Who's going to win the Apprentice tonight?

[PlatinumGold]

am i the only one that thought Randall's english wasn't very good.

it definitely wasn't polished. the past apprentices all were more gifted verbally.

not to say randall wasn't intelligent or gifted, he is, it is just in the area of speech he seems to be a bit lacking.

, although his line "apprentice not apprentii" was very nicely done.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: rpl318
How can you expect Randal to support the decision to hire Rebecca when he just spent the last 10 minutes stating why she SHOULDNT be the apprentice? I would have questioned his judgement had he suggested she be hired. Randal made the right decision as he truly didn't feel she was ready for the position. You don't just give someone a job out of charity.

QFT

Sorry, I don't buy it. Randal should have recognized that Trump obviously felt that she was ready, and since Randal's only reasons for not hiring her when asked by Trump were "there can only be one Apprentice... blah blah blah", it had nothing to do with his actual evaluation of her. It was plain as day that he simply didn't want to share the spotlight. I know he just spent the previous ten minutes explaining why he should be hired instead of her, but his motivation at that point was simply to get hired. But now that he had, in fact, been hired, that was all moot.

If you're going to defend Randal, then be honest about with yourself about it. Defend him because you think he was justified in not sharing the glory, not because he honestly felt she wasn't ready for it. Because when asked by Trump if she should be hired, I didn't hear a word about how she wasn't qualified enough. He spoke strictly from the competition perspective of the show; though I happen to disagree with that, too. The competition was over at that point. He was hired. She was absolutely, positively no longer a competitive threat to him.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
am i the only one that thought Randall's english wasn't very good.

it definitely wasn't polished. the past apprentices all were more gifted verbally.

not to say randall wasn't intelligent or gifted, he is, it is just in the area of speech he seems to be a bit lacking.

, although his line "apprentice not apprentii" was very nicely done.

Hmm... I didn't pick up on that. I thought he was well-spoken with the exception of the fact that he spoke way too fast. But, that's probably because when Trump asks you a question, you have about 2.6883 seconds to answer it, so you better fit in as much as you can. In fact, at one point Trump asked for 3 reasons why he should hire Randal. Randel spun out reason 1 at 200mph, and Trump didn't even let him get to reason 2 LOL.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
am i the only one that thought Randall's english wasn't very good.

it definitely wasn't polished. the past apprentices all were more gifted verbally.

not to say randall wasn't intelligent or gifted, he is, it is just in the area of speech he seems to be a bit lacking.

, although his line "apprentice not apprentii" was very nicely done.

Hmm... I didn't pick up on that. I thought he was well-spoken with the exception of the fact that he spoke way too fast. But, that's probably because when Trump asks you a question, you have about 2.6883 seconds to answer it, so you better fit in as much as you can. In fact, at one point Trump asked for 3 reasons why he should hire Randal. Randel spun out reason 1 at 200mph, and Trump didn't even let him get to reason 2 LOL.

his phrasings are very awkward. his choices of words sometimes don't make sense. he often uses "sayings" or quotes incorrectly. there was one he used last night that is on the tip of my tongue but escapes me.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob

Originally posted by: gotsmack

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: DonVito
That was tacky of Randal IMO. Rebecca must want to slit his throat.

Do you think that Trump would have given her the job?

yes, why else would he have asked?

I don't know... "The Donald" has been a little emotionally unstable this season. Randal might have been worried that he'd say "OK, I changed my mind, and I'm hiring her instead!" if he started sticking up for her.

Yeah, one thing I've noticed about the board room is that blame shifting gets you a lot further there then admitting your mistakes and responsibility.

 

[rpl318]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: rpl318
How can you expect Randal to support the decision to hire Rebecca when he just spent the last 10 minutes stating why she SHOULDNT be the apprentice? I would have questioned his judgement had he suggested she be hired. Randal made the right decision as he truly didn't feel she was ready for the position. You don't just give someone a job out of charity.

QFT

Sorry, I don't buy it. Randal should have recognized that Trump obviously felt that she was ready, and since Randal's only reasons for not hiring her when asked by Trump were "there can only be one Apprentice... blah blah blah", it had nothing to do with his actual evaluation of her. It was plain as day that he simply didn't want to share the spotlight. I know he just spent the previous ten minutes explaining why he should be hired instead of her, but his motivation at that point was simply to get hired. But now that he had, in fact, been hired, that was all moot.

