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Bateluer

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I'm definitely interested in knowing how the game runs under Vista. Given my fps at 1680x1050, High Quality, I'm not so sure I want to take a 15% hit to upgrade to vista.
 

Mem

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Bateluer: My Vanguard CE is in packing stage so should arrive within a few days,as to performance hit with Vista, I hope the new Nvidia Vista drivers(due 30th I hear) help increase performance,not too bothered to be honest since I'm getting a new DX10 card pretty soon.






 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: Mem
Bateluer: My Vanguard CE is in packing stage so should arrive within a few days,as to performance hit with Vista, I hope the new Nvidia Vista drivers(due 30th I hear) help increase performance,not too bothered to be honest since I'm getting a new DX10 card pretty soon.

Cool, let us know how it goes. Doubt it will make much difference in my case, but I'll be getting an E6600 in a few weeks. Might be good for a little boost.
 

ArchAngel777

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Let me know if the game is worth it... I might pick it up. We should try and all pick the same server if it comes to that... Be cool to play with ya'll.
 

Shortass

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If there's positive feedback here and 5+ guys interested I'm certainly down to roll a character on the same server as the rest (hopefully pvp :))
 

Sentrosi2121

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Been playing Vanguard since Phase 2. Bit different from WoW which was meaningless grinding. Got only one character up to 60 over on Twisting Nether.

Anyway, got a Half-Elf monk named Sentrosi on Varking. Also have one on the RP server, but I'm concentrating on one server at a time. Limited playing this weekend as I squeeze a full 40 hour work week into 3 days. Got him up to level 6, so it's going to be a real nice push to 10, then I'm going to work on diplomacy for a while. Never been a crafter in any MMO but I may try to swing blacksmithing. My guild is in need of them.

So, relevant info;

Name: Sentrosi
Class: Monk
Race: Half Elf
Server: Varking
Guild: Dragonwolves

Float me a PM in game if you have any questions and I'm on.
 

Bateluer

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I didn't make my goal this weekend. My shaman got to level 8, and 4 outfitter, though his harvesting skills for reaping and skinning are decent enough. Well, decent enough to harvest the tier 2 resources. Sad thing is, I can't afford the tier 2 sickle yet. And I can't make bags until I hit level 8 outfitter. A lack of storage space is hampering my efforts though, so either I push hard with the crafting after work today, or I just buy a couple off the brokers.

Seems boat crafting is a substantial undertaking though, requiring lumberjacking/carpentry, reaping and skinning for sails and rigging, and mining/blacksmithing. A few people at Vanguard Roleplayers were speculating that it'll be a task for level 20 to 30 crafters.

I didn't get a chance to start the diplomacy sphere myself, though I had a lot of fun with it in beta. I'll plan on starting that quest tonight.
 

Tremulant

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I pre-ordered, but didn't get a chance to play over the weekend. (I created a character but didn't get to actually play... logged in, server went down and then I had to go out)
 

Schadenfroh

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Preorder prepay ever expire? I might have to hold up picking up the final retail version for another month as I probably will not have time to play. (Note, I am talking about my $10 down payment, I know I will not be able to login)
 

Mem

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Some news on vanguard.

Due to the overwhelming response from our European player base, we are pleased to announce that we will be bringing another European server online. Infinium will be a PVE server located, as with the rest of the European servers, in Amsterdam. The support we've received from our European player base has been tremendous, so a big thanks to all of our players overseas!

Infinium is coming online right now, so log in and check it out!

