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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: AMDStunna
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: AMDStunna
Originally posted by: dtyn
Originally posted by: Millennium
I guess I can post my mod list. 2000 Mustang GT Lentech 4r70w Full Saleen S351 Body Kit Steeda Cobra R Hood Performance Red FMS-4.10 Gears Eibach Pro Springs Tokico 5-way Shocks Flowmasters Off Road H-pipe Tranny Cooler 31 Spline Axles/Eaton diff. Steeda Subframes, Steeda Pullies, Steering Rack Bushings, Steeda lower control arms, Upper adjustable control arms, caster-camber plates Nitto Drag Radials SHM built 2V with ported polished heads 125 shot of nitrous(Holley NOSzle system) being upgraded to 250 soon JBA shorties 3200 Stall

Sexy car...track times? :)

High 12s?

No times but it won't be high 12's. Most likely lows 12's high 11's. But I don't bench race so I couldn't tell you for sure.

Auto or manual?
Lentech 4r70w
Auto built for the strip, and before the trolls start up yes they are FAR superior for drag racing, no question about it as all the fastest sanctions only use Auto's because of PROVEN lower ET's and far superior strength

But you said you don't race... ?

Huh? I said bench race. Do you not know what that is?
 

TrueBlueLS

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Okay... built auto and 125 of nitrous? I guess I could give you a 12.5 for that. That's still pretty quick and something I'd love to see for my car, but it'll take a lot of money and slicks.
 

Mill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: AMDStunna
Okay... built auto and 125 of nitrous? I guess I could give you a 12.5 for that. That's still pretty quick and something I'd love to see for my car, but it'll take a lot of money and slicks.

Umm... I guess you don't understand what exactly a SHM motor entails...

Each GT block is deburred, line honed, decked, honed oversize with deck plates and fitted with forged pistons, forged rods, main studs, head studs, trimetal rod and main bearings and high strength rings suitable for nitrous or blower applications. The cast crank is detailed and the rotating assembly is balanced. The shortblock receives a high volume oil pump pickup, windage tray and billet oil pump gears. Available in several compression rates. *note, does not contain headstuds or gaskets.

That is what all his engines have. Now in addition my specific engine:


New block with Cobra forged crank, SHM forged rods and pistons, topped with ported power improved heads. Available with stock cams or SHM billet cams, this engine is sold outright of all new components and is designed for naturally aspirated applications up to 400 HP and super charged or nitrous applications up to 650 HP.
 

skyking

Lifer
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'86 Mazda 626, 5 speed, 327,000 miles
Hey, I don't get it. No one is asking about the details of my 626
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EDIT: Oh, Millenium, I see where you get your performance. Everyone else has valves, but you've got the extra-special vavles!:p
 

TrueBlueLS

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: AMDStunna
What kind of angle are those valves done on?

I have a five angle vavle job.

Okay, maybe it's built up a little more than I expected. I'm just not impressed with Mustangs because of my infatuation with the F-Body. Mustangs used to be cool back from like 90-94 when Ford still made them with the 302ci 5.0L, but now that Ford switched over to the 4.6L crap... yeah. Go take that thing to the strip and let's see some timeslips for it.
 

WinkOsmosis

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: AMDStunna
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: AMDStunna
Originally posted by: dtyn
Originally posted by: Millennium
I guess I can post my mod list. 2000 Mustang GT Lentech 4r70w Full Saleen S351 Body Kit Steeda Cobra R Hood Performance Red FMS-4.10 Gears Eibach Pro Springs Tokico 5-way Shocks Flowmasters Off Road H-pipe Tranny Cooler 31 Spline Axles/Eaton diff. Steeda Subframes, Steeda Pullies, Steering Rack Bushings, Steeda lower control arms, Upper adjustable control arms, caster-camber plates Nitto Drag Radials SHM built 2V with ported polished heads 125 shot of nitrous(Holley NOSzle system) being upgraded to 250 soon JBA shorties 3200 Stall

Sexy car...track times? :)

High 12s?

No times but it won't be high 12's. Most likely lows 12's high 11's. But I don't bench race so I couldn't tell you for sure.

Auto or manual?
Lentech 4r70w
Auto built for the strip, and before the trolls start up yes they are FAR superior for drag racing, no question about it as all the fastest sanctions only use Auto's because of PROVEN lower ET's and far superior strength

But you said you don't race... ?

Huh? I said bench race. Do you not know what that is?