If you're going to defend Randal, then be honest about with yourself about it. Defend him because you think he was justified in not sharing the glory, not because he honestly felt she wasn't ready for it. Because when asked by Trump if she should be hired, I didn't hear a word about how she wasn't qualified enough. He spoke strictly from the competition perspective of the show; though I happen to disagree with that, too. The competition was over at that point. He was hired. She was absolutely, positively no longer a competitive threat to him.

You should watch the replay my friend. Randal made several comments about Rebecca not being qualified enough including "Rebecca write's about business, I run businesses". How do you endorse somebody after saying that about them?

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: rpl318

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: rpl318
How can you expect Randal to support the decision to hire Rebecca when he just spent the last 10 minutes stating why she SHOULDNT be the apprentice? I would have questioned his judgement had he suggested she be hired. Randal made the right decision as he truly didn't feel she was ready for the position. You don't just give someone a job out of charity.

QFT

Sorry, I don't buy it. Randal should have recognized that Trump obviously felt that she was ready, and since Randal's only reasons for not hiring her when asked by Trump were "there can only be one Apprentice... blah blah blah", it had nothing to do with his actual evaluation of her. It was plain as day that he simply didn't want to share the spotlight. I know he just spent the previous ten minutes explaining why he should be hired instead of her, but his motivation at that point was simply to get hired. But now that he had, in fact, been hired, that was all moot.

If you're going to defend Randal, then be honest about with yourself about it. Defend him because you think he was justified in not sharing the glory, not because he honestly felt she wasn't ready for it. Because when asked by Trump if she should be hired, I didn't hear a word about how she wasn't qualified enough. He spoke strictly from the competition perspective of the show; though I happen to disagree with that, too. The competition was over at that point. He was hired. She was absolutely, positively no longer a competitive threat to him.

You should watch the replay my friend. Randal made several comments about Rebecca not being qualified enough including "Rebecca write's about business, I run businesses". How do you endorse somebody after saying that about them?

Not to mention Rebecca stated that Randall didn't know how to focus on the task at hand and that he didn't know what was important when it came to accomplishing a task...to which Randall responded with I was 3-0, you were 1-2. That pretty much shut her down.

The dude has degrees up the ying yang with top marks from all AND runs his own consulting firm...and he lacks focus?

 

[NFS4]

Rebecca is on the Today show right now and she said that if the tables were turned, she would have hired Randall.

On top of that, Yahoo execs just approached her for a job opportunity on the same segment.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: rpl318

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: rpl318
How can you expect Randal to support the decision to hire Rebecca when he just spent the last 10 minutes stating why she SHOULDNT be the apprentice? I would have questioned his judgement had he suggested she be hired. Randal made the right decision as he truly didn't feel she was ready for the position. You don't just give someone a job out of charity.

QFT

Sorry, I don't buy it. Randal should have recognized that Trump obviously felt that she was ready, and since Randal's only reasons for not hiring her when asked by Trump were "there can only be one Apprentice... blah blah blah", it had nothing to do with his actual evaluation of her. It was plain as day that he simply didn't want to share the spotlight. I know he just spent the previous ten minutes explaining why he should be hired instead of her, but his motivation at that point was simply to get hired. But now that he had, in fact, been hired, that was all moot.

If you're going to defend Randal, then be honest about with yourself about it. Defend him because you think he was justified in not sharing the glory, not because he honestly felt she wasn't ready for it. Because when asked by Trump if she should be hired, I didn't hear a word about how she wasn't qualified enough. He spoke strictly from the competition perspective of the show; though I happen to disagree with that, too. The competition was over at that point. He was hired. She was absolutely, positively no longer a competitive threat to him.

You should watch the replay my friend. Randal made several comments about Rebecca not being qualified enough including "Rebecca write's about business, I run businesses". How do you endorse somebody after saying that about them?

no, those were reasons HE should be the apprentice and not her they are NOT reasons that she is undeserving.

you guys just don't see it. just because he can argue that he is better than her does not mean she is completely unworthy, it just means he's better than her.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: rpl318

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: rpl318
How can you expect Randal to support the decision to hire Rebecca when he just spent the last 10 minutes stating why she SHOULDNT be the apprentice? I would have questioned his judgement had he suggested she be hired. Randal made the right decision as he truly didn't feel she was ready for the position. You don't just give someone a job out of charity.

