Slapstick
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- Oct 11, 1999
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Damn I''m really in trouble now, I smoke and drink coffee! I'm offending everyone on the planet!
And my mother said I'd never amount to anything.
Damn I''m really in trouble now, I smoke and drink coffee! I'm offending everyone on the planet!
And my mother said I'd never amount to anything.
frostedflakes
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angminas
Diamond Member
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(I didn't read the entire thread)
If you smoke in 2010 and you didn't start in like the early '60s, you have some serious issues. It's nothing short of utterly, indescribably, incomprehensibly stupid.
Think we're treating you like garbage? No, you're treating yourself like garbage...we're just acknowledging it.
Grow up, think of those who love you, and quit. Forever. RIGHT NOW.
(lost my mother to lung cancer in December...crying as I type this...don't make those who love you suffer what I've suffered)
If you smoke in 2010 and you didn't start in like the early '60s, you have some serious issues. It's nothing short of utterly, indescribably, incomprehensibly stupid.
Think we're treating you like garbage? No, you're treating yourself like garbage...we're just acknowledging it.
Grow up, think of those who love you, and quit. Forever. RIGHT NOW.
(lost my mother to lung cancer in December...crying as I type this...don't make those who love you suffer what I've suffered)
surfsatwerk
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That would be well and good except for the fact that like every citizen of this country I'm allowed the freedom to engage in activities that are legal. Some of these activities have the potential to do harm to myself, but it is my choice to participate.
I come from a wonderful tradition in this country, it's called minding my own business. I don't like the choices other people make with their lives, but it's none of my god damn business because their choices don't effect me. I'm sure you would love to control everybody else and run their lives for them, thankfully you don't so quit trying to.
Are we reverting to our childhood "Yes it does/No it doesn't" games? Nicotine has a number of effects. The largest for an addicted smoker is that the nicotine level in the body is increased, satisfying the entire bodies response to NOT smoking, which is an increase in nervousness, jitteriness, the shakes, etc. The beginning phases of nicotine withdrawal. In this manner, as the smoker has caused his own feelings of nervousness - he "fixes" it with a cigarette. Thus a cigarette is "relaxing". I know smokers get pissed when the truth is revealed, so have at me, then try not to smoke anymore.
Of course this doesn't explain why non-addicted or social smokers think the same way. I am no doctor, but my guess is that the calming effect comes from deep breathing, and perhaps stopping everything and sitting there for 5 minutes to inhale the smoke.
Nicotine itself is a stimulant, it increases blood pressure and dilates the blood vessels, increases CO and CO2 levels, which reduce the effectiveness of respiration.
It is seriously ignorant (or addictive thinking) to imagine a stimulant relaxes you. There is another effect at play. THis is a big part of the lie of nicotine.
40Hands
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Yeah the non-smokers should have to pander to the smokers. Makes perfect sense.
Because their right to smoke cancerous shit should trump others right to breath fresh air. I should have to close my bedroom window because of others habits? Smokers should have to be a certain distance from building windows.Although, my can of stink seems like a better idea all the time and it fits right in with your ideas. No smoker should have an issue with it!
2Xtreme21
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Yeah the non-smokers should have to pander to the smokers. Makes perfect sense.
Although, my can of stink seems like a better idea all the time and it fits right in with your ideas. No smoker should have an issue with it!
Dude, man the fuck up. That advice can be said to all you cry babies in this thread.
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
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Thankfully, smoking is banned in most public places in California. You cannot smoke in a place of business, you cannot smoke in any restaurant or bar, you cannot smoke in the malls, you cannot smoke on the beaches or in parks.
Yet another thing I LOVE about California!
Yet another thing I LOVE about California!
40Hands
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I'm ALL about minding my own business. However, when smokers gather outside right below my bedroom window and chain smoke, it becomes my business. When my lawn is covered in cigarette butts, that's more of my business. It's everyone's business when the butts leak chemicals into the ground which end up in water supplies.
Other then that, smoke yourself to death for all I care.
40Hands
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Nik
Lifer
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Yeah the non-smokers should have to pander to the smokers. Makes perfect sense.
Although, my can of stink seems like a better idea all the time and it fits right in with your ideas. No smoker should have an issue with it!
Actually, non-smokers need to STFU and mind their own damn business.
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meltdown75
Lifer
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he's right. busybodies are too concerned with other people's lives because their own lives suck shit. this is a proven fact that everyone knows.