My CE version is on the way ,so looks like more choices for European servers :).
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Auryg
So what's the initial verdict on Vanguard? Worth it or just another MMO?

don't bother
if you played EQ2 you played this

Uh, no. EQ2's crafting system, though good, is a pale shadow compared to VG. EQ2, though visually stunning, again pales to VG's lush environments and seamless travel. EQ2 only has horse type mounts. VG has all manner of horse types, in addition to boats and flying mounts. EQ2 also has no diplomacy system. VG's diplomacy system is perhaps one of the most important developments in MMO history. :)
 

SunnyD

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Auryg
So what's the initial verdict on Vanguard? Worth it or just another MMO?

don't bother
if you played EQ2 you played this

Uh, no. EQ2's crafting system, though good, is a pale shadow compared to VG. EQ2, though visually stunning, again pales to VG's lush environments and seamless travel. EQ2 only has horse type mounts. VG has all manner of horse types, in addition to boats and flying mounts. EQ2 also has no diplomacy system. VG's diplomacy system is perhaps one of the most important developments in MMO history. :)

On the contrary, EQ2 also has flying carpets.

Anyway... here's a note to everybody - if your performance sucks in vanguard... DEFRAG THE DRIVE IT'S INSTALLED ON (yes, that was caps worthy). Vanguard has been so damn laggy for me since I installed it... only it and EQ2 are on the drive. I defragged today, and holy shnikes, night and day different. The "load" lag was almost completely gone with no other settings changes.
 

Bateluer

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Oops, forgot about the flying carpets. Still, those are tied closely to the ground. VG's wyverns, dragons, griffins, etc, are not.

Edit - The servers will be going down for a patch in a few hours. Estimated downtime is 6 hours.
 

Mem

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I'm impressed with my CE box,big with some nice gear inside,it contains nice cloth map of Vanguard, nice big art book about 125 pages,original game soundtrack on cd,game DVDs(2) , 70 page dvd size manual,free 10 day buddy trial keys(10 of them) and last main key for game .

Installing game at the moment ,and it says on box Vista compatible :).

 

Mem

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Update:I'm having nightmare registering my key,short story on this is I entered it and nothing happens so I wait,still nothing,if I try to relog on it says to subscribe,if I try click on that it asks for me to enter regristration key,I can't use the key again because it says already used.So bascially I can't get in.

I emailed them so hope to get it sorted,the vanguard box was sealed so I know for sure it did except my key first time,but would not let me progress any further.

Update:finally got pass my problem,just kept trying.
 

Mem

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Patch notes.

Vanguard Patch Notes 1/30/2007

Welcome to Vanguard: Saga of Heroes!
Congratulations! You are now one of the first to witness the exciting, dangerous, and ever-changing world of Telon. Telon is a living world, and like any world its early days is going to be fraught with turbulence. Expect us to have to ?patch? any cracks as they appear for the first days.
We know you are excited to explore the world we created for you, and we are equally excited to have you here. So sit back, relax, and enjoy the landscape? enjoy the freedom? of Vanguard.

GAMEPLAY NOTES
- Abilities with a harmful component will no longer put other group members in a PvP contest.
- Spells that change form will no longer allow you to switch PvP teams.
- Quest items can no longer be sold to a merchant

ADVENTURING
- Shaman ? Fixed an issue where you could receive your Patron Spirit quests too early causing you to not learn your Spirit Walk ability if completed before level 15. Those shaman who have finished the quests before level 15 should visit any shaman trainer to get their Spirit Walk ability upon reaching level 15. Followers of Tuurgin who have completed the quest line will need to speak to any Shaman Instructor and say ?patronfix? to receive the Spirit Walk ability. NOTE: This only applies to those shaman who have completed the Patron Spirit questlines prior to this patch OR who were not yet level 15 when completed.

CRAFTING NOTES
- The Thestran amateur blacksmith quest now requires only three pairs of sabatons, not four.
- The quest the Artist?s Supplies will now ask for a specific type of quartz jewel.

