Uganda Debates Death Penalty for Gays

[werepossum]

No. The Roman Catholic Church's position on capital punishment for ANY crime is that the practice should be abolished. This has more to do with the phobia of the local culture/society.

What, didn't you read Ausm's and Robor's posts? ANY rejection of any part of the liberal/gay rights agenda - whether it's gay marriage or explaining fisting to school children - is equivalent to supporting the death penalty for homosexuality. In fact, our refusal to embrace gay marriage in particular no doubt drove the Ugandans to do this. You can't blame them, they're such children.

Since I support gay marriage but not explaining fisting to school children, I demand to be considered responsible only for Ugandans voting to beat the tar out of homosexuals; it's those anti marriage equality right wing extremist wing nut hate mongers that are responsible for the death penalty thing. Let's get 'em!

 

[Robor]

What, didn't you read Ausm's and Robor's posts? ANY rejection of any part of the liberal/gay rights agenda - whether it's gay marriage or explaining fisting to school children - is equivalent to supporting the death penalty for homosexuality. In fact, our refusal to embrace gay marriage in particular no doubt drove the Ugandans to do this. You can't blame them, they're such children.

Since I support gay marriage but not explaining fisting to school children, I demand to be considered responsible only for Ugandans voting to beat the tar out of homosexuals; it's those anti marriage equality right wing extremist wing nut hate mongers that are responsible for the death penalty thing. Let's get 'em!

WTF? I blamed religion for the 'moral values' being applied here. How did you jump to fisting? That's another topic and another thread. Since when is fisting a gay thing anyway? I mean, I've seen... Um, nevermind... :sneaky:

Agenda? Um, yeah... Those pesky gays and their wanting *EQUAL* rights. :\

 

[Robor]

No. The Roman Catholic Church's position on capital punishment for ANY crime is that the practice should be abolished. This has more to do with the phobia of the local culture/society.

Where did that phobia/culture come from?

 

[theflyingpig]

When I saw your name, I know I'd see an immoral post in the thread, and I was right. How typical that you have no concept of any morality as a member of the human race.

How about we take the position that if someone wants to come murder you, our position, the police's position, is 'who cares?' You are despicable and immoral.

I'm laughing at you, Craig234. I'm laughing at you because you are all talk. You're not going to do anything about this besides post on the internet. For all your talk about morality, you and I will do the same thing about this -- nothing. Everyone knows this.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Quick, lets invade Africa and instill your values on them.

Or what else were you suggesting if it's immoral to NOT do something?

Whities already extract everything of value out of africa; there's no incentive to civilize them.

 

[alchemize]

Heh funny to see the libs get all excited about this one. They could give two shits when gays get stoned in an islamic country, but a ass-backwards christian country does it and has some ties to the US, THAT'S worth discussion.

Just as wrong here as in Iran, anyone who supports it is despicable.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

In other news raping women and children will still be encouraged.

 

[Craig234]

Heh funny to see the libs get all excited about this one. They could give two shits when gays get stoned in an islamic country, but a ass-backwards christian country does it and has some ties to the US, THAT'S worth discussion.

Just as wrong here as in Iran, anyone who supports it is despicable.

What the hell are you making up? I've repatedly and consistently posted my abhorrance for Islamic nations on this, and haven't seen one person liberal or otherwise say what you claim.

 

[Robor]

Heh funny to see the libs get all excited about this one. They could give two shits when gays get stoned in an islamic country, but a ass-backwards christian country does it and has some ties to the US, THAT'S worth discussion.

Just as wrong here as in Iran, anyone who supports it is despicable.

I call bs on that. Killing gays for being gay in Africa is no better/worse than killing a woman for adultery in the ME. They're both horrible and barbaric acts.

 

[Pocatello]

This is an outrage! OK, outrage is over, time for lunch.

 

[Atreus21]

I'm sure the dabate there will be as excellent as the debate here by the anti-marriage euality people.

It's just another immoral ressult from the same bigotry. Will bigots here get the point?: Unlikely.

Yes, clearly, being against gay marriage is morally equivalent to seeking the death of all gays.

Get a clue, seriously.

