who's planning to get Move for PS3?

[SandEagle]

glad i had some reward points left on my sony card. already have an EyeToy, so I ordered the following for free:

two Move motion controllers
two Move navigation controllers
EyePet

 

[blurredvision]

**Warning: Massive wall of text incoming.**

So I've been able to put in quite a bit of time with Move last night and this morning, and I must say that I'm completely enamored with the technology. I owned the Wii a few years back for just a few months. My main reason for purchasing it was partly because of hype and partly because my wife expressed interest in it. She doesn't care anything for video games and it's my biggest hobby, so if there's a chance I can get her interested, I'll take it.

She actually did like the Wii, but would never play it without me. I hated it. At the time, there were no good games and the Motion Plus wasn't anywhere near rumor status, so needless to say, my experiences as a longtime gamer were bad. I very much disliked Wii Sports and all the other mini-games. The most fun we had with the system was Cooking Mama, and even that was a shitty game. I always thought the Wii tech was horrible and very inaccurate. I was actually turned off motion control for quite some time and hoped the success of the Wii wasn't going to completely change the direction of console gaming forever.

I'm a sucker for new, promising technology though, and luckily the Move has exceeded all of my expectations. Honestly, this is what the Wii should have been, but then again, the Move wouldn't exist without the Wii in the first place. It's a natural progression I suppose. I actually kind of view the Move as if the Wii has grown up, made the transition away from the children demographic and introduced true 1:1 motion control with depth.

I'll get into my thoughts on the hardware. I bought the $99 Sports Champions bundle with an extra Move controller. The controllers themselves are very comfortable and fit my large hands well...the ergonomics are great. The fit and finish is very tight, these are solid controllers, they definitely don't feel cheap. The buttons have a nice press to them, the trigger on the back (referred to as the T button) is analog and has a very good travel to it. It feels very similar to the R2/L2 on the dualshock.

As far as calibration is concerned, I've not had any show-stopping problems. I have my Eye set atop my television with two large windows behind me. During the loading screens on Sports Champions, it recommends a distance of 8.5' from the Eye, but I'm about 5' away and I don't have any problems. The Eye will adjust its exposure automatically to read the colored ball on top of the Move controller, and even with the bright lights behind me, it's never lost sight of my controller. At lot of what I've read so far about people having calibration issues is when they place their camera at the bottom of their TV and point it up. From my experiences, if the game requires you to stand up, you need to have the camera high. If you can sit while playing, then you can place it low.

On to the games. The only full game I have is Sports Champions, and as far as I'm concerned, this is the showpiece of Move. You're really doing yourself a disservice by not picking this up. The $99 bundle also comes with a demo disc with about a dozen game demos on it so you can try almost everything available. Honestly, every single game in Sports Champions is great. Some are better than others, but they are all very playable and intuitive. Each has 3 difficulties, and while the easiest does assist you in some ways, you can go to the hardest difficulty and it's all you and your motions.

Table tennis is the star in SC, it really shows off the movement and depth available. If you twist your hand, the on-screen paddle matches you perfectly. When you move from left to right, the paddle moves right with you. Even when you step in towards your TV or step back, the paddle will approach the net or come far behind the table. You're using every single dimension here, it's quite amazing. If you're not trying to perceive any latency between your motion and what happens on the screen, it's definitely 1:1. If you do try to spot latency, I think you'd agree with me that it's definitely below 100ms. Basically, if you move, it moves on screen immediately.

I was actually struggling a bit table tennis at first, but I put myself into the thinking that I was in front of an actual ping pong table and I started doing much better. The easiest difficulty helps you out a bit and lets you get away with a lot. It's hard to miss the ball and it's even harder to hit it off the other side of the table. You have access to cutting underneath of it to put backspin or chopping hard over top of it with a forehand to put forward spin. The harder you swing, the faster it goes. If you play the tournament mode, it will tell you your fastest return....I hit over 60MPH on a couple of matches (I was really getting into it...haha). If the ball drops right in front of the net, you literally have to step up and swing forward with the Move controller as if it were the actual paddle. Long hits towards you requires you to step backwards, just like in real life. When you get to the hardest difficulty, it turns all the help off and you need to put your Move controller exactly where it needs to be in 3D space (based on your calibration that it does before every game). I've only tried the hardest difficulty a couple of times and never got a single point. It's hard.

