Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

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lotus503

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Er, yea, I'm denying because spidey and I aren't the same person/account. You're the one that's alleging it. Lets see your proof, or, at least, the logic you used, to get to that conclusion.

You're a "C level" executive, this shouldn't be a problem for you. All execs know how to CYA/BS...

Still waiting...

Ok so now we can add liar to the list along with bigot and racist.

Just to be clear, when you were banned from that thread you did not log in and reply from the chucky account?

I want to make sure of your position On this.
 

airdata

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No, the point here is from GZ's perspective, he's checking out a person in his crime ridden neighborhood who looks suspicious. Then he's waiting for police. Then he gets jumped by said 17 year old thug.



Sorry, no instigation found without applying emo logic. Please repost with no emo using available facts of case.

This'll be good..... :rolleyes:

Since you keep saying Emo i'm going to assume you're 15-16 years old since no adult talks that way.

Zimmerman's perspective actually means very little. That he goes after Trayvon because he thinks he's somebody he isn't means nothing to the actual case... that's simply another item on the long list of bad judgement calls he made that night, and throughout his pathetic life.

On the recoreded phone call he says " these assholes always get away ", " he's running " then he opens and shuts his car door because he's going after trayvon and says " fucking punks ".

So here he is in the middle of a rainy evening chasing after a 17 year old kid who he has witnessed do nothing wrong. He's referred to him as a fucking punk, and made it clear he's not going to let that asshole get away.

That is instigation. He's chasing after a 17 year old kid and likely leaves that 17 year old kid w\ no other option but to defend himself. Then in an adrenaline filled rage from getting punched in the face a few times he pulls his gun and without warning shoots him dead.

That's murder. Surely Trayvon would have complied w\ whatever he said if he had time to process that he had a gun on pointed at him... but he wasn't given the luxury of that. Zimmerman just killed him.
 

chucky2

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Ok so now we can add liar to the list along with bigot and racist.

Just to be clear, when you were banned from that thread you did not log in and reply from the chucky account?

I want to make sure of your position On this.

I wasn't banned from that thread, and only have one account on AT. Why don't you do as spidey suggested, and contact the mods and have them post here publically, and everywhere else you've said I'm spidey, if I'm spidey or not.

"C level" exec....you amuse me. You never answered btw...how many do you have under you? 'C level' sounds like you should have at least a few hundred amirite?
 
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spidey07

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I wasn't banned from that thread, and only have on account on AT. Why don't you do as spidey suggested, and contact the mods and have them post here publically, and everywhere else you've said I'm spidey, if I'm spidey or not.

"C level" exec....you amuse me. You never answered btw...how many do you have under you? 'C level' sounds like you should have at least a few hundred amirite?

Not only that I've gone into great detail on my state of kentucky, the CCDW classes, what's covered. MY IPs come from KY. During the day it's from 12 dot.

If you're from IL, then you can't carry and wouldn't likely have this training.

It's how one can tell team skittles is totally defeated, no argument left, only insults, deflections and baseless accusations.
 

JKing106

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Not insulting you, just accurately discribing you. One can't objectively look at this incident and the evidence available and be emo. Emo clouds all logic and has people jumping to emo based conclusions. Which is what we see from you emo posters. That you don't even think that's a problem is telling...

I'd rather be "emo" than a sociopath.
 

lotus503

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I wasn't banned from that thread, and only have on account on AT. Why don't you do as spidey suggested, and contact the mods and have them post here publically, and everywhere else you've said I'm spidey, if I'm spidey or not.

"C level" exec....you amuse me. You never answered btw...how many do you have under you? 'C level' sounds like you should have at least a few hundred amirite?

I don't need to prove anything to the board, I know what happened.

I watch that thread spidey created, saw him get his timeout, saw chucky show up and answering all of the spidey questions about his job. I pointed it out on that thread.

We both know what's what I don't need to spend my limited time pointing out what we both know is true.