Nik
Lifer
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Me: contributing to the thread
You: no content besides personal insults
Who, exactly, is trolling?
angminas
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Yeah, I'm such a hero if I "don't try to run somebody else's life" by reaching for their hand while they're about to fall off a cliff.
Minding your own business is only good if it's good. Like everything else.
Smoking kills, and it kills slowly. It ruins the lives of victims...both those who die, and those who live. It is the realm of victims and failures and fools, and nothing anybody can say about "freedom" will change that.
I wish I could make you see my mother's eyes as I fed her my special oatmeal a few days before she died, or gave her a drink of chocolate cherry milk from the grocery store next to the hospice home. I wish you could see me sobbing uncontrollably at her memorial service a week later. I wish you could know what I know, feel what I feel.
If you've never lost a loved one to lung cancer (or similar) and still think I'm wrong, just stop thinking you know anything about anything, because you don't.
Yeah, people who never say anything about the way other people live are heroes. They enable smokers to die of lung cancer, drunks to die of cirrhosis, lonely people to die of AIDS, fools to die in gun battles. Yeah, real mean just let their friends do whatever comes easy, because truth is found deep within the human heart, right? Just as it's been for thousands of years, right?
No. A real man stands in the face of evil and calls it what it is. Even to his friends.
Especially to his friends.
Nik
Lifer
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If that person were choosing to jump off a cliff, then let them.
It doesn't matter how much you bitch and moan about smoking or how high you pile phone books onto your soapbox to get higher, you're still not minding your own goddamn business.
Smokers made a choice. Fuck off.
Nik
Lifer
- Jun 5, 2006
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Yes.
See? More insults from you with a significant lack of content.
Are you done trolling yet?
Another point to make about "minding your own business".
Do you take the keys of your friends hand that is too drunk out of his mind and body to drive?
Its the same with smoking just a lot slower. Smoking itself (the addictive shaky old lady hole in the throat kind) - reinforces itself, and the act of smoking alters your conciousness to the point where you think its just fine, it "relaxes you", and that life without smoking every hour is a life they don't want to live, and the ultimate - that they actually "want" to smoke.
How many smokers check to see that they have enough to last the night? How many will actually go out and get more. Often not paying for food for want of smokes.
This causes the above syndrome in my eyes. The person is not thinking for themselves and is in fact deluded by the drug nicotine. This I feel gives me the right to be a dick and to not mind my own business about others smoking. My friend isn't thinking right, and as long as the drug is telling him that he "likes" killing himself slowly - he isn't speaking from his heart.
Do you take the keys of your friends hand that is too drunk out of his mind and body to drive?
Its the same with smoking just a lot slower. Smoking itself (the addictive shaky old lady hole in the throat kind) - reinforces itself, and the act of smoking alters your conciousness to the point where you think its just fine, it "relaxes you", and that life without smoking every hour is a life they don't want to live, and the ultimate - that they actually "want" to smoke.
How many smokers check to see that they have enough to last the night? How many will actually go out and get more. Often not paying for food for want of smokes.
This causes the above syndrome in my eyes. The person is not thinking for themselves and is in fact deluded by the drug nicotine. This I feel gives me the right to be a dick and to not mind my own business about others smoking. My friend isn't thinking right, and as long as the drug is telling him that he "likes" killing himself slowly - he isn't speaking from his heart.
Nik
Lifer
- Jun 5, 2006
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bobdole, not all smokers are the same. There are people in this thread, like me, who are clearly not the smoke-every-hour type. Your analogy fails. You're completely out of touch with reality for many smokers.
It doesn't matter what syndrome you have in your eyes (though you may want to get that checked by a doctor) because we're making the choice and you have absolutely no right to control our lives.
Again, stuff your stupid opinion because nobody wants to hear it.
It doesn't matter what syndrome you have in your eyes (though you may want to get that checked by a doctor) because we're making the choice and you have absolutely no right to control our lives.
Again, stuff your stupid opinion because nobody wants to hear it.
- May 13, 2009
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The perception you have of who I am from my posts is totally different than how I am in real life. I could care less about anybody or anything that doesn't affect me or my family. The last on my list of concerns is if you smoke or not. I just don't like smelling the stuff. If you're in a wheelchair breathing through a tube in your nose later on I'd have the same reaction as I do anyone else. Man that sucks. Then I'd go on my way and forget about it.
As far as the life sucking shit deal that's wrong too. I am very happy when I'm at home with my wife and dog. I have lots of cool toys I bought myself and a nice house. Life is good to me.
Nik
Lifer
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You could? How much less could you care? Could you care only a little less? Could you care a lot less?
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