As for the other games in Sports Champions, Disc Golf is really fun. It mimics frisbee throwing very well. I had no problems curving when I wanted to but throwing straight was difficult, just like in real life. Gladiator is the next one, and is actually pretty fun with two Move controllers. One controller controls your shield and the other your weapon, and it's all 1:1 movement. I didn't play this one enough to like it as much as some of the people over at Neogaf, but it is a lot of fun. Archery was next, and I honestly didn't play much of this one. You can use two Move controllers with this one as well, but I found the motion of pulling an arrow out of your quiver to be hit-or-miss. It was very jumpy and I couldn't pull an arrow out half the time. I think more practice will remedy it. I also had problems playing this standing up, since I think I was too close to the Eye. Sitting down allowed me to actually try it out, but I haven't went back in since.

Next up is Volleyball, and I wasn't too impressed, but it's still fun. This reminded me more of a Wii-type game where it was more about going through the motions than anything. You do have to actually go through full motions though since it is also tracking the glowing ball rather than just sensors, so you can't really just sit down and flick your wrist like you can on the Wii. Last was Bocce. I had no idea what this game was about but found it to be a ton of fun. The tutorial teaches you how to play, which was very simple. The Move controls are spot on with twisting your wrist to put spin on the ball as you throw it.

My wife did gladly play some games with me last night, and I have to say that she beat me in every single one we tried. We played two matches of table tennis and she beat me in both. Then we played 3 matches of Bocce and she beat me in those too. She really enjoyed herself last night, and she doesn't like video games.

On to the demos. Like I said earlier, the bundle came with a disc with about a dozen demos. I'll jot down my thoughts really quick.

Start the Party - I came away impressed with this one. The wife played this one, too, and she absolutely loved it. She even asked how much it was. The ability of the game to superimpose a virtual item over top your Move controller on-screen was absolutely amazing. It was rock solid, too. No matter how fast you moved your controller across the screen or how much you turned, twisted, and otherwise flung your controller about, the virtual graphic stays right with your controller, moving in, out, and around. I think it was insanely impressive as a tech demo and I still don't think I'm doing it enough justice. It's unfortunate the camera quality is awful.

The two mini-games were fun. Swatting insects was entertaining at first but not lasting, but the the painting was a lot of fun. I wonder how many different paintings there are, since doing the same few over and over would suck ass. One of the things I loved about holding the paintbrush in that mini-game is that when you wiggled your controller, the brush tip would wiggle too, and you'd feel a slight wobble from the rumble motor in the Move controller for a split second. A very awesome effect. I'm not sure this would be a purchase for me at $40 since it is just mini-games, but who knows.

Eyepet - I was a lot more impressed with this one than I thought I'd be. It's definitely geared towards the kiddies and I can't see myself ever buying this, but the demo was great. I set up the floor as instructed and it really did look like the little guy was running around on my floor. It's unfortunate that the pet is rendered in great 3D but the camera is showing very poor grainy VGA quality video. At first it was very distracting, but after a while I was able to forget about the video quality and focus on my pet.

I thought it's responses were great, but I got stuck for about 5 minutes when he tells you to wiggle your fingers so he'll pounce. I just about gave up and quit the demo before it finally worked. I don't know what I did, but I think it had something to do with taking the Move controller off-screen so the pet would focus better. The interactive sequences worked fine and showcased more great virtual items being placed on your Move controller on-screen.

My wife was pretty enamored with the little guy and she was actually disappointed when the demo ended. This definitely isn't a game for us though, but if you have kids, it doesn't appear that you can go wrong with this one.

Time Crisis - I was really looking forward to this one, but came away unimpressed. First, the graphics appears to be PS2 quality and are very, very poor. Second, my calibration was a bit off but I'm thinking that maybe I can just compensate next time (if there is a next time). There wasn't really any depth to this demo, you just fly on trails through a level and shoot, typical Time Crisis fare. I'm curious if the Sony gun peripheral would make this more fun. I went from definite purchase to not looking forward to it after playing the demo.

The Shoot - This was definitely fun, I like the premise. The controls worked great, but like Time Crisis above, I think it might be more fun with the gun peripheral if it is made well. I'm looking forward to this game now after not knowing anything about it beforehand.

Racquet Sports - After playing table tennis in Sports Champions, this game just sucks. I can say that Racquet Sports feels very much like a Wii game in that it's made for very simple motion controls. It doesn't appear to do anything other than wait for you to swing. No racket tilting for space, no control to place shots, nothing. I honestly wouldn't take this one if somebody tried to give it to me.

