Very disturbing, devote christian is a professor at my school.

[Seekermeister]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
As long as he doesn't believe the earth is 6000 years old, there shouldn't be any problem.

And, if he did, what would that have to do with hydrology?

 

[reverend boltron]

Originally posted by: Seekermeister

Originally posted by: angminas
Sir, you have some learning to do. He said flame wars, not terrorism. Christianity and Islam have been linked since the days of Abraham, so whether you like it is completely irrelevant. And all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, even you. Have you forgotten the sins of Saul, David, Solomon, all anointed kings of Israel? Have you forgotten that Paul guarded people's clothes while they stoned Stephen? Calling oneself Christian, or even actually converting and repenting, or even walking just as he did, does not instantly make one holier-than-Ali. Jesus did not teach us to focus on what other people do, but on what we do. I recommend you read and meditate on Psalm 51, remembering all the while that it was written by a greater man than you or I. You will be in my prayers.

It would seem that I'm not the only one that has a few things to learn. Firstly, Islam did not exist in the time of Abraham, but about 2500 years later, and about 6 hundred years after Christ. Secondly, while Christians are not without sin, your examples are very poor, because when Paul resided at the stoning of Stephen, he was not a Christian. For that matter, David and Solomon never were.

I appreciate the fact that you are apparently a Christian, but if you felt that what I said deserves chastisement, then I have no idea of what you believe, for nothing that I said indicated that I consider myself holier than anyone.

I never mind anyone praying for me, but for it to do any good, you would need for God to be listening. Perhaps He will, and open your eyes a bit wider.

"If any of you has a dispute with another, dare he take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases?"
1 Corinthians 6:1-3

"Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels."
2 Timothy 2:23

"But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless."
Titus 3:9

 

[hzl eyed grl]

I don't know. I still don't get what his religious beliefs have to do with his teaching/why it would be a problem UNLESS he's trying to force them on students. To me, that would be wrong for any religious belief. I'm a Christian, but I don't force my views on anyone. I have a lot of friends with a lot of different beliefs on here, and I'm pretty sure that they would vouch for that.

 

[angminas]

nothing that I said indicated that I consider myself holier than anyone.

Are you sure? Go back and read your earlier post again tomorrow and see if you still feel the same way. Imagine if you had been on the receiving end of it.

Christianity didn't just appear at the beginning of Jesus' ministry. It is a continuation, refinement, and expansion of the same religious beliefs held by Noah, Abraham and David. God's true religion has always been the same at its core- obey God, and learn to think and act like him. Seen in this light, perhaps my examples weren't as poor as you thought at first, especially considering the special offices they held, and the high expectations that God had of them. Of course, this is a simplification for the purposes of this thread, not meant to cover all possible minutiae. I also can't really cover the Islam thing without writing a book.

I will also re-read the Psalm I recommended, because I know I am extremely fallible. Thanks for your honesty.

It would seem that I'm not the only one that has a few things to learn.

I agree, and so did Paul:

1 Now concerning things offered to idols: We know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies. 2 And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know. (1Cor 8)

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: DVK916
, This man is a devote christian, and is teaching science to the young minds are my school. Don't you think something is wrong with this. He even wrote books trying to relate religion and god. Horrible if you ask me. His god belief clearly clouds his judgement, and affects his teaching.

You actually wrote "young minds" and "god belief clearly clouds his judgement"!

Troll

 

[SWScorch]

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

How can a "devote" Christian even find a place to present his faith in a hydrology class?!? "Well, class, today we will talk about groundwater inflow and outflow, which, by the way, are all pre-mandated and known beforehand by God. Then we'll move on to the effect of saturation of various soils and the resulting effects of anoxia, which are similar to those experiencing the lack of God in their life."

