Vanguard Feedback Thread

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
The beta client off the dvd is bugged, it never quits updating and my VG directory is over 20Gb in size now, that normal?

Anyone have a link to the full client download from Sony?

I can RAR the beta client I got of FP a while back, and transfer it to you through an IM client. My UL bandwidth is pretty decent, but it'd still take a while.

While I preordered from SOE directly, I didn't actually DL any client, since the beta client just needs some updates and its good to go.

 

[Acanthus]

Now that the game is very near release, what do you guys think of it?

It i just another EQ?

Whatre the advantages / drawbacks?

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Now that the game is very near release, what do you guys think of it?

It i just another EQ?

Whatre the advantages / drawbacks?

Well, EQ in its day was an excellent game.

I've created a level 4 Shaman on the RP Preferred server, Florendryl, or something along those lines. So far, its been fairly easy to complete quests that were harder in beta. Harder because there were more people, at the moment, its just preorder customers. Still a good amount of people in city areas though.

There were also some optimizations that were included, my frame rate is now only slightly higher than it was in beta, but much more consistent. My X2 4200 and X1900XT@1680x1050 Balanced quality typically gives me 35-45 fps, depending where I am.

I'm eager to get into some crafting, but I'm going to save that for when I'm more rested. Leveling isn't overally difficult, at least at the moment. Odds are, I'll make the call whether or not to keep my shaman or create a different character by the end of this weekend.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
The beta client off the dvd is bugged, it never quits updating and my VG directory is over 20Gb in size now, that normal?

Anyone have a link to the full client download from Sony?

I can RAR the beta client I got of FP a while back, and transfer it to you through an IM client. My UL bandwidth is pretty decent, but it'd still take a while.

While I preordered from SOE directly, I didn't actually DL any client, since the beta client just needs some updates and its good to go.

I appreciate the offer, but I hope that it will not come to that....

I reinstalled it and it says 30 minutes to go.

knock on wood..... it maybe going

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
The beta client off the dvd is bugged, it never quits updating and my VG directory is over 20Gb in size now, that normal?

Anyone have a link to the full client download from Sony?

I can RAR the beta client I got of FP a while back, and transfer it to you through an IM client. My UL bandwidth is pretty decent, but it'd still take a while.

While I preordered from SOE directly, I didn't actually DL any client, since the beta client just needs some updates and its good to go.

I appreciate the offer, but I hope that it will not come to that....

I reinstalled it and it says 30 minutes to go.

knock on wood..... it maybe going

20gb definitely isn't right. My install was from the Preorder DVD, and I'm at 16.9gb.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Says it has 2 minutes to go, hope it is right!

 

[Schadenfroh]

It finished! I hope this is as good as I hope it is going to be!


/clicks play

 

[Hadsus]

delete please...duplicate.

 

[Hadsus]

I've been reading some of the official forums.....it appears that Vanguard was designed specifically for groups.........this from their faq:

- 4.15 Is this game all about grouping, or will there be content for solo/casual play as well as raid content for more hard core players? Even if Vanguard is mostly about grouping, how will you deal with players who prefer the other two extremes? Tell me more about casual, group, and raid content and how that dynamic will work in Vanguard.

You will be able to solo. Most casual content will be outdoors or in mini-dungeons. Group content will be in dungeons or in overland adventure areas, Raid content the same, but likely mostly in the depths of our larger dungeons.

Some of you may enjoy soloing in Vanguard, and some of you may find it too tedious or slow or not rewarding enough... Are we designing Vanguard as a solo-oriented game? No. The focus is on grouping. Does that mean we hate soloing and want to make it impossible? No, certainly not.

You will always be more efficient and encouraged to group, even in casual areas, although you won't need a large group. The casual areas are geared towards small groups and also designed such that one can achieve advancement in shorter contiguous chunks of gameplay, so these areas should be attractive not only to the more casual gamer, but even the hard core raid gamer who just has an hour or so to log on and wants to be able to move his character forward in some way.

End faq quote.

I always thought EQ1 was very well balanced. As is WoW. In EQ1, I played a Necro and never grouped. I played a shammy and grouped 50%. The problem I find with group focused games is that it conflicts with questing. When I tried EQ2 people were looking to group but to group in order to fulfill their quests. So it didn't work well IMO. I can tell you that LOTR is looking to be very solo friendly.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Now that the game is very near release, what do you guys think of it?

It i just another EQ?

Whatre the advantages / drawbacks?

Well, EQ in its day was an excellent game.