Tumble - I didn't play too much (just the tutorial and first level), but I thought it was a great demo for the Move. I actually bought the full game this morning and it's downloading as I type. I wasn't too good at the controls but I think it requires a bit of finese and touch that you only gain from playing. I can only imagine some of the crazy stuff you have to try in the full game. From the demo, it gives you blocks and other shapes that you need to stack as high as you can. Difficult yet fun with the control.

End of demos.

So that's about it, sorry for the book, but I'm really impressed with the hardware. For my money, Sports Champions and Tumble are must buys, but I'm having trouble seeing anything else standing out, worthy of my money. I don't personally think traditional first/third person shooters and motion controls go good together, so I have no interest in even trying Resident Evil 5 Gold or MAG. Supposedly Planet Minigolf is pretty good, but even though it gives you a demo under the Move section on the Playstation Store, the demo isn't actually Move compatible, just the full game.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

thanks for the review. some questions i'd like to ask.

1. can you get away with just 1 move controller for sports champion, or will you need 2 for maximum enjoyment?
for 2 players, does that mean i'll need 4?

2. i read it detects depth (z axis) by judging the size of the glowing ball. for games like volleyball, do you run forward/back/left/right to get too the ball, or do you use the dpad/joystick to control on-screen player movement?
or worse yet, does the player move on its own (like wii tennis) to get as close to the ball as possible?

3. how do you play 2 player ping pong when the POV is first person?

4. do you, like other reviewers, feel that the 640*480 camera res is holding the platform back? and if so, they will release an updated camera down the road, or for the Move2?

5. pics/videos of the wife playing with the move?

6. would you recommend others getting the Move? or do you feel like it will be Wii with better graphics and no developer support in the future?

 

[rcpratt]

Thanks for the long post.

Just got this but haven't used it yet. So the bundle only came with a single motion controller - do you need the navigation controller to fully experience all of Sports Champions? That's annoying, if so.

Haven't had much time to read up on this yet, but do you have the choice of using two motion controllers instead of one motion controller and one navigation? Should I get 4 motion controllers or 2 motion and 2 navigation?

 

[blurredvision]

thanks for the review. some questions i'd like to ask.

1. can you get away with just 1 move controller for sports champion, or will you need 2 for maximum enjoyment?
for 2 players, does that mean i'll need 4?

2. i read it detects depth (z axis) by judging the size of the glowing ball. for games like volleyball, do you run forward/back/left/right to get too the ball, or do you use the dpad/joystick to control on-screen player movement?
or worse yet, does the player move on its own (like wii tennis) to get as close to the ball as possible?

3. how do you play 2 player ping pong when the POV is first person?

4. do you, like other reviewers, feel that the 640*480 camera res is holding the platform back? and if so, they will release an updated camera down the road, or for the Move2?

5. pics/videos of the wife playing with the move?

6. would you recommend others getting the Move? or do you feel like it will be Wii with better graphics and no developer support in the future?

Answers:

1. You can get away with just one controller for pretty much all single-player except Gladiator. It's just a lot more fun having control of both your shield and weapon at the same time with two controllers rather than doing double-duty with one controller. You don't *need* two Move controllers though, it's just more fun with two. The only other two games in Sports Champions that lets a single user use two Move controllers is volleyball and archery, and I personally didn't find either lacking with just one controller.

As far as multiplayer is concerned, the above still applies. I just don't see Gladiator being as fun with multiplayer if you didn't have 2 Move controllers for each person, but that's just my personal opinion. If you plan on playing multiplayer with Sports Champions, the only games you can get away with owning just one Move controller is Disc Golf and Bocce, since you can pass it between players for each turn.

2. With Volleyball, the game moves your player for you, you're just tasked with making the correct motion at the proper time. There are 3 different serves you can do based on your motion with the controller, lobs, spikes, blocks, digs and whatever else are up to you, but the game puts you in place to do them. IMO, Volleyball is probably the worst example in SC in regards to the Move capabilities, it definitely doesn't feel that much refined over a Wii game in regards of control. One caveat to this whole paragraph though is that I've only played this mode on the easiest setting and with my wife. I've not put much time into it at all.

On the same note, Gladiator also moves your player for you, but you have the ability to side-step and hop back at will. It's the same as seen in boxing with Wii Sports pretty much.

3. Split-screen. It works very well, too. Before you get into the game, it will have each person stand in a particular spot and calibrate their controller. My wife and I were able to both comfortably stand about 5 feet from the camera, properly calibrate, and didn't have any issues with hitting each other while playing.