 

[Seekermeister]

Originally posted by: reverend boltron
"If any of you has a dispute with another, dare he take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases?"
1 Corinthians 6:1-3

"Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels."
2 Timothy 2:23

"But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless."
Titus 3:9

Biblical references would be fine, if they applied to the situation. However, your first reference dealt with the idea of taking another Christian to judgement in an unChristian court. I do not believe that Anandtech constitutes a court. Leaving out the legal aspects, the latter two quotes might be more valid, if angminas and I were seriously attacking one another. But I do not believe that is the case. If anyone is making an unwarranted attack, it would appear to be you. And using the word of God in this fashion is far worse than what you accused us of...reverend.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: hzl eyed grl

Originally posted by: DVK916
, This man is a devote christian, and is teaching science to the young minds are my school. Don't you think something is wrong with this. He even wrote books trying to relate religion and god. Horrible if you ask me. His god belief clearly clouds his judgement, and affects his teaching.

Then couldn't it be said that your (or anyone else's) non-God belief could cloud theirs?

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: CKent
"devout"

Have you had him? If he keeps his beliefs separate from the curriculum he teaches I don't see a problem.

No I haven't.

What is also disturbing is he is teaching a class showing gods so called love and science, outside of the campus. If he teaches this outside of campus who knows what he plans to teach inside his class.

You know, they can't fire him for his extra-curricular activities, nor his religious beliefs. If the school has certain curriculum requirements and/or restrictions about what is taught, he should be adhering to them. If he's in violation, then there's a problem. If the school has no standards like that or he's not violating them, then this isn't a problem. You can't be biased towards someone just because of a religious belief.

guess you didn't read the article from yesterday about the teacher who got fired because he did paintings with his butt and penis outside of school.

 

[Dumac]

Eh, get over it. As long as it stays out of the classroom, I see no problem. But, like SWScorch said, how would it even getin a hydrology lecture?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: DVK916
, This man is a devote christian, and is teaching science to the young minds are my school. Don't you think something is wrong with this. He even wrote books trying to relate religion and god. Horrible if you ask me. His god belief clearly clouds his judgement, and affects his teaching.

That is totally preposterous.

 

[Seekermeister]

angminas,

I do not need to reread anything that I have written, because I know better than anyone what my words mean. If someone misunderstands them, I would be far more inclined to elaborate with the person that I addressed them to, than to a bystander...which in this situation you are. It would not be the first time that I was misunderstood, because I really dislike politically correctness. Therefore I am not evasive in any fashion, nor do I recall Jesus being less than direct in what He had to say..be it for love or chastisement.

I did not say anything to imply that Christianity did not find it's roots in the Old Testament, I disputed the linking of Islam with it. Yes, they do claim to be the heir's of God's promises, but any blessing that the Muslim people receive from God is not due to their religion. Because it is in opposition to God's word, and any similarity is a corruption. The fact that someone believes in god, does not mean that they believe in the same God as Hebrew and Christians. The differences between these last two groups is more to do with the understanding of the word of God, not with which god spoke them.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: DVK916
, This man is black, and is teaching science to the young minds are my school. Don't you think something is wrong with this. He even wrote books trying to relate blacks and science. Horrible if you ask me. His blackness clearly clouds his judgement, and affects his teaching.

Fixed what you really meant to say, because what you originally said was so maniacal and insane that I could only figure you were hiding your unyielding racism by claiming the prof was a Christian.

 

[sonoma1993]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: DVK916
, This man is a devote christian, and is teaching science to the young minds are my school. Don't you think something is wrong with this. He even wrote books trying to relate religion and god. Horrible if you ask me. His god belief clearly clouds his judgement, and affects his teaching.

You're an idiot.

 

[bcterps]

Pics?

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: CKent
"devout"

Have you had him? If he keeps his beliefs separate from the curriculum he teaches I don't see a problem.

BINGO!!!

That goes for Atheists as well. Just teach the cold hard science, and let people come to their own conclusions.

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: DVK916
, This man is a devote christian, and is teaching science to the young minds are my school. Don't you think something is wrong with this. He even wrote books trying to relate religion and god. Horrible if you ask me. His god belief clearly clouds his judgement, and affects his teaching.

I bet you're the kind to blindly accept the teachings of evolution as fact because you were taught them through grade school. You probably don't even know what creation is aside from "In the beginning..."