No... do you mean you just street race without a timer, or what?
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: AMDStunna
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: AMDStunna
Originally posted by: dtyn
Originally posted by: Millennium
I guess I can post my mod list. 2000 Mustang GT Lentech 4r70w Full Saleen S351 Body Kit Steeda Cobra R Hood Performance Red FMS-4.10 Gears Eibach Pro Springs Tokico 5-way Shocks Flowmasters Off Road H-pipe Tranny Cooler 31 Spline Axles/Eaton diff. Steeda Subframes, Steeda Pullies, Steering Rack Bushings, Steeda lower control arms, Upper adjustable control arms, caster-camber plates Nitto Drag Radials SHM built 2V with ported polished heads 125 shot of nitrous(Holley NOSzle system) being upgraded to 250 soon JBA shorties 3200 Stall

Sexy car...track times? :)

High 12s?

No times but it won't be high 12's. Most likely lows 12's high 11's. But I don't bench race so I couldn't tell you for sure.

Auto or manual?
Lentech 4r70w
Auto built for the strip, and before the trolls start up yes they are FAR superior for drag racing, no question about it as all the fastest sanctions only use Auto's because of PROVEN lower ET's and far superior strength

But you said you don't race... ?

Huh? I said bench race. Do you not know what that is?

No... do you mean you just street race without a timer, or what?

Dude, bench racing is sitting on your ass and liberally guessing what you would run. Hence the name bench racing.
 

Mill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: TrueBlueLS
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: AMDStunna
What kind of angle are those valves done on?

I have a five angle vavle job.

Okay, maybe it's built up a little more than I expected. I'm just not impressed with Mustangs because of my infatuation with the F-Body. Mustangs used to be cool back from like 90-94 when Ford still made them with the 302ci 5.0L, but now that Ford switched over to the 4.6L crap... yeah. Go take that thing to the strip and let's see some timeslips for it.

The 4.6 is actually a much better motor than the LS1 or 5.0. The LS1 cannot handle boost like the LT1 due to its higher compression. I know a guy running 16 lbs or boost on a stock cobra block and the valve covers have never been touched on his motor. BTW the 95 still had the 5.0 just as the 88-95s did. So what are your reasons for calling the 4.6 crap? I am interested in hearing this.
 

mAdD INDIAN

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: AMDStunna
Okay... built auto and 125 of nitrous? I guess I could give you a 12.5 for that. That's still pretty quick and something I'd love to see for my car, but it'll take a lot of money and slicks.

Umm... I guess you don't understand what exactly a SHM motor entails...

Each GT block is deburred, line honed, decked, honed oversize with deck plates and fitted with forged pistons, forged rods, main studs, head studs, trimetal rod and main bearings and high strength rings suitable for nitrous or blower applications. The cast crank is detailed and the rotating assembly is balanced. The shortblock receives a high volume oil pump pickup, windage tray and billet oil pump gears. Available in several compression rates. *note, does not contain headstuds or gaskets.

That is what all his engines have. Now in addition my specific engine:


New block with Cobra forged crank, SHM forged rods and pistons, topped with ported power improved heads. Available with stock cams or SHM billet cams, this engine is sold outright of all new components and is designed for naturally aspirated applications up to 400 HP and super charged or nitrous applications up to 650 HP.

That's insane! So you do buy the block from him, or just the parts and you assemble it yourself? How much did hte engine work alone cost? $10k?

Any pics of the engine bay or timeslips? It sounds like an awesome car.

 

Mill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: AMDStunna
Okay... built auto and 125 of nitrous? I guess I could give you a 12.5 for that. That's still pretty quick and something I'd love to see for my car, but it'll take a lot of money and slicks.

Umm... I guess you don't understand what exactly a SHM motor entails...

Each GT block is deburred, line honed, decked, honed oversize with deck plates and fitted with forged pistons, forged rods, main studs, head studs, trimetal rod and main bearings and high strength rings suitable for nitrous or blower applications. The cast crank is detailed and the rotating assembly is balanced. The shortblock receives a high volume oil pump pickup, windage tray and billet oil pump gears. Available in several compression rates. *note, does not contain headstuds or gaskets.

That is what all his engines have. Now in addition my specific engine:


New block with Cobra forged crank, SHM forged rods and pistons, topped with ported power improved heads. Available with stock cams or SHM billet cams, this engine is sold outright of all new components and is designed for naturally aspirated applications up to 400 HP and super charged or nitrous applications up to 650 HP.

That's insane! So you do buy the block from him, or just the parts and you assemble it yourself? How much did hte engine work alone cost? $10k?

Any pics of the engine bay or timeslips? It sounds like an awesome car.

Engine was about 7k and he installed it.

Engine
Trunk
Rear
Side
 

TrueBlueLS

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Originally posted by: Millennium
The 4.6 is actually a much better motor than the LS1 or 5.0. The LS1 cannot handle boost like the LT1 due to its higher compression. I know a guy running 16 lbs or boost on a stock cobra block and the valve covers have never been touched on his motor. BTW the 95 still had the 5.0 just as the 88-95s did. So what are your reasons for calling the 4.6 crap? I am interested in hearing this.