At least on that day the piloting the banned spidey account was posting as chucky.

To say otherwise just means your a fucking liar on top if all the other defects.

If you want to be honest about it, I'll share some of my employment details, otherwise I have no time for racist lying scumbags.
 

spidey07

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I don't need to prove anything to the board, I know what happened.

I watch that thread spidey created, saw him get his timeout, saw chucky show up and answering all of the spidey questions about his job. I pointed it out on that thread.

We both know what's what I don't need to spend my limited time pointing out what we both know is true.

At least on that day the piloting the banned spidey account was posting as chucky.

To say otherwise just means your a fucking liar on top if all the other defects.

If you want to be honest about it, I'll share some of my employment details, otherwise I have no time for racist lying scumbags.

Notice the insults, deflections and accusations. It says "I am totally and utterly defeated, I have nothing intelligent to offer any longer".
 

chucky2

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Since you keep saying Emo i'm going to assume you're 15-16 years old since no adult talks that way.

Well, adults who know what emo is talk to emos that way. Which is why I'm talking to you and the other emos that way.

Zimmerman's perspective actually means very little. That he goes after Trayvon because he thinks he's somebody he isn't means nothing to the actual case... that's simply another item on the long list of bad judgement calls he made that night, and throughout his pathetic life.

Uh, no, that's the entire point of this incident. It is stunning you'd say that. Even think that. I can't even believe you just admitted you think that here. Holy sh1t....

On the recoreded phone call he says " these assholes always get away ", " he's running " then he opens and shuts his car door because he's going after trayvon and says " fucking punks ".

Right. Exactly. He suspects TM is one of the people in his complex up to no good, which is why he says 'these @ssholes always get away". Then TM proves his suspicions right when he takes off running, at least from GZs perspective (who does not have the benefit of precognition). Upon which, GZ legally and well within his rights as a US citizen gets out of his truck and goes to see where TM went, and, given his earlier preconception of TM, and then backed up by TM running, confirms his earlier suspicion with "f*cking punks". What up to this point is a problem? So far GZ hasn't done or said one thing wrong.

So here he is in the middle of a rainy evening chasing after a 17 year old kid who he has witnessed do nothing wrong. He's referred to him as a fucking punk, and made it clear he's not going to let that asshole get away.

Except from GZs perspective, the one that actually matters because it explains GZs actions and statements, he's trying to keep track of a suspicious individual in his crime ridden complex who's just confirmed he's suspicious and likely a F'ing punk by running. In which case, in GZs mind (and in the mind of the police had they actually been there, as if you run from the PoPo, they generally assume you need to be caught, and hence, chase you), he's perfectly justified in initially pursuing TM. Of course, GZ is completely legal in all of this, since it's his right as a citizen to get out of his truck whenever he wants and walk wherever he wants on public property (wherever the public is allowed that is).

That is instigation.

Wrong, see above.

He's chasing after a 17 year old kid and likely leaves that 17 year old kid w\ no other option but to defend himself.

The option the 17 year old kid had was to ask GZ what his problem was, and tell him he lives here and is walking home. And when GZ said 'Oh, sorry man' and called the cops back and said false alarm, everything would have been fine. Or, when GZ said, 'Well, I called the cops, stick around', TM could have stuck around and then stuck it back in GZs face GZ made the wrong call. Or, if he didn't want to face GZ, been home in tens of seconds. He chose none of those other, far far better, options.

An Then in an adrenaline filled rage from getting punched in the face a few times he pulls his gun and without warning shoots him dead.

I'm sure GZ was hyped on on adrenaline. Rage? Prove it. Pulls his gun and shoots while on his back and getting beat? Sounds like he followed the law. Which means he broke no law. Which means there shouldn't even be charges filed. If he broke no law then why are charges filed?

That's murder. Surely Trayvon would have complied w\ whatever he said if he had time to process that he had a gun on pointed at him... but he wasn't given the luxury of that. Zimmerman just killed him.

