Was this scientist fired for finding a "4000 year-old" dinosaur fossil?

[Silver Prime]

Your dinosaur doesn't have any muscles. This is silly. How is it supposed to fight chickens without muscles?

The velociraptor was the size of a turkey:

Quite different from jurassic parks 5 foot tall raptor that could take out a nearly one ton cow, not even bears find it a easy picnic against cows, just shows how much you all claim to have known about dinos and merely being ignorant critics to the guys thread.

 

[IronWing]

The velociraptor was the size of a turkey:

Quite different from jurassic parks 5 foot tall raptor that could take out a nearly one ton cow, not even bears find it a easy picnic against cows, just shows how much you all claim to have known about dinos and merely being ignorant critics to the guys thread.

Again, you are using a cultural projection to claim muscles on those bones. All we have are dino bones. Quit being so arrogant.

 

[Silver Prime]

Again, you are using a cultural projection to claim muscles on those bones. All we have are dino bones. Quit being so arrogant.

Its no different in estimating kodiak bear weights, 90% of them are estimated upon skull samples which is acurate to an extant, just like the dinos such as the raptors...if not, show me a legit source that shows the velociraptor averageing over a 100 lbs...juuuuuuust 1 source.

C'mon mister arogant.

 

[IronWing]

Its no different in estimating kodiak bear weights, 90% of them are estimated upon skull samples which is acurate to an extant, just like the dinos such as the raptors...if not, show me a legit source that shows the velociraptor averageing over a 100 lbs...juuuuuuust 1 source.

C'mon mister arogant.

Will you be providing justification for placing muscles on your dinosaur bones?

 

[Silver Prime]

Will you be providing justification for placing muscles on your dinosaur bones?

You arnt even in the "debating realm" (Just the denial realm) because you know you're dreams have been crushed, the skeleton alone of all the velociraptors are smaller/lighter than 90 pound leopards, and the raptor that was in jurassic park (Real) size, is only a little bigger than a house cat:

Jurassic park has the raptor standing taller than 5 foot 7 men, no velociraptor skeleton on earth has come near that measurements, unless you want to contradict science (osteology) and border into pusedo alchemy, where a near 5 lb skeleton of a velociraptor is suppose to be able to support any weight muscle/mass heavier than 40+ lbs as their average. No, main stream media news, cartoons and holloywood ripoffs are the reason why every run-around the mook like you who parrot them as if God told you those are the facts himself. Everything is based on opinions, even the scientific instruments can be bullshit, as the dating is as well.

How much muscle mass can you fit on that life-sized velociraptor skeleton? Looks to be the size of a small peakcock skeleton, and they average much less than that, thats no where near the size of jurassic park, like 1/10th the size over exageration/bullshit. A bob cat would take out the velociraptor with little accord.


Again, you dont know anything.

 

[Sonikku]

The prominent scientist is wrong. We all know that Earth has only been around for 2000 years, not 4000.

Everyone knows this.

 

[IronWing]

You arnt even in the "debating realm" (Just the denial realm) because you know you're dreams have been crushed, the skeleton alone of all the velociraptors are smaller/lighter than 90 pound leopards, and the raptor that was in jurassic park (Real) size, is only a little bigger than a house cat:

Jurassic park has the raptor standing taller than 5 foot 7 men, no velociraptor skeleton on earth has come near that measurements, unless you want to contradict science (osteology) and border into pusedo alchemy, where a near 5 lb skeleton of a velociraptor is suppose to be able to support any weight muscle/mass heavier than 40+ lbs as their average. No, main stream media news, cartoons and holloywood ripoffs are the reason why every run-around the mook like you who parrot them as if God told you those are the facts himself. Everything is based on opinions, even the scientific instruments can be bullshit, as the dating is as well.

How much muscle mass can you fit on that life-sized velociraptor skeleton? Looks to be the size of a small peakcock skeleton, and they average much less than that, thats no where near the size of jurassic park, like 1/10th the size over exageration/bullshit. A bob cat would take out the velociraptor with little accord.


Again, you dont know anything.

You can claim any poundage of muscle you wish but until you provide a reason to think the bones held any muscle you are blowing hot air.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

anyone who has legitimate evidence for a 4000 year old Triceratops doesn't need a temp job, they'll be wildly rich and famous in due time

 

[Silver Prime]

You can claim any poundage of muscle you wish but until you provide a reason to think the bones held any muscle you are blowing hot air.

