AnonymouseUser
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****** the Salvation Army Santas! How dare they attempt to guilt me into giving money to them! :|
****** the Salvation Army Santas! How dare they attempt to guilt me into giving money to them! :|
I do have nice Walmarts in my area here in Texas...
Of course, I also had nice Walmarts in my area when I lived in Oklahoma...
I also had nice Walmarts in my area when I lived in Louisiana.
This "minority" I'm in keeps getting bigger and bigger
Amused
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Originally posted by: tm37
OK there are a ton of generalizatioons and the important thing is to check out your local for the actual truth.
1. Walmart where I live is actually normally clean and most of the employees are helpful.
2. the target 30 miles up the road while clean does not have floor associates (if they do they are hiding) so if you can not find something you are on your own.
3. Walmart pays more than target
4. on the health care issue I have two issues with people saying that walmart is forcing people to have welfare and sucg.
a. there is no requirement for employees to be provided with health care
b. my mother in law works at walamrt and has health insurance through walmart that is better than what I had through my first job in MN
People want to say that walmart mistreats their employees and does not pay them enough but I want to ask why did they take the job?
Why should a job that requires MIMINMAL SKILL paid a high salary? These people working there are not highly educated, do not bring many employyer desired skills, and typically can leave and find work elsewhere (although the local mom and pop there will be less pay and no benifits). why s walmart still able to staff the stores if it is so bad.
We have reached the age of entitlement where people believe they are entitled to a high paying job, super health benifits and not having to do any actuall work. I have seen people here that will say things like "I will only work as hard as they pay me for" and "for that amount of money they can not expect me to be productive"
My wife has worked for Walmart for 5 years and just gave notice as she got an office job. Overall she has enjoyed her time however we have decided that we want to spend our weekends together. We do the majority of our shopping at walmart and will continue to do so (even though we are losing our discount). Neither of us feels bad there is not a target or kmart within our small town and we even drive 15 miles about once a month to the super walmart for our "big grocery" shopping.
I have read books and watched specials on walmart and they all have an agenda and make it sound like profit is the root of all evil. and that walmart needs to be taken down as they want to control the world
As soon as a company reaches a certain level they become EVIL for some reason. I personally believe alot of this is just envy but who am I to say.
The real reason that walmart is able to offer lower prices is that there distribution is secoond to none and they do a better job at allocating resources than most. the system they have created allows them to measure and manage about every part of the bussiness and that is good for walmart and considering the margins they make good for consumers as well.
Bingo.
A common theme among the fervent Walmart haters is that all or most are anti-capitalist liberal socialist elitists. And then there are the mindless band-wagoners who see others irrationally hating Walmart and do the same to fit in.
Walmart hating is now a liberal fad... a very sad one.
As for my local Walmarts I have two.
The closest one is older non-supercenter and is a bit crowded and run down. Liberal elitists in the area have kept Walmart from building a new Supercenter at that location for years, but recently lost and construction begins soon. Because of this I use the new Meijers that is right next door to the lot the new Walmart Supercenter is to be built. Curiously the new Meijers is every bit as big as a Walmart supercenter, but for some reason the liberals had no problem with it at all. Nor did they have a problem with the new Furniture Row supercenter, two new car dealer supercenters and three hotels in the same area... only the new Walmart Supercenter. The kicker? Walmart had plans to build before ALL these other places were announced, much less built.
Gee, I wonder why they only opposed the Walmart?
The other Walmart in my area is further away on the other side of town, is a newer Supercenter and is very nice to visit.
The biggest laugh? The nice Walmart in town is in an area most would consider "rednecky." (Blue collar) The older, rundown one that was kept from building a new Supercenter is on the high end side of town.
dabuddha
Lifer
- Apr 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
I do have nice Walmarts in my area here in Texas...
Of course, I also had nice Walmarts in my area when I lived in Oklahoma...
I also had nice Walmarts in my area when I lived in Louisiana.
This "minority" I'm in keeps getting bigger and bigger
Which part of Texas? I guess to clarify, I'm not saying every single walmart in existence is a POS but a great majority of them are.
Perhaps your definition of nice differs from mine
spacejamz
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- Mar 31, 2003
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[Which part of Texas? I guess to clarify, I'm not saying every single walmart in existence is a POS but a great majority of them are.