Pair up a brand new Mustang GT and Camaro Z28 both manual at the tree and see what happens. Although I believe running lower compression for boost is better, there are many cars out running higher compression along with boost.
 

boyRacer

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This thread is depressing... :( I was at a famliy new year's party last night and all my friends or cousins or whatever all had cars their parents bought them... except for me. Being a car nut and F1 fan and all... here i am driving a 1990 POS Plymouth 100HP, 2 ton, 4 door sedan. They were driving loaded G35s, Acura TLs... blah blah... and these guys don't even like cars. It was fine with me actually... it's always respectable to BUY your own car especially for a college student... but NOoOoOO... my dad buys himself a freakin loaded Sequioa last week which he never uses even now... geez... he could've at least split that thing and buy me a little civic or something. Oh well... back to saving up for my own car... sorry for my new year rant... :( It's just quite traumatizing... being a car lover from the age of 7 and seeing everyone get their own little car except for you... but i should be grateful i'm even driving. Sigh. :)
 

TrueBlueLS

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Originally posted by: BoYRaCeR
This thread is depressing... :( I was at a famliy new year's party last night and all my friends or cousins or whatever all had cars their parents bought them... except for me. Being a car nut and F1 fan and all... here i am driving a 1990 POS Plymouth 100HP, 2 ton, 4 door sedan. They were driving loaded G35s, Acura TLs... blah blah... and these guys don't even like cars. It was fine with me actually... it's always respectable to BUY your own car especially for a college student... but NOoOoOO... my dad buys himself a freakin loaded Sequioa last week which he never uses even now... geez... he could've at least split that thing and buy me a little civic or something. Oh well... back to saving up for my own car... sorry for my new year rant... :( It's just quite traumatizing... being a car lover from the age of 7 and seeing everyone get their own little car except for you... but i should be grateful i'm even driving. Sigh. :)

Go out and do what I did... sign your life to 5 years of payments. I kind of wish I didn't buy brand new sometimes because of the huge responsibilities it carries, but oh well. My main thing is that it's my car that I'm paying for, not my parents like many I attended high school with had.
 

SlowSS

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Originally posted by: Millennium
The 4.6 is actually a much better motor than the LS1 or 5.0. The LS1 cannot handle boost like the LT1 due to its higher compression. I know a guy running 16 lbs or boost on a stock cobra block and the valve covers have never been touched on his motor. BTW the 95 still had the 5.0 just as the 88-95s did. So what are your reasons for calling the 4.6 crap? I am interested in hearing this.

I'd like to rephrase your statement and say 4.6 or anyother lower compression engines are better than LS1 or other high compression engine for the forced inductions.

Other then said advantage, I wouldn't say 4.6 is MUCH BETTER engine than LS1.

Since my preference is N/A engine, I would much prefer LS1 over 4.6...There are many N/A LS1s putting down over 400RWHP in LS1.com and LS1Tech.com.

Botton line is, type of engine prefence is all about what direction you want to take in order to increase HP/TQ output.



 

Mill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: TrueBlueLS
Originally posted by: Millennium
The 4.6 is actually a much better motor than the LS1 or 5.0. The LS1 cannot handle boost like the LT1 due to its higher compression. I know a guy running 16 lbs or boost on a stock cobra block and the valve covers have never been touched on his motor. BTW the 95 still had the 5.0 just as the 88-95s did. So what are your reasons for calling the 4.6 crap? I am interested in hearing this.

Pair up a brand new Mustang GT and Camaro Z28 both manual at the tree and see what happens. Although I believe running lower compression for boost is better, there are many cars out running higher compression along with boost.

One word for engines running high compression with boost: detonation. Secondly, a Cobra is the market for a Z28 and a 03 cobra will destroy a 03 Z28/SS or Trans Am.

Edit- I will line my car up NA vs a LS1 anyday and still win.
 

Mill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: Millennium
The 4.6 is actually a much better motor than the LS1 or 5.0. The LS1 cannot handle boost like the LT1 due to its higher compression. I know a guy running 16 lbs or boost on a stock cobra block and the valve covers have never been touched on his motor. BTW the 95 still had the 5.0 just as the 88-95s did. So what are your reasons for calling the 4.6 crap? I am interested in hearing this.

I'd like to rephrase your statement and say 4.6 or anyother lower compression engines are better than LS1 or other high compression engine for the forced inductions.

Other then said advantage, I wouldn't say 4.6 is MUCH BETTER engine than LS1.