Exactly what I thought, shadap.

 

[IronWing]

Exactly what I thought, shadap.

Come back with evidence.

 

[Silver Prime]

Come back with evidence.

Ha ha hah aaha ha, its plasterd on every single site of every single cultures science and historians blogs, web centers, academics of all languages, that the jurassic parks version was a complete bullshit of size dimensions and no where near close to the only existing skeletons of the velociraptor...again theres a difference in denial and refuting it with counter evidence.

You have none, other than ohhh...this instrument I plug into the ground tells us that dinosaurs are 65 million years ago, although over 200 universitys have yet to accept it as fact and disputed it as pusedo science, we had to make cartoon animations and target the kids to pollute the minds of the weak, that way its more generally accepted.

XD XD XD

 

[IronWing]

Ha ha hah aaha ha, its plasterd on every single site of every single cultures science and historians blogs, web centers, academics of all languages, that the jurassic parks version was a complete bullshit of size dimensions and no where near close to the only existing skeletons of the velociraptor...again theres a difference in denial and refuting it with counter evidence.

You have none, other than ohhh...this instrument I plug into the ground tells us that dinosaurs are 65 million years ago, although over 200 universitys have yet to accept it as fact and disputed it as pusedo science, we had to make cartoon animations and target the kids to pollute the minds of the weak, that way its more generally accepted.

XD XD XD

Link to evidence that over 200 universities don't accept radio-isotope age dating?

 

[Silver Prime]

Link to evidence that over 200 universities don't accept radio-isotope age dating?

List 200 that do. The burden falls upon the one who claims the positive, you just said 200 accepted, now name em.


Dumbass.

 

[IronWing]

List 200 that do. The burden falls upon the one who claims the positive, you just said 200 accepted, now name em.


Dumbass.

I made no such claim. Kindly back up your assertion or withdraw it. Thank you.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

...over 200 universitys have yet to accept it as fact and disputed it as pusedo science...

The burden falls upon the one who claims the positive...

...you just said 200 accepted, now name em.

Where was that claim made?

Dumbass.

How about over 1300 Steves with Ph.Ds?

 

[Pray To Jesus]

You arnt even in the "debating realm" (Just the denial realm) because you know you're dreams have been crushed, the skeleton alone of all the velociraptors are smaller/lighter than 90 pound leopards, and the raptor that was in jurassic park (Real) size, is only a little bigger than a house cat:

Jurassic park has the raptor standing taller than 5 foot 7 men, no velociraptor skeleton on earth has come near that measurements, unless you want to contradict science (osteology) and border into pusedo alchemy, where a near 5 lb skeleton of a velociraptor is suppose to be able to support any weight muscle/mass heavier than 40+ lbs as their average. No, main stream media news, cartoons and holloywood ripoffs are the reason why every run-around the mook like you who parrot them as if God told you those are the facts himself. Everything is based on opinions, even the scientific instruments can be bullshit, as the dating is as well.

How much muscle mass can you fit on that life-sized velociraptor skeleton? Looks to be the size of a small peakcock skeleton, and they average much less than that, thats no where near the size of jurassic park, like 1/10th the size over exageration/bullshit. A bob cat would take out the velociraptor with little accord.


Again, you dont know anything.

Let us build Jurrasic Land!

With velor petting.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So let's summarize what we know so far.

1) We don't know anything.
2) See 1

I have yet to understand just what this is about. Yes, it's another stupid thread about religion, but I'm claims about a 4k year old dinosaur but nothing which says that claim was made in the paper and no I'm not spending 36 dollars to find out.

Apparently someone was fired. The person who got canned believes that it was religious bigotry while others say it was funding.

So what is the true story here?

 

[Iron Woode]

List 200 that do. The burden falls upon the one who claims the positive, you just said 200 accepted, now name em.


Dumbass.

well, sure looks like the young Earther just pwned himself.

The idiot makes an irrational claim that he knows he can't prove and now decides to blame the rational person he is arguing with of making the irrational statement in the first place whilst demanding he prove said claim.

You see folks, this is what happens when religion interferes with science based teaching in schools. Logic and commonsense are replaced by dogma and faith which lead to irrational thought and emotional demands that their world view is the only correct one.