Perhaps your definition of nice differs from mine
How about this one?
Expanded wine selection, sushi bar, expanded organic and natural offerings, etc...
dabuddha
Lifer
- Apr 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: spacejamz
[Which part of Texas? I guess to clarify, I'm not saying every single walmart in existence is a POS but a great majority of them are.
Perhaps your definition of nice differs from mine
How about this one?
Expanded wine selection, sushi bar, expanded organic and natural offerings, etc...
Yep in the minority there. You did see that that particular Walmart is a pilot store.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: tm37
OK there are a ton of generalizatioons and the important thing is to check out your local for the actual truth.
1. Walmart where I live is actually normally clean and most of the employees are helpful.
2. the target 30 miles up the road while clean does not have floor associates (if they do they are hiding) so if you can not find something you are on your own.
3. Walmart pays more than target
4. on the health care issue I have two issues with people saying that walmart is forcing people to have welfare and sucg.
a. there is no requirement for employees to be provided with health care
b. my mother in law works at walamrt and has health insurance through walmart that is better than what I had through my first job in MN
People want to say that walmart mistreats their employees and does not pay them enough but I want to ask why did they take the job?
Why should a job that requires MIMINMAL SKILL paid a high salary? These people working there are not highly educated, do not bring many employyer desired skills, and typically can leave and find work elsewhere (although the local mom and pop there will be less pay and no benifits). why s walmart still able to staff the stores if it is so bad.
We have reached the age of entitlement where people believe they are entitled to a high paying job, super health benifits and not having to do any actuall work. I have seen people here that will say things like "I will only work as hard as they pay me for" and "for that amount of money they can not expect me to be productive"
My wife has worked for Walmart for 5 years and just gave notice as she got an office job. Overall she has enjoyed her time however we have decided that we want to spend our weekends together. We do the majority of our shopping at walmart and will continue to do so (even though we are losing our discount). Neither of us feels bad there is not a target or kmart within our small town and we even drive 15 miles about once a month to the super walmart for our "big grocery" shopping.
I have read books and watched specials on walmart and they all have an agenda and make it sound like profit is the root of all evil. and that walmart needs to be taken down as they want to control the world
As soon as a company reaches a certain level they become EVIL for some reason. I personally believe alot of this is just envy but who am I to say.
The real reason that walmart is able to offer lower prices is that there distribution is secoond to none and they do a better job at allocating resources than most. the system they have created allows them to measure and manage about every part of the bussiness and that is good for walmart and considering the margins they make good for consumers as well.
Bingo.
A common theme among the fervent Walmart haters is that all or most are anti-capitalist liberal socialist elitists. And then there are the mindless band-wagoners who see others irrationally hating Walmart and do the same to fit in.
Walmart hating is now a liberal fad... a very sad one.
As for my local Walmarts I have two.
The closest one is older non-supercenter and is a bit crowded and run down. Liberal elitists in the area have kept Walmart from building a new Supercenter at that location for years, but recently lost and construction begins soon. Because of this I use the new Meijers that is right next door to the lot the new Walmart Supercenter is to be built. Curiously the new Meijers is every bit as big as a Walmart supercenter, but for some reason the liberals had no problem with it at all. Nor did they have a problem with the new Furniture Row supercenter, two new car dealer supercenters and three hotels in the same area... only the new Walmart Supercenter. The kicker? Walmart had plans to build before ALL these other places were announced, much less built.
Gee, I wonder why they only opposed the Walmart?
The other Walmart in my area is further away on the other side of town, is a newer Supercenter and is very nice to visit.
The biggest laugh? The nice Walmart in town is in an area most would consider "rednecky." (Blue collar) The older, rundown one that was kept from building a new Supercenter is on the high end side of town.
Nice to see I am not alone.
moshquerade
No Lifer
- Nov 1, 2001
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Only thing is Hillary Clinton has to hand in her liberal, Walmart hating card, because for 6 years she was on the Walmart Board of Directors.Originally posted by: tm37
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: tm37
OK there are a ton of generalizatioons and the important thing is to check out your local for the actual truth.
1. Walmart where I live is actually normally clean and most of the employees are helpful.
2. the target 30 miles up the road while clean does not have floor associates (if they do they are hiding) so if you can not find something you are on your own.
