let alone myself.
I do not smoke in my house or indoors for that matter - similar reason as for the car so I use the balcony.
I always use designated smoking areas or if at outdoors, smoke only when there are no crowds or there are enough spacing to limit affecting the smoke blowing into other people.
I always ask during a conversation outside if I can light up one and always make sure that I'm positioning myself down-wind so the smoke doesn't blow into other people in my party.
I do not litter cigarette butts - always put it out and use trash.

Maybe you think smokers are rude in general because "non-rude" smokers are considerate enough as not to blow smoke in your face and come tell you about it in detail...

What I really get peeved about are those non-smokers who decide to stand 5 feet from the designated smoking areas and gives you the dirtiest, nasty stares as if their own stupidity in choosing such tactically advantageous location to park their fat behinds has nothing to do with the smoke that's being blown into their ugly faces unintentionally by the downdraft wind...

 

[IronWing]

Smokers are assholes. Not much else needs to be said on the topic.

 

[judasmachine]

why are people regardless of their smoking status so rude? especially those who claim to be otherwise?

 

[waitman]

I've said it before and I'll say it again...People that bitch about people that smoke are just bitchy fucking people. Doesn't seem to bother people that they are inhaling car exhaust from the car in front of them. Now that's deadly shit! I guess as long as you can't smell, it must be ok. if I had a big problem with it, I would be on the lookout for smokers everywhere I went. I could hold my breath when I walked past, like I do when I walk past most people. LOL

 

[bobdole369]

It used to be back in the sixties and early 70's you could smoke just about anywhere you wanted. Including on a damn airplane!!! You could seriously puff on a smoke while flying. They did ask that you not stamp out the butts on the carpet though.

I remember my mom smoking in the grocery store in the early 80's. It was just fine, people did it. The checkout lady at the same store would be smoking too. People just did it and didn't even think about it. I think its because everybody else did it too.

People would smoke inside their offices at their desks. Imagine being at work surfing ATOT smoking a cigarette. Having a i love you in the server room.

Imagine the mess to vacuum out all the time. Have you ever had to fix a really heavy smokers PC?

I remember we used to be able to smoke inside restaurants too. Now even the idea of lighting up inside pretty much anywhere is alien. Even seeing someone smoking on TV is kinda weird. Ever since I quit I have also turned into a royal dick to smokers. Mostly because of the lie of nicotine.

 

[F1N3ST]

I smoke... but
I do not smoke in cars - the odor is just impossible not to notice for any future passengers, let alone myself.
I do not smoke in my house or indoors for that matter - similar reason as for the car so I use the balcony.
I always use designated smoking areas or if at outdoors, smoke only when there are no crowds or there are enough spacing to limit affecting the smoke blowing into other people.
I always ask during a conversation outside if I can light up one and always make sure that I'm positioning myself down-wind so the smoke doesn't blow into other people in my party.
I do not litter cigarette butts - always put it out and use trash.

Maybe you think smokers are rude in general because "non-rude" smokers are considerate enough as not to blow smoke in your face and come tell you about it in detail...

What I really get peeved about are those non-smokers who decide to stand 5 feet from the designated smoking areas and gives you the dirtiest, nasty stares as if their own stupidity in choosing such tactically advantageous location to park their fat behinds has nothing to do with the smoke that's being blown into their ugly faces unintentionally by the downdraft wind...

I smell a lurker.

 

[Kalmah]

I'm a smoker, and can honestly say that I actively make sure that I'm not bothering anybody.

But then on the other hand, I can't control where my smoke blows when I blow it out of my window. Many people's car exhaust makes me sick but I just get over it instead of whining like a bitchnozzle.

I get more asshole remarks from the non-smokers that I am actively trying to avoid than anyone, obviously. I'm giving them respect by keeping my distance.. I'll be 40 feet away and the second somebody sees me they do their fake cough routine. After that, I'm just thinking fuck you dude. When driving, you've probably never used your turning signal in your life..(I'm certain 90% of people don't) so you are probably an asshole by choice while I'm trying to be as polite as possible.

I'll just put it this way, whatever you bitch about I can probably bitch about something 10-fold worse. You do your fake cough routine.. go into the store.. I'm waiting to go into work or something so I'm just chilling.. then when you leave you pull out and cut the first person off and make them have to slam their brakes. Not everybody is the divine heartful person they believe that they are.

Those who think they have a reason to bitch, stop and smell your own shit for once.

 

[F1N3ST]

 

[bobdole369]

Tell us how you really feel Kalmah.

 

[Kalmah]

When did you turn black? lol I'm talking about your avatar.

I never realized I had so many Michigan brothaz on atot.

 

[Kalmah]

Tell us how you really feel Kalmah.

lmao I told em good too!

 

[n7]

Smoking needs to be made illegal.

I would be insanely happy if that happened.

 

[F1N3ST]

When did you turn black? lol I'm talking about your avatar.

I never realized I had so many Michigan brothaz on atot.

I'm white, but yes I live in SE Michigan.

 

[neegotiator]

*shrug* when i was smoking, i made sure to be in an open area with other smokers or by myself. i try my best to stay out of way of others and espeically if i spot kids around. if someone asks me politely to move, i'll gladly move. if they make a snide remark at me to move, i'll move, understand they hate smokers, and continue on.

 

[bobdole369]

yes I live in SE Michigan.

May I ask why?

I grew up western wayne and moved on to ann arbor/ypsi for high school. (parents were brought up in brightmoor, which I understand is completely gone now) Even in that area I ran screaming out of there for the jobs in other parts of the country that just didn't exist in the rust belt. Noone in my family remains there.