4. In low light, the video quality is incredibly bad, so I'd say that it definitely could potentially hold the system back. With proper lighting, it's passable though. When playing the Eyepet demo, I remember the video looking horrible, but when playing the Start the Party demo, I didn't really have any issues with it (it was still poor, though). The camera automatically adjusts its exposure when calibrating so it can properly detect the glowing ball, so I think experiences are going to be very different.

I'd personally love to see a higher-res camera introduced, I think it would add a lot.

5. No videos or pics, sorry.

6. I definitely recommend it, but I am somewhat concerned about the support coming in the future. I'm more of a here-and-now kind of guy though and I love what it offers currently. If you're the kind of person who wants to see some evidence of upcoming software to support your investment, then I wouldn't blame you for hesitation. The only big things I really know about coming up are Time Crisis, The Shoot (which the demo was fun), and Killzone 3 integration when it launches early next year. Other than that, I don't know what the future holds.

If you were to play Table Tennis and Tumble, then you'd easily see this is a huge jump over what Wii offers. It's definitely more than just Wii HD. But if you play SC Volleyball or Racquet Sports, then it's definitely just Wii HD and not particularly worth it.

 

[blurredvision]

Thanks for the long post.

Just got this but haven't used it yet. So the bundle only came with a single motion controller - do you need the navigation controller to fully experience all of Sports Champions? That's annoying, if so.

Haven't had much time to read up on this yet, but do you have the choice of using two motion controllers instead of one motion controller and one navigation? Should I get 4 motion controllers or 2 motion and 2 navigation?

If I were you, I wouldn't even bother with the navigation controller right now. Absolutely zero games in Sports Champions uses it. The myriad of demos I've played don't need it. The only game that I've read that can use it right now is Resident Evil 5 Gold, and even then you can literally just hold a dualshock in your lap and use it. The $30 navigation controller is simply half a dualshock without ANY motion sensors whatsoever. It's basically just an analog stick for those who don't find it comfortable to use the dualshock with one hand.

Without a doubt, if you're going to spend the money, get 4 Move controllers and skip the navigation controllers.

 

[rcpratt]

Hmm, that's pretty cool. It feels smoother, more accurate, and pretty much all around better than the Wii...even with the MotionPlus.

Only tried table tennis so far, but that is pretty fun. Took a little getting used to for sure. You know it's accurate because just like real life, my backhand is WAY better than my forehand. I must not have it down quite right, because I really struggle to avoid putting backspin on my forehand.

 

[Tom]

Since this thread is full of Wii I thought I'd point out the Wii costs half as much, comes with a remote and nunchuck; and the table tennis game that's part of the included Wii Sports Resort has all the same motions and accuracy as the Move game described above.

Now I'm not saying there'sa nything wrong with Move, or that the extra cost doesn't buy something, but somebody needed to post some truth about the Wii..

 

[blurredvision]

Since this thread is full of Wii I thought I'd point out the Wii costs half as much, comes with a remote and nunchuck

But the PS3 has better media options, blu-ray, is more powerful, and already has a huge stable of quality games for the more mature gamer who prefers to use a "regular" controller. It doesn't force you into motion control for every single game unlike the Wii, which has to use motion even for games that completely suck with it.

Both systems offer an appropriate value for what each offers IMO.

and the table tennis game that's part of the included Wii Sports Resort has all the same motions and accuracy as the Move game described above.

If you haven't played Sports Champions, then you have no place to comment. I've never used WM+, so I don't have any comments on how it compares to WSR, but when compared to the original Wii Sports, Move blows it completely out of the water.

 

[Tom]

I didn't compare the game, I said it has the same movements and accuracy, which it does.

The Wii remote functions as a regular controller, not all Wii games use motion control.

The PS3 doesn't have a huge stable of games..and the Wii probably has more exclusive killing titles for "mature" gamers, even though I don't consider killing games or foul language, "mature".

Media options, PS3 has Blu-ray, Wii has Opera web browser. Did PS3 get that yet ? Both have Netflix, PS3 is more of a replacement for a pc media center though.

I agree they're both good values if someone wants their respective features.

I also think Move has possibilites, but I doubt they'll be realized fully because the small market won't justify game design.

 

[Beev]

I didn't compare the game, I said it has the same movements and accuracy, which it does.