3. Walmart pays more than target
4. on the health care issue I have two issues with people saying that walmart is forcing people to have welfare and sucg.
a. there is no requirement for employees to be provided with health care
b. my mother in law works at walamrt and has health insurance through walmart that is better than what I had through my first job in MN
People want to say that walmart mistreats their employees and does not pay them enough but I want to ask why did they take the job?
Why should a job that requires MIMINMAL SKILL paid a high salary? These people working there are not highly educated, do not bring many employyer desired skills, and typically can leave and find work elsewhere (although the local mom and pop there will be less pay and no benifits). why s walmart still able to staff the stores if it is so bad.
We have reached the age of entitlement where people believe they are entitled to a high paying job, super health benifits and not having to do any actuall work. I have seen people here that will say things like "I will only work as hard as they pay me for" and "for that amount of money they can not expect me to be productive"
My wife has worked for Walmart for 5 years and just gave notice as she got an office job. Overall she has enjoyed her time however we have decided that we want to spend our weekends together. We do the majority of our shopping at walmart and will continue to do so (even though we are losing our discount). Neither of us feels bad there is not a target or kmart within our small town and we even drive 15 miles about once a month to the super walmart for our "big grocery" shopping.
I have read books and watched specials on walmart and they all have an agenda and make it sound like profit is the root of all evil. and that walmart needs to be taken down as they want to control the world
As soon as a company reaches a certain level they become EVIL for some reason. I personally believe alot of this is just envy but who am I to say.
The real reason that walmart is able to offer lower prices is that there distribution is secoond to none and they do a better job at allocating resources than most. the system they have created allows them to measure and manage about every part of the bussiness and that is good for walmart and considering the margins they make good for consumers as well.
Bingo.
A common theme among the fervent Walmart haters is that all or most are anti-capitalist liberal socialist elitists. And then there are the mindless band-wagoners who see others irrationally hating Walmart and do the same to fit in.
Walmart hating is now a liberal fad... a very sad one.
As for my local Walmarts I have two.
The closest one is older non-supercenter and is a bit crowded and run down. Liberal elitists in the area have kept Walmart from building a new Supercenter at that location for years, but recently lost and construction begins soon. Because of this I use the new Meijers that is right next door to the lot the new Walmart Supercenter is to be built. Curiously the new Meijers is every bit as big as a Walmart supercenter, but for some reason the liberals had no problem with it at all. Nor did they have a problem with the new Furniture Row supercenter, two new car dealer supercenters and three hotels in the same area... only the new Walmart Supercenter. The kicker? Walmart had plans to build before ALL these other places were announced, much less built.
Gee, I wonder why they only opposed the Walmart?
The other Walmart in my area is further away on the other side of town, is a newer Supercenter and is very nice to visit.
The biggest laugh? The nice Walmart in town is in an area most would consider "rednecky." (Blue collar) The older, rundown one that was kept from building a new Supercenter is on the high end side of town.
Nice to see I am not alone.
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
I do have nice Walmarts in my area here in Texas...
Of course, I also had nice Walmarts in my area when I lived in Oklahoma...
I also had nice Walmarts in my area when I lived in Louisiana.
This "minority" I'm in keeps getting bigger and bigger
Which part of Texas? I guess to clarify, I'm not saying every single walmart in existence is a POS but a great majority of them are.
Perhaps your definition of nice differs from mine
Central...around Austin
My definition of "nice" is only relative to the other discount chains like Target, Kmart and such.
0roo0roo
No Lifer
- Sep 21, 2002
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targets gotten nicer in recent years to combat walmart. originally it was pretty ghetto too..only slightly better than kmart.
"an economist professor of mine, who worked at the justice department before teaching law, says that walmart's prices are actually higher on un-advertised things. i've never tried to independently verify that, however."
i remember reading about that somewhere. yes their normal prices can be less than a deal. they keep their promotions on display to give the illusion of good deals. but if you want the nicer model r whatever, u get no deal, but your already in the store so you might just pick it up anyways.
"an economist professor of mine, who worked at the justice department before teaching law, says that walmart's prices are actually higher on un-advertised things. i've never tried to independently verify that, however."
i remember reading about that somewhere. yes their normal prices can be less than a deal. they keep their promotions on display to give the illusion of good deals. but if you want the nicer model r whatever, u get no deal, but your already in the store so you might just pick it up anyways.