Since my preference is N/A engine, I would much prefer LS1 over 4.6...There are many N/A LS1s putting down over 400RWHP in LS1.com and LS1Tech.com.

Botton line is, type of engine prefence is all about what direction you want to take in order to increase HP/TQ output.


There are 4.6 NA people running in the 10's and 11's just like the LS1s. What is scary is that it is both DOHC and SOHC! Also I still like the LS1 but I prefer the LT1 as it is much easier to work on, get parts for and is less expensive. The aftermarket for the 4.6 has exploded and it is becoming very cheap to work and mod them.

Hey I totally respect the LS1, LT1 and LS6. I hate that the General discontinued the F-bodies. Hopefully the GTO will give Ford some competition.
 

TrueBlueLS

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Originally posted by: Millennium
One word for engines running high compression with boost: detonation. Secondly, a Cobra is the market for a Z28 and a 03 cobra will destroy a 03 Z28/SS or Trans Am.

Edit- I will line my car up NA vs a LS1 anyday and still win.

Isn't that why you would want to run 110+ octane in an application like that?
 

Mill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: TrueBlueLS
Originally posted by: Millennium
One word for engines running high compression with boost: detonation. Secondly, a Cobra is the market for a Z28 and a 03 cobra will destroy a 03 Z28/SS or Trans Am.

Edit- I will line my car up NA vs a LS1 anyday and still win.

Isn't that why you would want to run 110+ octane in an application like that?

Octane reaches its limit. High compression is suitable for NA. Low compression works better with forced induction. You still never answered my question. You said the 4.6 was crap. WHY?
 

SlowSS

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Originally posted by: Millennium

One word for engines running high compression with boost: detonation.

Agreed.

Secondly, a Cobra is the market for a Z28 and a 03 cobra will destroy a 03 Z28/SS or Trans Am.

I guess you haven't visit LS1 sites lately, F-bodys have known to kill 03 Cobra, rare, but has happen, mostly because Cobra driver couldn't drive.

I'm guessing it was just a typo, but there isn't 03 F-body, I'm sure you probably knew that.

Edit- I will line my car up NA vs a LS1 anyday and still win.

There are some NA LS1s putting down 450+ RWHP, are you saying you are putting down similar number in NA form? If so, more power to you.;)
 

SlowSS

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: Millennium
The 4.6 is actually a much better motor than the LS1 or 5.0. The LS1 cannot handle boost like the LT1 due to its higher compression. I know a guy running 16 lbs or boost on a stock cobra block and the valve covers have never been touched on his motor. BTW the 95 still had the 5.0 just as the 88-95s did. So what are your reasons for calling the 4.6 crap? I am interested in hearing this.

I'd like to rephrase your statement and say 4.6 or anyother lower compression engines are better than LS1 or other high compression engine for the forced inductions.

Other then said advantage, I wouldn't say 4.6 is MUCH BETTER engine than LS1.

Since my preference is N/A engine, I would much prefer LS1 over 4.6...There are many N/A LS1s putting down over 400RWHP in LS1.com and LS1Tech.com.

Botton line is, type of engine prefence is all about what direction you want to take in order to increase HP/TQ output.


There are 4.6 NA people running in the 10's and 11's just like the LS1s. What is scary is that it is both DOHC and SOHC! Also I still like the LS1 but I prefer the LT1 as it is much easier to work on, get parts for and is less expensive. The aftermarket for the 4.6 has exploded and it is becoming very cheap to work and mod them.

Hey I totally respect the LS1, LT1 and LS6. I hate that the General discontinued the F-bodies. Hopefully the GTO will give Ford some competition.

Yeah, you are absolutely right about LT1, as matter of fact, LT1 seems to be stronger at lower end of rpm.

Yup, it sucks for F-Body enthusiasts. Hopefully GM will come up with another rear wheel drive muscle car. GTO looks to be pretty decent car, but I'd rather buy Cobra than GTO,
I'm not into brand loyalty.

 

Mill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: Millennium

One word for engines running high compression with boost: detonation.

Agreed.

Secondly, a Cobra is the market for a Z28 and a 03 cobra will destroy a 03 Z28/SS or Trans Am.

I guess you haven't visit LS1 sites lately, F-bodys have known to kill 03 Cobra, rare, but has happen, mostly because Cobra driver couldn't drive.

I'm guessing it was just a typo, but there isn't 03 F-body, I'm sure you probably knew that.

Edit- I will line my car up NA vs a LS1 anyday and still win.

There are some NA LS1s putting down 450+ RWHP, are you saying you are putting down similar number in NA form? If so, more power to you.;)

Sorry I am on meds for my broke ass foot. Yes I meant the 02's which were the last year of the F-body sorry.

As for your other points I agree.