QFT

Sorry, I don't buy it. Randal should have recognized that Trump obviously felt that she was ready, and since Randal's only reasons for not hiring her when asked by Trump were "there can only be one Apprentice... blah blah blah", it had nothing to do with his actual evaluation of her. It was plain as day that he simply didn't want to share the spotlight. I know he just spent the previous ten minutes explaining why he should be hired instead of her, but his motivation at that point was simply to get hired. But now that he had, in fact, been hired, that was all moot.

If you're going to defend Randal, then be honest about with yourself about it. Defend him because you think he was justified in not sharing the glory, not because he honestly felt she wasn't ready for it. Because when asked by Trump if she should be hired, I didn't hear a word about how she wasn't qualified enough. He spoke strictly from the competition perspective of the show; though I happen to disagree with that, too. The competition was over at that point. He was hired. She was absolutely, positively no longer a competitive threat to him.

You should watch the replay my friend. Randal made several comments about Rebecca not being qualified enough including "Rebecca write's about business, I run businesses". How do you endorse somebody after saying that about them?

I addressed the fact that he made those comments... You should read my post again my friend .

He said that in the context of "why should I hire you over Rebecca". The two were fighting for their lives at the point. But when Trump posed the question "should I hire Rebecca, too", his answers were strictly centered around "It's the APPRENTICE, not APPRENTII... there can only be one". To me that just smacks of him not wanting to share the glory. That's what I meant when I said "if you're going to defend him, be honest about it."

Don't get me wrong: Randal was certainly the more qualified of the two, but like someone else pointed out, Rebecca has a TON of potential, and Randal effectively denied her a golden opportunity to make a giant stride toward reaching it... and it would have cost him nothing other than sharing the limelight. And it's not like Trump would have thought less of him for not shooting her down... Trump was quite obviously very eager to hire her, and quite obviously disappointed that Randal handled it the way he did.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: rpl318

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: rpl318
How can you expect Randal to support the decision to hire Rebecca when he just spent the last 10 minutes stating why she SHOULDNT be the apprentice? I would have questioned his judgement had he suggested she be hired. Randal made the right decision as he truly didn't feel she was ready for the position. You don't just give someone a job out of charity.

QFT

Sorry, I don't buy it. Randal should have recognized that Trump obviously felt that she was ready, and since Randal's only reasons for not hiring her when asked by Trump were "there can only be one Apprentice... blah blah blah", it had nothing to do with his actual evaluation of her. It was plain as day that he simply didn't want to share the spotlight. I know he just spent the previous ten minutes explaining why he should be hired instead of her, but his motivation at that point was simply to get hired. But now that he had, in fact, been hired, that was all moot.

If you're going to defend Randal, then be honest about with yourself about it. Defend him because you think he was justified in not sharing the glory, not because he honestly felt she wasn't ready for it. Because when asked by Trump if she should be hired, I didn't hear a word about how she wasn't qualified enough. He spoke strictly from the competition perspective of the show; though I happen to disagree with that, too. The competition was over at that point. He was hired. She was absolutely, positively no longer a competitive threat to him.

You should watch the replay my friend. Randal made several comments about Rebecca not being qualified enough including "Rebecca write's about business, I run businesses". How do you endorse somebody after saying that about them?

no, those were reasons HE should be the apprentice and not her they are NOT reasons that she is undeserving.

you guys just don't see it. just because he can argue that he is better than her does not mean she is completely unworthy, it just means he's better than her.

EXACTLY

 

[Qwest]

anyone going to have caps of the today show?

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: rpl318

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: rpl318
How can you expect Randal to support the decision to hire Rebecca when he just spent the last 10 minutes stating why she SHOULDNT be the apprentice? I would have questioned his judgement had he suggested she be hired. Randal made the right decision as he truly didn't feel she was ready for the position. You don't just give someone a job out of charity.