I've created a level 4 Shaman on the RP Preferred server, Florendryl, or something along those lines. So far, its been fairly easy to complete quests that were harder in beta. Harder because there were more people, at the moment, its just preorder customers. Still a good amount of people in city areas though.

There were also some optimizations that were included, my frame rate is now only slightly higher than it was in beta, but much more consistent. My X2 4200 and X1900XT@1680x1050 Balanced quality typically gives me 35-45 fps, depending where I am.

I'm eager to get into some crafting, but I'm going to save that for when I'm more rested. Leveling isn't overally difficult, at least at the moment. Odds are, I'll make the call whether or not to keep my shaman or create a different character by the end of this weekend.

They more than likely had debug scripts running on the client and server during beta, a small increase is expected, as well as less lag server side.

Aside from the pvp servers, is there any pvp at all? Or is it "yet another treadmill MMO"? Are there end-game goals besides getting more gear (WoW)?

 

[Bateluer]

I hate PvP myself, and avoid it like the plague. Someone else will have to field PvP questions.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Bateluer
I hate PvP myself, and avoid it like the plague. Someone else will have to field PvP questions.

Well the reason i like PvP in MMOs is the horrible AI for pretty much every mob in every game.

It either runs at you and swings periodically, or stands back does something ranged.

The AI is just awful in WoW, EQ, DAOC, etc.

 

[Bateluer]

Servers are coming down now for a patch. There's still some experimentation going on this weekend.

 

[Bateluer]

Here are the 27 Jan patch notes. Seems the fixed the 16x9 issues with the overlapping hotbars.

Welcome to Vanguard: Saga of Heroes January / 27 / 2007
Vanguard Patch Notes 1/27/2007

Welcome to Vanguard: Saga of Heroes!
Congratulations! Your pre-order of Vanguard allows you to be one of the first to witness the exciting, dangerous, and ever-changing world of Telon. Telon is a living world, and like any world its early days is going to be fraught with turbulence. Expect us to have to ?patch? any cracks as they appear for the first days.

We know you are excited to explore the world we created for you, and we are equally excited to have you here. So sit back, relax, and enjoy the landscape? enjoy the freedom? of Vanguard.

GAMEPLAY NOTES
- PVP - Fixed defensive targeting issues on the team PVP rule set.
- PVP - Increased partial spell resist chance for all classes.
- PVP - Decreased chance to break stuns and roots on hit for all classes

CRAFTING NOTES
- Some utility icons have been updated.
- Tier quest completion is now mandatory to learn general skill crafting recipes.
- Specialization and Tier Quests require the crafter to be one level higher to take them now.
- Updated recipe levels for all trades.

DIPLOMACY NOTES
- Players can now choose between all comments on the "Back to Thistle" Quest.
- Advisor Ma'ax no longer lies. He allows players to skip the Diplomacy Tutorial.
- The Voices of Kaerellun now lead Half-Elves to their appropriate Instructor.
- Newbie Diplomacy pants now have a name, description, and give a point of Domestic Presence.
- You can now defeat Abulard Thistle more easily in ?The Best Way to Grasp a Thistle?
- Some decks (like the one on Graag the Ripper) have been made slightly easier to beat ? this corrects almost all problems with players not able to complete parleys due to difficulty.
- Half Elves can now begin the Diplomacy line in Tanvu at Hido Kani Dawnstar.
- Ambiance upgrade in New Targonor and Ahgram.
- After speaking with Bijourn in ?When You?re A Stranger? the correct waypoint is given to the Traveler. For reference, he is on the hill watching you talking to Bijourn.
- The Spirit Rager's Decks have been turned down to "Beatable." They should now no longer smash players with the Hammer of Injustice(TM)
- Leth Nurae ? The skill block for High Elf diplomacy has been removed after the quest ?Tanalion?s Training?, you can proceed as normal.
- Leth Nurae ? Arianna Lanendril now points you in the right direction to find Captain Laenil, she found that her joke of pointing you into the middle of the Kaon infested forest wasn?t that funny after all.
- Qur?xa ? The Sybarite Obliterator and the Effigy of Rage have cast aside their vows of pacifism and will now fight each other to the death. You can now proceed in Kurashasan diplomacy.

