why all the hate to SUV's and not pickup trucks?

[mugs]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Pickup trucks usually have a function. I want to buy a truck right now just to haul lumber and work on some house projects. Using it as a daily driver wouldn't be my first choice, but it's slightly less obnoxious because you can actually see around it. In traffic, an SUV totally blocks the view of what's going on up ahead....

SUV's have a function as well, just not the function you need. and to tell you the truth seeing around a pickup and a suv is just about the same and a lot better than being behind a semi.

No one is debating the functionality of an SUV. Most of the debate is centered around how often that function is used. For example, let's say you use an SUV for a purpose which would be impossible to accomplish with a mid sized econ car once every 3 months. Think about the money you would save in gas if you just decided to rent an SUV for that purpose in gas alone or if you paid to have said item(s) delivered? Not to mention that maintenance when it comes to wear and tear on an SUV is more expensive. It's a win/win situation for everyone.

Who F*'in cares how much the function is used. Geezus, it's not your decision. If I buy a vehicle for a purpose that is used 4 times a year and I can pony up the money for it, why the F should you care? Why do you let yourself get so worked up with what someone else buys?

I don't think anyone wants to prohibit anyone from buying the vehicle that they want. But there is nothing wrong with being happy to see a reduction in the number of those vehicles on the road.

 

[adairusmc]

I still :heart: my cummins

 

[broon]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
No one is debating the functionality of an SUV. Most of the debate is centered around how often that function is used. For example, let's say you use an SUV for a purpose which would be impossible to accomplish with a mid sized econ car once every 3 months. Think about the money you would save in gas if you just decided to rent an SUV for that purpose in gas alone or if you paid to have said item(s) delivered? Not to mention that maintenance when it comes to wear and tear on an SUV is more expensive. It's a win/win situation for everyone.

It's no one's business if I want to spend my money on an SUV. Even if I don't "need" it. Fart can tips on mufflers aren't needed either. Should they be banned? I don't "need" my smart phone. Should I have not been allowed to buy that either?

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Pickup trucks usually have a function. I want to buy a truck right now just to haul lumber and work on some house projects. Using it as a daily driver wouldn't be my first choice, but it's slightly less obnoxious because you can actually see around it. In traffic, an SUV totally blocks the view of what's going on up ahead....

SUV's have a function as well, just not the function you need. and to tell you the truth seeing around a pickup and a suv is just about the same and a lot better than being behind a semi.

No one is debating the functionality of an SUV. Most of the debate is centered around how often that function is used. For example, let's say you use an SUV for a purpose which would be impossible to accomplish with a mid sized econ car once every 3 months. Think about the money you would save in gas if you just decided to rent an SUV for that purpose in gas alone or if you paid to have said item(s) delivered? Not to mention that maintenance when it comes to wear and tear on an SUV is more expensive. It's a win/win situation for everyone.

Who F*'in cares how much the function is used. Geezus, it's not your decision. If I buy a vehicle for a purpose that is used 4 times a year and I can pony up the money for it, why the F should you care? Why do you let yourself get so worked up with what someone else buys?

lol, I think you are mistaken when it comes to who is getting worked up here.

I don't care that much, but let's face it. America's gas consumption is having an impact on the high prices in a bad way. SUVs use a lot more gas and a very large number of those SUVs are being used in the exact same way that a econ car is used for. That's just a fact whether you like it or not.

 

[mesthead21]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: mesthead21
I am going to guess and say because a lot of the people that have SUV's don't necessarily need them. I would say that more people use trucks to move large things they can't in an SUV.

ok i get it now. people with trucks are excused from the bashing because someday they "might" need to move something that is too large to fit in a SUV.

common dude, get real i had a pickup and the only time i needed the haul something big was when i bought my fridge. other than that i didnt use it to haul anything.

Sorry, didn't know i had to justify why I bought a truck to you.

 

[bonkers325]

in general, people who own pickup trucks use them because they NEED them for their daily/weekly chores. cant say the same for most SUV owners

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Pickup trucks usually have a function. I want to buy a truck right now just to haul lumber and work on some house projects. Using it as a daily driver wouldn't be my first choice, but it's slightly less obnoxious because you can actually see around it. In traffic, an SUV totally blocks the view of what's going on up ahead....