No, that's killing. Surely Trayvon could have done basically anything else that night to keep from ending up in the situation he ended up in, but, he surely didn't. He didn't give himself that luxury.

Emo debunking ended.

Chuck
 
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lotus503

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Notice the insults, deflections and accusations. It says "I am totally and utterly defeated, I have nothing intelligent to offer any longer".

Nope just pointing out the truth, your the one that has to live with being a lying piece of shit.

I'll sleep fine thanks pointing that fact out.
 

cybrsage

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"C level" exec....you amuse me. You never answered btw...how many do you have under you? 'C level' sounds like you should have at least a few hundred amirite?

He is claiming to be a CxO.

The highest-level executives are usually called "C-level" or part of the "C-suite," referring to the 3-letter initials starting with "C" and ending with "O" (for "Chief __________ Officer"); the traditional offices are Chief Executive Officer (CEO), Chief Operations Officer (COO), and Chief Financial Officer (CFO).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_title

My wife says she is the CFO of the cybrsage and family company...though I do grant that she is VERY good with money. I am not, so I readily stand back and let her handle it.
 

chucky2

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I don't need to prove anything to the board, I know what happened. snip

Hey, "C level". You're throwing it out there, prove it. The thread wasn't from a year ago, it was the last week or two. You should easily be able to find it. Click Search, Advanced Search, input your handle, chose just P&N, and click Search Now. I'm sure you'll be able to find it easily. Post it on up when you find it... :whiste:
 
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Geosurface

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Can someone point me to where in the law it says that you may not defend your life if the beating, complete with broken nose and 45% of your head covered in blood, is a weak ass little beating according to casual observers?

Or where in the law it says that the beating is required to be severe?

I'll be waiting.
 

Geosurface

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yes lotus, we know... we know... and building 7 was a controlled demolition and James Holmes was part of a covert brain control program, and there was another shooter in the theater that night.

lotus there was a point in this thread, earlier on, when I respected you. I even thought you were more cool-headed and objective about this than I am, but that ship has sailed, then burned, then sank.

You are getting nuttier, and nuttier. Even ignoring this spidey/chucky issue... you are off the deep end lately, and pumping out very little but insults and hissy fits.

I'll be hoping you regain your footing.
 

lotus503

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lotus503

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yes lotus, we know... we know... and building 7 was a controlled demolition and James Holmes was part of a covert brain control program, and there was another shooter in the theater that night.

lotus there was a point in this thread, earlier on, when I respected you. I even thought you were more cool-headed and objective about this than I am, but that ship has sailed, then burned, then sank.

You are getting nuttier, and nuttier. Even ignoring this spidey/chucky issue... you are off the deep end lately, and pumping out very little but insults and hissy fits.

I'll be hoping you regain your footing.

coming from you thats a compliment, if I am ever normal in yoru eyes soemething is way wrong
 

JKing106

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What do we have to say to get the old JK back?

So you can get perverse pleasure out of me saying the one word you want to say so bad, but don't have the balls to? Come on, you can do it yourself. You say it every day to your other white trash friends. Don't be a pussy.
 

chucky2

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chucky2

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So you can get perverse pleasure out of me saying the one word you want to say so bad, but don't have the balls to? Come on, you can do it yourself. You say it every day to your other white trash friends. Don't be a pussy.

Yes! Yes! Yes! That's the JK I love to read! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 

lotus503

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Holy F...you are even more dumb than I suspected. That is your "proof"???? Ha Haha Hahahahahahahahha....oh man that's too funny.

Lets cap it off: When you meant "C level", exactly what did you mean? How many people are under you? What do you do?

I F'ng cannot wait to hear this, I have a very strong feeling we're going to get some awesome entertainment here...

Chuck

Why else would you respond as spidey?

I am the CTO for a private company in Portland Oregon. 140 employees of which I have 12 direct reports with 60 people in my org.

We know your tech support or something and have no grasp of how upper management operates or makes business decisions.