DIPLOMACY NOTES
- The travel journal for ?Stop the Calamity? has been updated with the correct location for Norrie Bilstro.
- Fixed issue with ?Obtaining the Documents? in which you could speak with the quest targets in the wrong order, requiring you to start over again.
- Telyn Boarmaul will no longer try to kill orcs and goblins who try to take the horse quest from him. Caution in Ca?ail Brael is still advised for greenskin visitors?
- Martok now has Civic Diplomacy for Soldiers and Crafters. Greenskins rejoice!
- Mekalia now has Civic Diplomacy for Crafters. Bring Low the Underking!
- Martok and Mekalia?s Civic Diplomacy Trainers are now turned on and ready to train YOU!
- Graag has been made to heel quite a bit more in the newbie varanthari line. He should be easier to beat.
- The Spiritragers got the hint from Graag and have fallen in line with the others. They should be easier to beat.
- Hubert Ringsworth is no longer a terrifying opponent for young halfling diplomats. And he tells me he loves pumpkin and potato compote.
- Other decks here and there were also altered to make them a little more reasonable to play against. This will be an ongoing process.
- Kev Wematmani has remembered he is of noble blood, and not just a bookworm. He is now a Noble and you can proceed with the Civic Diplomacy Training quest in Khal.
- Increase the Watch now gives out the proper Accuracy buff.
- You should no longer receive double credit for Civic Diplomacy in Hathor Zhi.
- C?estari Erenai as well as many other NPCs have had their decks altered to make them more appropriate opponents. This will be an ongoing process.
- Civic Diplomacy Domestic levers removed from Ca?ail Brael. No Domestics in the city means no need for Domestic levers!
- Greatly decreased the decay rate of Civic Diplomacy levers in all Civic Diplomacy locations. Buffs will remain for a longer period of time as a result.
- There is now a Blackmail, Plots, Trends, and Arcana Informant in Three Rivers/Themnwar?s Shield and Veskal?s Exchange for your information trading needs!
- Apprentice Dalenax no longer does whatever it is gnomes do to not be in line of sight when you are looking right at them.

WORLD POPULATION NOTES
- Niyuturr's Scaled Greaves should now be appropriately named.
- Added a bindstone just outside of Tanvu city (PvP?ers rejoice!).
- Moved the altar in Jalen?s Crossing to an area with no NPC?s (and so ended the era of infinite death loops).

GUI NOTES
- Updated the trade window to color item names and a few other minor fixes.
- Items in a player trade will now show the correct stats and other data.

CODING
- Your characters' server names are now shown in the character select list.
- Items in a bank will now show the correct stats.
- The market brokers will now give proper information about why you can't place an item on the market.

~The Vanguard Team
 

Mem

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I can confirm Vanguard works fine with Vista x64 :).

Level 4 Blood Mage at the moment.
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: Mem
I can confirm Vanguard works fine with Vista x64 :).

Level 4 Blood Mage at the moment.

Whats your hardware, what detail settings are you running VG at, and what are your FPS? Ctrl-P to get the in-game FPS counter.
 

Mem

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
Originally posted by: Mem
I can confirm Vanguard works fine with Vista x64 :).

Level 4 Blood Mage at the moment.

Whats your hardware, what detail settings are you running VG at, and what are your FPS? Ctrl-P to get the in-game FPS counter.

Hardware same has my Epox rig sig,running at 1680x1050,shadows off,turned some of the bars down to 50%,as to FPS will test that tomorrow.


37-45 FPS on average.
 

Bateluer

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There were patches on 31 Jan and 1 Feb, but I'll only post the 2 Feb patch notes.

Vanguard Patch Notes 2/2/2007 for build 1733

GAMEPLAY NOTES

- Enemies will no longer be tagged by damage over time spells and attacks after you have died.
- Enemies will no longer show as ?aggro? as the result of damage over time spells and attacks after you have died.
- You will no longer gain or lose faction from an NPC your group killed if you're not involved in the kill.
- You now receive an alert message each time you progress in ability learning for an ability, instead of only at the start and the end.
- Fixed a bug that was causing inflated PvP spell damage.
- Reenabled coin storage for banks. You can now drag and drop coin from your inventory into your bank. Note: Coin storage in banks is global, you may access your banked coin from any bank, not just the bank you deposited it in.