The Wii remote functions as a regular controller, not all Wii games use motion control.

This is almost ONLY true for "simple" games, like New Super Mario Bros.

The PS3 doesn't have a huge stable of games..and the Wii probably has more exclusive killing titles for "mature" gamers, even though I don't consider killing games or foul language, "mature".

Troll, troll, troll your boat? Both systems have a TON of games, but you're just flat out wrong about the Wii having more "mature" titles. I think mature was just the wrong word to use. I enjoyed Mario Galaxy a lot, but it is by no means a mature game. It's just good fun. Likewise, God of War is awesome and can be considered mature. The Wii and DS are both shovelware systems, and most of the good games are first party. There are not a lot of third party "killer apps," unlike the PS3 (and 360).

Media options, PS3 has Blu-ray, Wii has Opera web browser. Did PS3 get that yet ? Both have Netflix, PS3 is more of a replacement for a pc media center though.

PS3 has had a web browser. I definitely use my PS3 as a media streamer as you say. I use it practically every day and I would say only 1/4 of that time is for gaming. What else could my Wii have done?

I also think Move has possibilities, but I doubt they'll be realized fully because the small market won't justify game design.

100% agree. The market will be too tiny to matter, same for the Kinect. There will never, ever, EVER be a killer app for the Move or Kinect, because neither company would want to alienate their base audience and lower sales.

 

[purbeast0]

looks like we have a butthurt wii fanboy in the house!

 

[blurredvision]

I didn't compare the game, I said it has the same movements and accuracy, which it does.

I wasn't talking about comparing the games, just the actual capabilities of the hardware. With what the Move is capable of as evidenced in Sports Champions and Tumble, the original Wii design can't even begin to get close in terms of accuracy, responsiveness, and control. I've never used WM+ though, but I'm interested to see how it compares.

Can the WM+ even be tracked in space like Move can? For example, with ping pong in Wii Sports Resort, do you have to move forward and backwards to hit balls, or it simply limited to swinging at the right time while you sit/stand in place?

Maybe I should take a couple of quick videos with my phone tonight showing the responsiveness of the Move controller in Table Tennis. Somebody with the WM+ should do the same. I'm not really interested in arguing Move versus Wii here if it's just doing to degrade to "Wii is cheaper, Move sucks".

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

I wasn't talking about comparing the games, just the actual capabilities of the hardware. With what the Move is capable of as evidenced in Sports Champions and Tumble, the original Wii design can't even begin to get close in terms of accuracy, responsiveness, and control. I've never used WM+ though, but I'm interested to see how it compares.

Can the WM+ even be tracked in space like Move can? For example, with ping pong in Wii Sports Resort, do you have to move forward and backwards to hit balls, or it simply limited to swinging at the right time while you sit/stand in place?

Maybe I should take a couple of quick videos with my phone tonight showing the responsiveness of the Move controller in Table Tennis. Somebody with the WM+ should do the same. I'm not really interested in arguing Move versus Wii here if it's just doing to degrade to "Wii is cheaper, Move sucks".

i have a Wii and table tennis is only about swinging at the right time IIRC (maybe you could tilt as well). but there is no realism or accuracy to it.
i played it only once because it didn't feel realistic at all. i think it came free with the wii controller so no big loss if i never play it again.

now i haven't played Move yet, but from what i see based on the editor and video reviews, it seems a lot more like the real thing.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Since this thread is full of Wii I thought I'd point out the Wii costs half as much, comes with a remote and nunchuck; and the table tennis game that's part of the included Wii Sports Resort has all the same motions and accuracy as the Move game described above.

Now I'm not saying there'sa nything wrong with Move, or that the extra cost doesn't buy something, but somebody needed to post some truth about the Wii..

bolded part is completely false.

 

[purbeast0]

bolded part is completely false.

to be fair there are 2 table tennis games for wii ... one in wii sports, and one in wii sports resort.

the one in the latter uses the M+ technology which is more accurate htan the default wii controller.

from your post right above the one i quoted, i would think that you played the normal wii sports one, not the one that uses M+

that said, i still htink it is false because from what i've heard (no first hand experience yet) the move is much more accurate than anything the wii or wii m+ can provide.

 

[rcpratt]

I wasn't talking about comparing the games, just the actual capabilities of the hardware. With what the Move is capable of as evidenced in Sports Champions and Tumble, the original Wii design can't even begin to get close in terms of accuracy, responsiveness, and control. I've never used WM+ though, but I'm interested to see how it compares.