WORLD POPULATION NOTES
- Martok Two-Handed Axes should now have the appropriate models
- Quivers and Bolt Cases have been added to Weapon Vendors
- Instruments now require two hands to play (imagine that)
- The Shrine of the Mind in Jalen?s Crossing should no longer punt everyone; gnomes beware, the test was a success!
- Cammora in Jalen?s Crossing is now offering a reward to adventurers who brave elemental arks of the Ark of Harmony
- Low levels dungeons near starting areas have had ?dungeon loot? added to them in order to help prevent player?s equipment from falling far behind their adventuring level; more to come
- The quest, ?Ant Attraction? now sends players in the right direction.
- Redcap pumpkin thieves are now much more common in Rindol Field.
- Jack o? Lanterns now go away after a time in Rindol Field.
- There is now just one map dot for Gwarn?s Boundary.
- Fixed starter training quests so you shouldn?t get them before you need to train.
- Yukiona in the Wildgrowth Forest should now have the correct appearance.
- Named mobs in the Wildgrowth Forest should now be dropping loot.
- Respawn timer on Mussel Shells on the Martok shores has been adjusted.
- Pristine Blacktusk Hides required for the Leather for the Harness quest in Martok will now drop off the intended creature only.
- Graphic on the Boar Cleaver has been updated.
- Fixed minor text issues in several Martok quests.
- Dracosnap Tortoises should now respawn properly.
- Mobs in Martok should no longer show as being stuck.
- Training quests in Martok, Bordinar?s Cleft, and Mekalia should now be handed out at the appropriate level.
- Named NPCs in the Blighted Lands have decided to spend more time with their pet chihuahuas, resulting in a decreased chance to be frowned upon by them.

GUI NOTES
- The combat crossed swords on the player status window will now only show when you are actually in combat.

ART NOTES
- Fix to anisotropic filtering which was preventing it from working under certain drivers in certain circumstances. Should see improved quality for those using anisotropic filtering.
- Full support for variant aspect ratios has been added. Widescreen users should see a noticeable difference in their field of view.

 

[Bateluer]

Bah!


January 27th 2007 ? Saturday 1/27 Patch - EU Server Update


::Update 2:50PM PST::

Due to an issue affecting all realms the EU servers will be down until we can make the necessary corrections. At this time all Servers EU and US are subject to downtime to address this. Thank you everyone for you patience and cooperation during these downtimes, we apologize for any inconvenience these may cause you.

We understand the past day has been frustrating for many, however, we ensure you we constantly improving performance between data centers for better service in the future.

 

[Schadenfroh]

man those first person animations are cheesy, well, I guess no one should be playing an MMO in first person anyway.

 

[Bateluer]

When Florendyl comes back up, my shaman is named Karikian. I did create a half elf monk, but mainly to hold my traditional MMO name until I can play the character more.

 

[Auryg]

So what's the initial verdict on Vanguard? Worth it or just another MMO?

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Auryg
So what's the initial verdict on Vanguard? Worth it or just another MMO?

Hard to tell with my server being down since early this morning. :|

I enjoy the game, the characters, and I think I've found some cool people to travel with . . . but I can't play the game on my server. Other servers are up, but some are down. Its not my style to have alts on every server of an MMO.

 

[Shortass]

Having canceled WoW due to boredom I have my hopes set on this game pretty high, mostly to explore and to get back in touch with my nostalgia for EQ1 (even though I'm sure it's far removed from the original). A couple weeks of waiting are in order but I'd really like some opinions from you early adopters

 

[Bateluer]

Well, the EU servers and the RP server have been down almost all day. What the frick is the point of preordering to play 3 days early when a 1/3 of that time has the servers down. I could play on a normal server, or one of the PvP (Team or FFA) servers, but dividing my limited gaming time is not a good idea.

I want to get at least high enough to get my first horse by the end of the weekend, that requires level 10.

 

[Bateluer]

The servers that were down are now back up. Though, technically, they came back up a few hours ago. I was in game playing. Got my shaman to 7, and began working on my harvesting skills. Tomorrow, I want to get to level 10 and begin crafting.

 

[Shortass]

How does the game seem so far? Compared to WoW and other MMOs?

 

[Mem]

Damn you guys are making me jealous,I have change the thread title to "Vanguard Feedback thread" .


I hope to be in Vanguard by the weekend,got 2 friends joining me from ex-SWG ,so hoping to start our own guild too .


I have decided to install Vanguard on Vista x64 this weekend so will let you know how that goes.

Btw anybody playing the game on Vista?

 

[SunnyD]

Okay, I hate to do this - but I'm going to create a separate thread for tracking which server's we're on if there isn't already one. Incidentally, I'm on Thunderaxe.