I have.
Did it after watching a special that said, to paraphrase, "The advertised price of a microwave might be the lowest in town, but the other microwaves that you actually want may be priced higher."
Not true.
Walmart's microwaves were priced lower for every model that was also available at Target, the PX, Best Buy, and Home Depot. I have also checked for other goods.
- Aug 22, 2001
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Here, the SuperWM and SuperT are literally right across the street from the each other. Consequently, I find the prices between the 2 very competitive on many items. Both stores are fairly newly built, clean, and the staff of each, generally friendly and helpful if asked. Target definitely hires the hotties though.
The biggest reason I do most my shopping at the SuperT, is that I like their selection of grocery items that I will buy in a superstore, more,*get my meat and produce from Publix and farmers markets* it is less crowded, and I don't shop for clothes, shoes, or most electronics in either.
I don't know if it is a national thing or not, but when sliding the CC at Walmart here, it asks you "Was the store clean today?" yes or no. So they are evidently trying to address the common complaint of their stores being "dirty".
BTW, the Walmart here, is mostly populated by elderly and/or retirees, that moved here from all over the country, for the year round golf and such, as my area is chock-a-block with them.
The biggest reason I do most my shopping at the SuperT, is that I like their selection of grocery items that I will buy in a superstore, more,*get my meat and produce from Publix and farmers markets* it is less crowded, and I don't shop for clothes, shoes, or most electronics in either.
I don't know if it is a national thing or not, but when sliding the CC at Walmart here, it asks you "Was the store clean today?" yes or no. So they are evidently trying to address the common complaint of their stores being "dirty".
BTW, the Walmart here, is mostly populated by elderly and/or retirees, that moved here from all over the country, for the year round golf and such, as my area is chock-a-block with them.
And for some of us, thats not a big problem. Although just about the only thing I trust SA for is those santas these days. They don't have much of a stellar rep otherwise IMHO.
I prefer target because locally, they are better usually. I've been in bad targets, bad wally worlds and bad kmarts, it isnt a big deal. I have a superwalmart that is closer than others and isn't too bad though I don't care for their grocery section. My problem with walmart is, while cheap in some areas, like in all shopping/consumering you have to pay attention. Also, don't ever buy calling cards from walmart. Most often their prices are no better than many other stores and I once had an att card from them that had a bloody walmart bs ad line play every time I used the card. Since then, I only buy stuff that isn't going to waste my time with more ads for their crap when I'm trying to make a phone call.
dainthomas
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mugs
Lifer
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Target doesn't allow any charity to set up shop outside their store, and I'm glad. I hate being guilted into giving away money anytime I walk into or out of a store. I hate going to Lowe's on a Saturday afternoon, because almost invariably someone who makes more money than I do is there asking me to buy some crap so their kid can go on some unnecessary trip. Pay for your own damn kid's trip! If your kid needs to spend a week in Florida for "spring training" for high school baseball or if she wants to go to a cheerleading or band competition in Hawaii, don't ask me to pay for it! I buy from the Girl Scouts though, their cookies are so good!
Target doesn't want to deal with that, so they bar EVERYONE from doing fundraisers at their store. They give a hell of a lot of money to charities though.
Where I live, there are 3 Walmarts and probably a dozen or more Target stores. I don't care which one I shop as long as I can get the stuff that I want.
What is this Target you speak of? I would really like to find one of these Targets in Canada, but it seems to be that they don't serve to Canadians...?
mugs
Lifer
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: tm37
OK there are a ton of generalizatioons and the important thing is to check out your local for the actual truth.
1. Walmart where I live is actually normally clean and most of the employees are helpful.
2. the target 30 miles up the road while clean does not have floor associates (if they do they are hiding) so if you can not find something you are on your own.
3. Walmart pays more than target
4. on the health care issue I have two issues with people saying that walmart is forcing people to have welfare and sucg.
a. there is no requirement for employees to be provided with health care
b. my mother in law works at walamrt and has health insurance through walmart that is better than what I had through my first job in MN
People want to say that walmart mistreats their employees and does not pay them enough but I want to ask why did they take the job?
