Aww, Balla's gone off the deep end and is calling everyone that doesn't absolutely agree with him AMD fanboy conspirators against 470 greatness again
Nobody is arguing that the 470s aren't working out great
for you. It's just that your case is so extremely specific, that it's pretty hard to suggest it for anyone else.
You're taking already power hungry cards (the 7970 you like to deride pulls less than a 470), buying them used, overclocking and overvolting them a ton, Watercooling them and running them in tri-sli. Two of these at the same time already limits the appeal to enthusiasts only. Three is pretty uncommon even for enthusiasts. All five... well how many people do you know running a similar setup to yours?
We get it that you don't mind the numerous drawbacks and it works amazingly well for you. We're actually happy for you because tech and tweaking is fun! But when you proclaim the GTX470 the god king of the internet in every thread without any regard for the needs and wants of anyone else and then get defensive when someone disagrees, you come off as an asshole, which is why the card has pretty much become an in-joke around here.
Heh, no I'm calling it like I see it. I feel the 470 was and still is a decent card, though the reasons have changed slightly, initially they were relative to why people feel the 7970 is a good card currently. I'd be more inclined to agree if it wasn't for the simple fact that we're discussing $500 6850s and 560Ti's.
I never suggested anyone buy a 470 in this thread, or any other that I'm aware of.
I don't like to deride the 7970, I only apply the same broken logic that is applied to the 470 to it. It's not ironic at all that it's seen as trolling or poor logic when used against an AMD card. Watercooling never even came up in this thread, that was reference air I was showing.
Anand is filled with "almost" enthusiasts, but when it comes down to it they are just people who spent more money than they should and only went half way.
However many do doesn't really matter, this isn't a popularity contest it's a tech forum. Where talking about tech that isn't popular gets you called a troll
The drawbacks of a 470 are inherently the same as the 7970, hotter, louder, more power hungry than the 680. And for a time it was actually more expensive, all of these "draw backs" are easily handled by someone competent, let alone an actual enthusiast who knows what he's doing with hardware.
I never once said the 470 was the best card, or the end all be all card. The OP asked for a comparable card, I produced a comparable card at less than half the price. The problem started when AMD butthurt entered the equation. Is it not comparable? Performance wise it is, shown this I have. It does use more power, I've shown it's not as bad as many seem to believe, capable of hitting a 50% overclock on reference air. I've hit several key areas of comparability, performance, and overclocking. There are differences though, such as cost, the 7850 is considerably more, power draw is another, the 470 draws considerably more.
This place swings like a monkey in a tree with it comes to talking points, the downsides you "claim" for the 470 can be used against the 7970. I'm pretty sure most 7970 users have figured out a way to handle it's excessive heat when overclocked. Around and around we go. Power doesn't matter, I got a 7970 it's slightly faster than the 680 while using considerably more power but this is ok cause it's AMD! I don't like the 470 because it overclocks just was well as the 7850 and has comparable performance but unlike the 7970 it's not priced similar to the card it's competing with it's less than half the cost. Me no like this, me want AMD me has to change what I value noaw different situation that no longer favors AMD therefore new rules of argument.
In-joke around, at the joke tech forum of the web, seems fitting. A tech forum that can't discuss tech without being reduced to fanboy arguments, I laugh every time I come here. I'm not getting defensive, I'm getting lulz. Far more reputable tech sites have already placed the 470 in the area of the 8800 GTX, while not quite as good as that card, it's saying power and overclocking have made it a great card. Let's not get it confused though, it's a great card not the greatest or the only choice for all. This thread was simply asking for a comparable card, not a 28nm card, not a equal perf/w or perf/mm2 or any other topic points used over the last two years by AMD fanboys. Comparable means performance unless otherwise stated, I provided it first by offering my opinion on the 448 and 570, then later when the topic started to discuss price and I opted in with
my opinion that all current cards are overpriced. I gave my reasons for why I feel that way, and provided a comparable card for the 7850 as the OP requested. That is all, those are the facts. The rest of it is as I said, AMD butthurt.
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