ADVENTURING

- Bard ? Increased the movement modifier on Tynen?s Melody of Acceleration to 28%
- Bard ? Decreased the movement modifier on Tynen's Coda of Velocity to 3% from 5%
- Bard - Decreased the movement modifier on Tynen's Strain of the Swift to 2% from 3%
- Druid - Star Mantle should now last three hits.
- Druid - Summon Ancient Colossus is now obtained at level 50
- Druid - Retooled the abilities on the Ancient and Elder Colossi.
- Necromancer - Adjusted the level at which Necromancers can obtain the Art of Death quest (Rest of the Dead) from Level 16 to Level 20. If you have previously completed this quest line and did not automatically learn Rest of the Dead, check your trainer and it should be available at level 20.
- Necromancer ? Removed Claw of Stunning, Face of Fright and Face of Cowering from the game. If you had these items they will now show up as red circles with red strikes through them. Please delete these from your inventories. Sorry for the inconvenience.
- Necromancer ? Renamed Poison Claw to be Poisonous Claw.
- Necromancer ? Poisonous Claw should now be functioning
- Necromancer ? Adjusted Poisonous Claw to the correct levels.
- Necromancer ? Renamed Gouging Claw to Diseased Claw.
- Necromancer ? Adjusted Diseased Claw to the correct levels.
- Necromancer ? Diseased Claw should now be functioning
- Necromancer ? Adjusted Sapping Claw to the correct levels.
- Necromancer ? Sapping Claw should now be functioning
- Warrior ? Most commands now have seconds durations rather than number of attacks or hits.

CRAFTING NOTES

- Crafting Advisors have more information! If you need information on crafting, visit your local crafting advisor.
- Fixed issue with tin rune of strength that was preventing it from working properly
- Updated etching knives to be flagged as the proper tool type
- Updated improved saws to be flagged as proper tool type
- Fixed issue with some bags that were not allowing you to put certain items in them
- Reduced drop rate on orbs drastically
- Removed Ladle from tables as it is not used
- Fixed issue with some repair tools not being recognized
- Updated all adventuring light armor base AC values
- Improved saw now acts like a saw, not a chisel.
- Khal trainers should now have the novice grip recipe.
- Kojan and Ahgram now also have merchants that sell unusual or special crafting items.
- Sharon Whelson will now properly change your trade if you are not an outfitter.
- Increased crafting skill gain.
- Added crafting gear upgrade recipes to Outfitter instructors.
- Adding raw resources to work orders now give quality increase.
- Leth Nurae taskmasters now pause much longer in their routes around the crafting area.
- Boosted faction rewards for the following crafting quests: Arming the Shaletooth Tower, Shaletooth Armor, and Shaletooth Weaponry.

DIPLOMACY NOTES

- ?Sidestepping? is now a timed quest of ten minutes.
- Increase the Watch now gives an even better correct Accuracy buff.
- There are now Blackmail, Plots, Trends, and Arcana Informants in Tawar Galan, Qa Riverbank, and Dark Horse Downs for your Information trading needs!
- Ongoing deck fixes.
- Graag, Sassti, and Cassus now have a short leash ? they want to kill varanthari, but not to the point that they?ll actually chase you across Lomshir.
- New Diplomacy quests added to Three Rivers.
- Janus Thunderaxe no longer thinks he has anything to do with newbie diplomats and should no longer offer any quests.
- The comedic troop, Three and a Half Fools, has made a stop in Three Rivers and has a few quests for curious diplomats.
- The Messenger Boots will now give the card ?Well-Traveled Wisdom.? To get this card, right click the boots to put them on, and then right click them again to get the card. From then on, you can drag the item to and from your bag and retain the card. The card ?Well-Traveled Wisdom? can only be played if you are wearing the boots.
- Coin values of Diplomacy clothing adjusted.
- Rarity values of Diplomacy clothing adjusted.
- There is now a safe path from the docks of New Targonor to the continent of Thestra. King Targonor Furth has agreed to open a corridor from the docks to the bridge to the mainland. Watchmen and Enforcers will allow ALL players to proceed. All House guards, and the King?s guard, will attack KOS races on sight.
- Martok ? The bar fights and war drums have faded just enough for people to start talking again in the city of Martok. The civic diplomacy trainer is hooked up and ready to go in Martok as are the soldiers and crafters in the city. This will hit the Friday morning patch.
- Mekalia ? The Gnomes have finally figured out what the upsiders call ?Diplomacy? and have readily adopted the custom of doing what other people tell them to do. On Friday?s patch Civic Diplomacy will be ready in Mekalia for soldiers and crafters.
- Consequently, some gnome constables have grown confused as to what they should be doing: practicing swordplay, or talking about their feelings. The Downside is getting almost as confusing as the Upside these days.
- Information Brokers should now be asking for, and taking, the correct amount of information.
- The Civic Diplomacy Benefit ?Right of Way? now is giving the right percentage of benefit.
- Clergy Civic Diplomacy now active in Tanvu.
- Academic Civic Diplomacy now active in Tanvu.
- Info loot drop rates adjusted.