QFT

Sorry, I don't buy it. Randal should have recognized that Trump obviously felt that she was ready, and since Randal's only reasons for not hiring her when asked by Trump were "there can only be one Apprentice... blah blah blah", it had nothing to do with his actual evaluation of her. It was plain as day that he simply didn't want to share the spotlight. I know he just spent the previous ten minutes explaining why he should be hired instead of her, but his motivation at that point was simply to get hired. But now that he had, in fact, been hired, that was all moot.

If you're going to defend Randal, then be honest about with yourself about it. Defend him because you think he was justified in not sharing the glory, not because he honestly felt she wasn't ready for it. Because when asked by Trump if she should be hired, I didn't hear a word about how she wasn't qualified enough. He spoke strictly from the competition perspective of the show; though I happen to disagree with that, too. The competition was over at that point. He was hired. She was absolutely, positively no longer a competitive threat to him.

You should watch the replay my friend. Randal made several comments about Rebecca not being qualified enough including "Rebecca write's about business, I run businesses". How do you endorse somebody after saying that about them?

I addressed the fact that he made those comments... You should read my post again my friend .

He said that in the context of "why should I hire you over Rebecca". The two were fighting for their lives at the point. But when Trump posed the question "should I hire Rebecca, too", his answers were strictly centered around "It's the APPRENTICE, not APPRENTII... there can only be one". To me that just smacks of him not wanting to share the glory. That's what I meant when I said "if you're going to defend him, be honest about it."

Don't get me wrong: Randal was certainly the more qualified of the two, but like someone else pointed out, Rebecca has a TON of potential, and Randal effectively denied her a golden opportunity to make a giant stride toward reaching it... and it would have cost him nothing other than sharing the limelight. And it's not like Trump would have thought less of him for not shooting her down... Trump was quite obviously very eager to hire her, and quite obviously disappointed that Randal handled it the way he did.

At least he said "Apprentii" and not "Apprentisies" heheheh.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: Qwest
anyone going to have caps of the today show?

I think Randal should bend Rebecca over on Live TV.

Again.

 

[rh71]

haven't read any of this thread because I didn't see the finale last night... ccan't find it for d/l yet either.

 

[thereds]

Why isn't there a torrent of the episode out yet?

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: rh71
haven't read any of this thread because I didn't see the finale last night...

And this prompted you to post?

 

Randall is a really bright guy, well educated and all, and I am sure he runs his own business really well, but he has zero creativity and fails to grasp the big picture. Remember the recording artist promo poster he made with the ghetto-ass picture of the singer? He focuses too much on the details but can't steer the whole vessel. Aw, screw it, most anyone on that season is a better business person than me so... whatever.

 

[codeyf]

I pretty much agree with the sentiment that Randall failed in the first task asked of my by Trump as a Trump employee.

With that said, my wife and I were talking about it afterward. I commented that the competition is similar to what happens at the end of American Idol. I actually feel the runner up is in a better situation. Not discounting working for Trump, Rebecca will pretty much be able to pick and choose among dozens of job offers. Where as Randall, while definitely not a loser in any sense, has no choice. I have no doubt that if Rebecca wanted to, she could still get hired by Trump. But if you had a dozen other job offers lined up with just as prestigeous companies, making just as much if not more, would you choose Trump, well, just because of the Don?? If you don't give in to the "Donald Trump is omfgwtfbbqr0x0rmyb0x0r" hype, you'd see that Rebecca is the real winner.

 

[Ausm]

I thought Randall had more class then that well obviously not....



Ausm

 

[saahmed]

If he would have agreed to hire Rebecca then all of the other contestants should have been hired. The fact is that she lost. Just like all the others she lost. So, it is okay if she gets hired by Trump later, but this win is for Randall, and Randall only. And anyway, she is going to end up getting a higher paid job most likely. All of the Apprentice candidates will likely end up getting good jobs.

 

[FreshPrince]

everyone says trump wants to hire rebecca, but I say that as he wanted Randal to hire her.

I've would've told trump to let me hire her.

 

[SilentZero]

He did the right thing, and the most deserving won.

/Thread

 

[rh71]

I still haven't read any of this thread... because I still haven't seen the ep and don't want it spoiled. If someone could tell me where to find the episode up for grabs, please PM me. Thanks.

If you know why it's not available on torrent sites, I'd like to know too (I am only reading quotes to my posts, should there be any).

 

[ManSnake]

It's showing on CNBC right now.