Why should a job that requires MIMINMAL SKILL paid a high salary? These people working there are not highly educated, do not bring many employyer desired skills, and typically can leave and find work elsewhere (although the local mom and pop there will be less pay and no benifits). why s walmart still able to staff the stores if it is so bad.
We have reached the age of entitlement where people believe they are entitled to a high paying job, super health benifits and not having to do any actuall work. I have seen people here that will say things like "I will only work as hard as they pay me for" and "for that amount of money they can not expect me to be productive"
My wife has worked for Walmart for 5 years and just gave notice as she got an office job. Overall she has enjoyed her time however we have decided that we want to spend our weekends together. We do the majority of our shopping at walmart and will continue to do so (even though we are losing our discount). Neither of us feels bad there is not a target or kmart within our small town and we even drive 15 miles about once a month to the super walmart for our "big grocery" shopping.
I have read books and watched specials on walmart and they all have an agenda and make it sound like profit is the root of all evil. and that walmart needs to be taken down as they want to control the world
As soon as a company reaches a certain level they become EVIL for some reason. I personally believe alot of this is just envy but who am I to say.
The real reason that walmart is able to offer lower prices is that there distribution is secoond to none and they do a better job at allocating resources than most. the system they have created allows them to measure and manage about every part of the bussiness and that is good for walmart and considering the margins they make good for consumers as well.
Bingo.
A common theme among the fervent Walmart haters is that all or most are anti-capitalist liberal socialist elitists. And then there are the mindless band-wagoners who see others irrationally hating Walmart and do the same to fit in.
Walmart hating is now a liberal fad... a very sad one.
As for my local Walmarts I have two.
The closest one is older non-supercenter and is a bit crowded and run down. Liberal elitists in the area have kept Walmart from building a new Supercenter at that location for years, but recently lost and construction begins soon. Because of this I use the new Meijers that is right next door to the lot the new Walmart Supercenter is to be built. Curiously the new Meijers is every bit as big as a Walmart supercenter, but for some reason the liberals had no problem with it at all. Nor did they have a problem with the new Furniture Row supercenter, two new car dealer supercenters and three hotels in the same area... only the new Walmart Supercenter. The kicker? Walmart had plans to build before ALL these other places were announced, much less built.
Gee, I wonder why they only opposed the Walmart?
The other Walmart in my area is further away on the other side of town, is a newer Supercenter and is very nice to visit.
The biggest laugh? The nice Walmart in town is in an area most would consider "rednecky." (Blue collar) The older, rundown one that was kept from building a new Supercenter is on the high end side of town.
Why is it so hard for you to believe that people who don't shop at Walmart do so because of repeatedly horrible shopping experiences? I'm all for saving money, but going to Walmart just makes me angry most of the time. Not to mention that with all the money I save on Target's clearance deals, it probably is just as cheap as shopping at Walmart. And Target sells nicer clothes.
There are things that Target doesn't sell though, particularly in the automotive, sporting goods and pet areas. Last time I went to Walmart was to buy fish. It took 15 minutes and 3 pages over the intercom to get someone to help me. I debated on just getting the fish out myself, but that's not really allowed. The tanks were dirty and had dead fish in them. The guy mangled the fish as he was taking them out of the tank, and half died within a couple of weeks. Then I went to PetSmart - wow, talk about a huge difference! The fish were in nice, clean tanks. The fish were alive and healthy and not overcrowded. I'll never buy a fish from Walmart again, prices be damned!
I don't hate Walmart, I just hate shopping there.
mugs
Lifer
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I do.
Based on the number of people all over the country who don't shop at Walmarts for the same reason as me, I think my Walmart is like many other Walmarts. And even if my Walmart is not typical of Walmarts, and all of the other people who don't stop at Walmart live near atypical Walmarts, how can you fault us for not liking and not shopping at Walmart?
It's not a liberal fad, it's people demanding better service or better products (yes, they sell a lot of the same products, but Target also sells a lot of better products particularly in the clothing department). Kind of like why I get my hoagies from Wawa instead of Subway.
dainthomas
Lifer
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There are ~3300 stores in the US. Now it's been a while since I took stats, but I don't believe 2 qualifies as a representative sample.
I've never been into a WalMart by choice. And I pretty much hate target too, but I'll take target over walmart any day of the week.
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