Religion, and by extension Creationism, is anathema to the pure, unencumbered search for knowledge and truth.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Its no different in estimating kodiak bear weights, 90% of them are estimated upon skull samples which is acurate to an extant, just like the dinos such as the raptors...if not, show me a legit source that shows the velociraptor averageing over a 100 lbs...juuuuuuust 1 source.

C'mon mister arogant.

You think those estimates for bears are done solely based on knowledge of fossilized skeletal structure alone or do you think there are other observed criteria they might use since, well, thousands of intact samples, muscle and all, are available to help make those determinations?

 

[alzan]

You think those estimates for bears are done solely based on knowledge of fossilized skeletal structure alone or do you think there are other observed criteria they might use since, well, thousands of intact samples, muscle and all, are available to help make those determinations?

Stop making sense.

I'm not sure whether to be more offended by his spelling or his reasoning.

 

[Jaskalas]

The velociraptor was the size of a turkey:

Quite different from jurassic parks 5 foot tall raptor that could take out a nearly one ton cow, not even bears find it a easy picnic against cows, just shows how much you all claim to have known about dinos and merely being ignorant critics to the guys thread.

Replace velociraptor with that red one's name. Happy now?

 

[Brainonska511]

The velociraptor was the size of a turkey:

Quite different from jurassic parks 5 foot tall raptor that could take out a nearly one ton cow, not even bears find it a easy picnic against cows, just shows how much you all claim to have known about dinos and merely being ignorant critics to the guys thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velociraptor#In_popular_culture

Velociraptor are well known for their role as vicious and cunning killers thanks to their portrayal in the 1990 novel Jurassic Park by Michael Crichton and its 1993 film adaptation, directed by Steven Spielberg. The "raptors" portrayed in Jurassic Park were modeled after the related dromaeosaurid Deinonychus, which had been named at the time by Gregory Paul Velociraptor antirrhopus.[4] Paleontologists in both the novel and film excavate a skeleton in Montana, far from the central Asian range of Velociraptor but characteristic of the Deinonychus range. A character in Crichton's novel also states that "…Deinonychus is now considered one of the velociraptors", which suggests that Crichton used Paul's taxonomy even though the "raptors" in the novel are at another point referred to as V. mongoliensis.[42]


The filmmakers greatly increased the size of the Velociraptor and changed the shape of its snout to proportions more characteristic of Deinonychus.[43][44] In real life Velociraptor, like many other maniraptoran theropods, was covered in feathers. Jurassic Park and The Lost World: Jurassic Park, were released before this discovery, so the creatures in both films are depicted as featherless with scales all over in the manner of modern reptiles. For Jurassic Park III the male Velociraptor was given quill-like structures along the back of the head and neck. While this was as far as CGI effects could realistically go (feathers remained difficult to animate at the time), the structures do not resemble the down-like feathers real-life dromaeosaurids bore or the fully developed arm feathers, akin to the wing feathers of modern birds, born by Velociraptor.[10]

 

[Rakehellion]

I just think that his findings were summarily rejected, without investigation, "days" after he they were published...so no time was taken to falsify them.

Because Christians are persecuted by those mean old atheists.

Can you back up this claim with scientific evidence?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

I just think that his findings were summarily rejected, without investigation, "days" after he they were published...so no time was taken to falsify them.

Just what, exactly, do you think he found, hmm? What were his "findings"?

We know there were some soft tissue samples discovered inside some dino bones. Ok.

Were any dating methods applied to that soft tissue material?

What about the bones in which they were encased? Were any dating methods applied to those?

Did he actually "find" (as in, with supporting evidence) that those tissue samples were less than 10,000 years old, or did he simply leap to that conclusion because of his religious beliefs when an unexpected discovery was made?

 

[WHAMPOM]

Just what, exactly, do you think he found, hmm? What were his "findings"?

We know there were some soft tissue samples discovered inside some dino bones. Ok.

Were any dating methods applied to that soft tissue material?

What about the bones in which they were encased? Were any dating methods applied to those?

Did he actually "find" (as in, with supporting evidence) that those tissue samples were less than 10,000 years old, or did he simply leap to that conclusion because of his religious beliefs when an unexpected discovery was made?

I think the "soft" tissue was found in "horn" not "bone". Horn encapsulated soft tissue and preserved it during fossilization.