SUV's have a function as well, just not the function you need. and to tell you the truth seeing around a pickup and a suv is just about the same and a lot better than being behind a semi.

No one is debating the functionality of an SUV. Most of the debate is centered around how often that function is used. For example, let's say you use an SUV for a purpose which would be impossible to accomplish with a mid sized econ car once every 3 months. Think about the money you would save in gas if you just decided to rent an SUV for that purpose in gas alone or if you paid to have said item(s) delivered? Not to mention that maintenance when it comes to wear and tear on an SUV is more expensive. It's a win/win situation for everyone.

Who F*'in cares how much the function is used. Geezus, it's not your decision. If I buy a vehicle for a purpose that is used 4 times a year and I can pony up the money for it, why the F should you care? Why do you let yourself get so worked up with what someone else buys?

I don't think anyone wants to prohibit anyone from buying the vehicle that they want. But there is nothing wrong with being happy to see a reduction in the number of those vehicles on the road.

mugs, you haven't visited P&N lately have you? There are plenty of people who want to limit what you can buy.

 

[hanoverphist]

i think id still have my truck if i changed jobs and didnt actually need it. i love my truck. i dont care the mileage isnt optimal, my kids fit in it, along with 2 dogs. and their bikes. sure i could do the same with a mid size car probably, but i like my truck. dont like it? dont buy one. dont like mine? tough shit. i paid for it, and pay the expenses to own it. until youre paying my bills you have no say in what i own/ drive/ do.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: bonkers325
in general, people who own pickup trucks use them because they NEED them for their daily/weekly chores. cant say the same for most SUV owners

sure you can.

 

[So]

I drive a Ford Ranger -- it gets 20/21MPG and is extremely convenient when I want to haul anything, which is more often than you'd think. It's not fuel efficient, but I wouldn't call it a gas guzzler and the cost of replacing a perfectly good vehicle is far too much to justify.

 

[rh71]

I swear... if anyone brings up the "need" issue one more time without thinking about the size of their house, the amount of underwear they own, the speed of their cpu, the storage size of their ipod, the number of nostrils they have... I'm gonna pop someone.

STFU ABOUT NEED.

 

[nageov3t]

I see suvs faaar more frequently than I see pickup trucks.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: bonkers325
in general, people who own pickup trucks use them because they NEED them for their daily/weekly chores. cant say the same for most SUV owners

sure you can.

Meh. Short of towing, there isn't really much that a mid/full size SUV has over a minivan.

<---- Went from a Highlander to a minivan.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: bonkers325
in general, people who own pickup trucks use them because they NEED them for their daily/weekly chores. cant say the same for most SUV owners

sure you can.

Meh. Short of towing, there isn't really much that a mid/full size SUV has over a minivan.

<---- Went from a Highlander to a minivan.

i used to have a 4X4 suburban. my in laws have a dodge caravan. mine sat 8, theirs sits 7. when sitting in the back seats, i had room to not touch shoulders with the next person. not so in the caravan. leg room, cargo space, head room. all different, and lower in the caravan. id say that in my experiences the minivan failed all around compared to the SUV.

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: rh71
I swear... if anyone brings up the "need" issue one more time without thinking about the size of their house, the amount of underwear they own, the speed of their cpu, the storage size of their ipod, the number of nostrils they have... I'm gonna pop someone.

STFU ABOUT NEED.

:thumbsup:

Need should never be a consideration for anything, I buy and own the things I WANT.

 

[seemingly random]

I have a 3/4 ton chevy truck with the make-believe back seat (three-door) with a 300hp, gas guzzlin' motor. It's the most useful vehicle I've ever owned. I don't feel cramped in it like I do in 'sedans'. I had a ford expedition with the soccer mom suspension and like the pickup truck much better.

If you don't have scratches in the bed or don't deal with large trailers, you don't need a full-size pickup truck. If I had a long commute of just people, I'd consider something more efficient.

 

[dartworth]

I loath people with giant houses...all the extra resources to power and heat them:|

 

[CrackRabbit]

Originally posted by: CPA
Because soccer moms don't drive trucks.*

* Does not apply to states of TX,LA,AR,AL,MS,GA,WV and FL.

 

[Kelvrick]

I think I hate trucks more.