Can the WM+ even be tracked in space like Move can? For example, with ping pong in Wii Sports Resort, do you have to move forward and backwards to hit balls, or it simply limited to swinging at the right time while you sit/stand in place?

Maybe I should take a couple of quick videos with my phone tonight showing the responsiveness of the Move controller in Table Tennis. Somebody with the WM+ should do the same. I'm not really interested in arguing Move versus Wii here if it's just doing to degrade to "Wii is cheaper, Move sucks".

IIRC, it has the same tilt abilities with the WM+ on that table tennis game, but not the ability to be tracked in space. So it's basically impossible to miss the ball if you swing at the right time and with the paddle facing the correct way (forehand/backhand). Moving forward is pretty limited to occurring if you hit overhand, I believe.

It's been awhile since I used the WM+, but the move just felt much smoother, more accurate, and more responsive.

 

[Tom]

"but you're just flat out wrong about the Wii having more "mature" titles. "

I said "exclusive" meaning ps3 games not on the pc or xbox, compared to Wii exclusives. Not sure if all of these are Wii exclusives but I think they are or have unique controls on the Wii.

Red Steel 2
No More Heroes 1 and 2
Resident Evil 4
Resident Evul:Umbrella Chronicles
Manhunt 2
Madworld
Ghost Squad
Okami
House of the Dead games
Dead Space
Cursed Mountain
the Conduit
Godfather Blackhand

 

[KentState]

Our Wii has been used very little since we purchased it so I doubt I will buy another motion capture add-on until the games become must haves.

 

[Beev]

"but you're just flat out wrong about the Wii having more "mature" titles. "

I said "exclusive" meaning ps3 games not on the pc or xbox, compared to Wii exclusives. Not sure if all of these are Wii exclusives but I think they are or have unique controls on the Wii.

Red Steel 2
No More Heroes 1 and 2
Resident Evil 4 (not exclusive)
Resident Evul:Umbrella Chronicles
Manhunt 2 (not exclusive)
Madworld
Ghost Squad
Okami
House of the Dead games (not exclusive)
Dead Space (not exclusive)
Cursed Mountain
the Conduit
Godfather Blackhand (not exclusive)

So basically, you're arguing that the Wii has more exclusives in general, or ones aimed at adults? The former is true, the latter is not. The Wii, as a whole, is aimed at kids. Not that there's anything wrong with that, as I said before I loved Mario Galaxy, and I'm really looking forward to DKCR, but to claim it has more aimed at the mature audience than the PS3 is just ridiculous.

 

[blurredvision]

A game list for the Move:

https://sites.google.com/site/iwaggle3dgamelist/gamelist

 

[zerocool84]

I'm going to my brother's tonight to play with it.

 

[Narmer]

to be fair there are 2 table tennis games for wii ... one in wii sports, and one in wii sports resort.

the one in the latter uses the M+ technology which is more accurate htan the default wii controller.

from your post right above the one i quoted, i would think that you played the normal wii sports one, not the one that uses M+

that said, i still htink it is false because from what i've heard (no first hand experience yet) the move is much more accurate than anything the wii or wii m+ can provide.

I think you meant Wii Play...

I have a question regarding Sony Move games: can you play them online with other people?

I have a Wii here and it has been a disappointment because it is rarely played. If I could play Wii Sports with other people online I'd get more usage out of it.

 

[rcpratt]

Put in a bit more time with this tonight.

First of all - this is fucking AWESOME.

Played a little more ping-pong, beat the bronze cup or whatever it's called, moved on to silver. Much more realistic there in terms of paddle placement, swing timing, etc. Feels VERY natural, just takes some getting used to after I got lazy playing bronze.

Also played a few games of the gladiator game. With two motion controllers, it feels SO cool. It's awesome to feel like you have complete control over both of your arms. Definitely makes you sweat if you get into it. But comparing this to Wii sports boxing or something would be laughable. All kinds of cool stuff like raising the controllers to do a jump attack, dodging one direction or another by pushing the button on either controller, shield slamming with your left hand...and those were only the tutorials for the first two matches. I could see some very, very cool hand-to-hand combat games in the future for this. I mean, holy crap, the thought of a star wars game has me hard right now. Lightsabering with this would be awesome.

Me likey.

 

[zerocool84]

Finally played it tonight. Very fun but of course right now it's the same as the Wii, too gimmicky to be any real threat to any gaming. Bocce ball is my favorite though.