 

[poopaskoopa]

So, do you have a specific complaint about what he's said, or done, in the classroom?

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: Seekermeister

Originally posted by: evident
if you've never had him, get a ****** life and stop bitching, i'm tired of all you anti religion retards trying to ignite flame wars, you're just as bad as fundamentalist christians/islamists who try to do the same sh!t

While I might understand your intention, I dislike seeing any form of Christian label paired with an Islamic one. To be a fundamentalist does not a terrorist make. If you are thinking of a few radical people who have committed attrocities in the name of God, their god was not related to Christianity of any form.

Fundamentalist has become a denigrating epithet for anyone who actually believes in God and the Bible. By that definition, I am a fundamentalist. But, I have never considered murdering anyone, nor destroying anyone's property. If you wish to make an issue out of that, that is fine, so long as you keep your terms straight.

Meh, people say fundamentalist when they mean extremist. I think we fundamentalists need to find ourselves a new, less confusing term.

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: CKent
"devout"

Have you had him? If he keeps his beliefs separate from the curriculum he teaches I don't see a problem.

No I haven't.

What is also disturbing is he is teaching a class showing gods so called love and science, outside of the campus. If he teaches this outside of campus who knows what he plans to teach inside his class.

Wow, you are very close minded. If I were you I would seriously reconsider your position on this. Change comes from within afterall...

 

[MercenaryForHire]

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=38&threadid=1802865&arctab=y

http://www.at-wiki.com/wiki/index.php/Who%27s_Who#D

DVK916 - Former member who pretended to be a theist hater. Want all christians dead, he was an asshole, but he left AT.

Editing the Wiki is easy enough, but I'd frankly prefer that you GTFO again.

- M4H

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: DVK916
, This man is a devote christian, and is teaching science to the young minds are my school. Don't you think something is wrong with this. He even wrote books trying to relate religion and god. Horrible if you ask me. His god belief clearly clouds his judgement, and affects his teaching.

Here is what you do:

Get a bunch of drinking buddies together at the local pub and form your own political party. Buy some snappy uniforms to make it all official. Design a simple, but memorable little symbol to catch the people's eye.

Then you can write a book about your struggle. Hell, you can even call it "My Struggle."

Get yourselves elected to higher offices, then declare martial law.

Once you've seized power you can be free to round up all these religious folks and undesirables, throw them in camps and have them work for you, or simply gas them.

Good luck!

 

[AreaCode707]

I think this thread may be the most entertaining thing out there since DessertCart.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: DVK916
, This man is a devote christian, and is teaching science to the young minds are my school. Don't you think something is wrong with this. He even wrote books trying to relate religion and god. Horrible if you ask me. His god belief clearly clouds his judgement, and affects his teaching.

Here is what you do:

Get a bunch of drinking buddies together at the local pub and form your own political party. Buy some snappy uniforms to make it all official. Design a simple, but memorable little symbol to catch the people's eye.

Then you can write a book about your struggle. Hell, you can even call it "My Struggle."

Get yourselves elected to higher offices, then declare martial law.

Once you've seized power you can be free to round up all these religious folks and undesirables, throw them in camps and have them work for you, or simply gas them.

Good luck!

Hail!

- M4H

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: DVK916
, This man is a devote christian, and is teaching science to the young minds are my school. Don't you think something is wrong with this. He even wrote books trying to relate religion and god. Horrible if you ask me. His god belief clearly clouds his judgement, and affects his teaching.

Here is what you do:

Get a bunch of drinking buddies together at the local pub and form your own political party. Buy some snappy uniforms to make it all official. Design a simple, but memorable little symbol to catch the people's eye.

Then you can write a book about your struggle. Hell, you can even call it "My Struggle."

Get yourselves elected to higher offices, then declare martial law.

Once you've seized power you can be free to round up all these religious folks and undesirables, throw them in camps and have them work for you, or simply gas them.

Good luck!

[Guiness] Brilliant! [/Guiness]