WORLD POPULATION NOTES

- Rendjaw should now have the correct model
- Ants in the quest ?Ants Underfoot? should correctly assist each other
- Luc Beou should now have a body (everyone needs one, after all)
- Dracosnap Hunters should now have the correct model
- Faction changes in the Coast of Ahgramun should now show the correct names
- Death text has been fixed for all Cult of Tauth supporters
- The Angoer Bunkers have had a speed tunnel installed.
- Pyromaw Cubs should now release their spiritual essence when defeated
- Bordinar?s Cleft ? The Ridge Prowlers of Bordinar?s Cleft have had population adjustment to be much more in-line with player progression.
- Bordinar?s Cleft - Miner Youngsteel no longer speaks as if he is Miner Yulas in the quest ?Ale For Grandir?
- Dahknarg - Adjusted aggro radii for several mobs on the road between Dahknarg and Halgarad.
- Dahknarg - Modified the Blood Howler Runner in Dahknarg. He's now more focused on getting his messages to the Bloodhowler camp and less focused on chasing people down--that is unless you have lots of negative faction with the Bloodhowlers!
- Evendusk Fortress - Moved the death location for the area around Evendusk Fortress closer to Evendusk Fortress itself.
- House of Fallen Leaves - Mailbox added to House of Fallen Leaves
- Mekalia - Ranged Weapon Vendor added within the gates of Mekalia
- Mekalia - Quests missing coin reward have been corrected to award appropriate amounts of coin
- Missive Boards - Missives are now selectable by the player and players are able to accept multiple missives at a time for the level range
- Missive Boards - Missives are now affected by a minimum level and a maximum level, players outside the scope in either direction are inable to partake in them
- Missive Boards - The Missive Task, ?Task for Three Rivers: Road to Bordinar?s Cleft? now completes in the field upon meeting the requirements
- Missive Boards - The Missive Task, ?Task for Three Rivers: Greater Stonesmashers? is now working as intended
- New Targonor - The New Targonor guard plowed the road from their great castle through to Three Rivers? much, much safer to travel on now for players of all levels!
- Temple of Dailuk - Overland population layout has been redone and thinned out some to make it easier to take more than two steps.
- Temple of Dailuk - The missive boards now lets you choose which and how many missives you want, according to your level. This change will soon be coming to all missive boards.
- Temple of Dailuk - The Caverns of Noztgha population has been adjusted to be more suitable for trio groups, rather than requiring a full group.
- Temple of Dailuk - Several quests have been added to the residents of the beacons. Look for those quest bangs!
- Temple of Dailuk - Quest: Deciphering the Journal no longer requires you to return to Archaeologist Palpe Rengoa and now only requires one writing sample. Once you have the sample, you must right-click it in your inventory to complete the quest for further progression. If you are currently on this quest, you will need to abandon it and accept it again from Archaeologist Palpe Rengoa at the Beacon of Hafeez al'Azzimat.
- Temple of Dailuk - Adjusted the loot rewards for finishing quest line in Caverns of Noztgha.
- Temple of Dailuk - Nerksawl has even less depth perception with his one eye and will aggro players at a much lesser distance.
- Themnwar?s Shield - Greatly reduced the spawn rate of ?Stonebane? at Themnwar?s Shield
- Tursh - Additional delivery quest added in Tursh to help direct solo players.
- Three Rivers - Signs added to the path from Three Rivers to New Targonor
- Three Rivers - Removed grotesque means of accomplishing the ?Arms? quests in Three Rivers
- Three Rivers - The quest ?Outlaws: Rewarding Our Heroes? has been fixed
- Three Rivers - Saps associated with Barsagal?s quest lines now stack in amounts equivalent (or greater) to amount required for completion
- Three Rivers - Chickens and Sheep no longer appear with white names within Three Rivers
- Three Rivers - Clusters of Draven?s Outlaws have been adjusted to be more solo / duo friendly
- Quests - ?Corrupt Cyclopes? has had some minor changes primarily to help lead players to the correct completion NPC
- Quests - Minor text changes and Travel Journal Entries added to the following quests:
- Talons of Telon
- Dissention
- Stifling Supply Lines
- Assist the Primalist
- Prisoners of the Coven
- A Solemn Request
- What Are They Looking For