Actually, I just hate lifted trucks that threaten to decapitate me if I get into an accident. I don't care how much they need them, they should be classified same as the big-rigs, with the same speed limits and start busting those guys for negating crumple zones.

I don't like driving next to one on the freeway and having their license plate at eye-level.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: rh71
I swear... if anyone brings up the "need" issue one more time without thinking about the size of their house, the amount of underwear they own, the speed of their cpu, the storage size of their ipod, the number of nostrils they have... I'm gonna pop someone.

STFU ABOUT NEED.

The thing is, those frivolous things don't impact other people's lives. Driving a small car when you're surrounded by SUVs and trucks is a hazard to your health, especially when half of them speed excessively while talking on cell phones and generally not paying attention.

 

[RKS]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Pickup trucks usually have a function. I want to buy a truck right now just to haul lumber and work on some house projects. Using it as a daily driver wouldn't be my first choice, but it's slightly less obnoxious because you can actually see around it. In traffic, an SUV totally blocks the view of what's going on up ahead....

SUV's have a function as well, just not the function you need. and to tell you the truth seeing around a pickup and a suv is just about the same and a lot better than being behind a semi.

No one is debating the functionality of an SUV. Most of the debate is centered around how often that function is used. For example, let's say you use an SUV for a purpose which would be impossible to accomplish with a mid sized econ car once every 3 months. Think about the money you would save in gas if you just decided to rent an SUV for that purpose in gas alone or if you paid to have said item(s) delivered? Not to mention that maintenance when it comes to wear and tear on an SUV is more expensive. It's a win/win situation for everyone.

Who F*'in cares how much the function is used. Geezus, it's not your decision. If I buy a vehicle for a purpose that is used 4 times a year and I can pony up the money for it, why the F should you care? Why do you let yourself get so worked up with what someone else buys?

It was either a mini-van or an SUV for us and neither my wife nor I wanted to drive a mini-van. Yes there are times when someone drives the SUV without additional passengers but I'm sure most people drive solo even in their sub-compact Smart cars.

If you can't see around my SUV then you are probably driving too close. I need a bumper sticker that says "I brake for hyper-milers".

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: rh71
I swear... if anyone brings up the "need" issue one more time without thinking about the size of their house, the amount of underwear they own, the speed of their cpu, the storage size of their ipod, the number of nostrils they have... I'm gonna pop someone.

STFU ABOUT NEED.

The thing is, those frivolous things don't impact other people's lives. Driving a small car when you're surrounded by SUVs and trucks is a hazard to your health, especially when half of them speed excessively while talking on cell phones and generally not paying attention.

bad drivers are a hazard to your health, not the vehicle itself.

 

[GeneralDisarray]

Indeed a pick-up is almost always less practical than an SUV. The majority of pick-up owners I know have a few assorted items in their box/bed that could easily fit into a trunk or the back of an SUV, yet all the wasted space of the flat-bed is unusable for passengers. I drive an SUV because I'm quite tall and don't fit well in even the largest sedans. People have asked why not get a pick-up, and I'm always amazed how ridiculous it would be to have one outside of working in construction. If people are honest with themselves they know they do maybe 2-5 things a year that would benefit from a flat-bed leaving the other 360 days of wasted space. At least I can drive 8 people around in an SUV and make it pretty fuel efficient on a gas to people scale.

 

[Cold Steel]

I love my gas guzzling supercharged Xterra. It pulls the boat like it's not even there, hauls all the camping gear we need and is a damn decent off road truck. And I mean off road, as in through the middle of effing woods off road, not the dirt road to the town dump type off road.

Like I said, I love my gas guzzling supercharged Xterra.

 

[TheNinja]

Because typically a SUV driver is a soccer mom whose husband bought her some gigantic SUV to make up for the fact that he works 18 hours a day. Then she has no idea how to drive the thing and is tpyically hauling 2 kids in a 8 passenger vehicle bumping into stuff all the time.

Trucks often can get better mileage plus they can haul stuff in the back. My truck gets around 10 miles to the gallon in city...luckily my commute is about 2.5 miles. I like to have the bed for hauling stuff. Granted I don't haul often but it's great to have when you need it and you'd be surprised how often you can use a truck.

Personally I don't have hate for anyone for any vehicle choice. If you can afford it and want to buy it, then go ahead, just don't hit me with your H2.