Bind Stones
- Added a bind stone near Jalen?s Crossing
- Added a bind stone near Autumnglow Outpost

GUI NOTES

- You will now be able to abandon a timed quest.

CODING

- You will now see a message when a VanguardPlayers image is taken.
- 22 new socials have been added. Type "/listcommands emote" for a list of all socials.
- Half Elf NPCs will now play half elf sounds instead of Kojani human sounds.
- Item links should now always show the correct stats and equipment expertise for the person viewing the item.
- Auto Coin Split now defaults to on for groups.
- You should now no longer be able to mail items and coin to yourself. This was always the intent. You can still mail items and coin to alts.
- Items can now be sent as cash on delivery through the mail system. On the receiving end, players will get a confirmation for the total amount to take the item that includes the cash on delivery cost and the shipping cost.

~The Vanguard Team
 

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I am severely liking this game now. It consistently surprises me... I've been level 10 for 3 days now, not for lack of trying either.
 

ArchAngel777

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Well, if the game is in stock, I am going to pick it up shortly... I don't know much about the game (their damn website lacks any information on it besides joining it) so I hope I don't feel royaly screwed. However, I did look at the screenshots and it reminds me a lot of DAOC (the look) and that was my favorite MMO of all time... So, I am hoping this game will bring some good memories. Before I open the box, I will check here again to make sure any of you don't have any warnings...

Again, the only thing I am displeased with about this MMO so far is the lack of information on their website about it. No class guides, no general discription that I could find (I looked for 10 minutes! Maybe I am blind).

What server are you guys on?
 

ArchAngel777

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Installing the game now... So far so good as far as the install is going. Currently the system is patching itself... Pretty excited but I have no idea what class to play or what not... Thinking a Sorcerer, Paladin or a Warrior.
 

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Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Well, if the game is in stock, I am going to pick it up shortly... I don't know much about the game (their damn website lacks any information on it besides joining it) so I hope I don't feel royaly screwed. However, I did look at the screenshots and it reminds me a lot of DAOC (the look) and that was my favorite MMO of all time... So, I am hoping this game will bring some good memories. Before I open the box, I will check here again to make sure any of you don't have any warnings...

Again, the only thing I am displeased with about this MMO so far is the lack of information on their website about it. No class guides, no general discription that I could find (I looked for 10 minutes! Maybe I am blind).

What server are you guys on?

check Vanguard Vault for more info on game info and for other links that have more info.