 

[fskimospy]

Heh funny to see the libs get all excited about this one. They could give two shits when gays get stoned in an islamic country, but a ass-backwards christian country does it and has some ties to the US, THAT'S worth discussion.

Just as wrong here as in Iran, anyone who supports it is despicable.

Can you show a single solitary post where someone on here defended or brushed off gay people being stoned to death in an islamic country? Maybe there's some crazy guy on here who said that once, but for the life of me I can't remember anyone ever taking such a horrible position.

I think you are once again inventing a position for people you disagree with to hold.

 

[Patranus]

If is funny to see the liberals come out of the wood work and try and take the moral high ground while throwing unborn babies and the elderly under the bus.

 

[Pens1566]

That would be "wood work"

And an excellent strawman btw ...

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Thank goodness our own radical right-wing evangelicals are are not like that.

To bad our liberal left wing nuts are able to use their freedom of speech to try and tell other people to STFU.
You keep saying it's immoral for people to disapprove of homosexuality, but those people feel homosexuality is immoral.
Morality is a personal thing. Your morality isn't the same as mine.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

I call bs on that. Killing gays for being gay in Africa is no better/worse than killing a woman for adultery in the ME. They're both horrible and barbaric acts.

But we should be tolerant of other cultures. Isn't that the mantra of the liberal?

 

[Patranus]

But we should be tolerant of other cultures. Isn't that the mantra of the liberal?

That is what the great Barak Obama preached when he went on his apologize for America tour earlier this year.

We simply cannot project our morals onto other cultures.

 

[fskimospy]

But we should be tolerant of other cultures. Isn't that the mantra of the liberal?

As I asked alchemize, can you point me to a single solitary posting on here where someone you think of as a 'librul' has advocated tolerance of another culture murdering people?

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

As I asked alchemize, can you point me to a single solitary posting on here where someone you think of as a 'librul' has advocated tolerance of another culture murdering people?

Your use of slang to mock my saying LIBERAL shows your immaturity in being able to debate a subject. A post comes up about Muslims and the LIBERALS say we shouldn't judge them and condemn them just because of their religion or culture. Facts are, Muslim nations practice Sharia Law which advocates stoning, cutting out tounges, chopping off hands and feet and whipping. Even if the person is the VICTIM of a crime like rape.
You can't pick and choose what portions of a culture you say we should embrace and which we shouldn't. The CULTURE as a whole embraces what we see as good and bad and you have to evaluate the WHOLE culture based on it's totality because that is what defines the culture. Advocating tolerance of Muslim nations (culture) is advocating a culture that murders people and mutilates people. A true Muslim would embrace Sharia Law as it is what The Prophet Mohammad and the Koran require to be a faithful Muslim.

 

[Ausm]

To bad our liberal left wing nuts are able to use their freedom of speech to try and tell other people to STFU.
You keep saying it's immoral for people to disapprove of homosexuality, but those people feel homosexuality is immoral.
Morality is a personal thing. Your morality isn't the same as mine.

Then why does your side constantly ram their "moral" values down everyone's throat?

 

[MovingTarget]

But we should be tolerant of other cultures. Isn't that the mantra of the liberal?

Sure, liberals on average believe that moral relativism comes into play somewhat, but overall I think that most 'liberals' here in the US do see that as having limits. There are some universal moral imperatives that shouldn't change between cultures.

 

[Pens1566]

Is this the new "cure"?

 

[VashHT]

If is funny to see the liberals come out of the wood work and try and take the moral high ground while throwing unborn babies and the elderly under the bus.

Yeah, why are we killin' babies and old people when we could be killing gays!!! oh wait...

 

[alchemize]

I never said liberals* support it, I said they could give two shits about it when islamic countries do it. Pretty much like everything shameful in islam, the left wing response is "but but christians/republicans!"...or "yah all religions are bad islam is no worse than any other"...

Couple of examples:
Iran? Thread ignored by pretty much every common posting leftie/partisan dem in the forum


Iran? No this thread is about christians!



*Again I abuse the word liberal, and hate to do that. I replace it with lefties/partisan dems.

 

[fskimospy]

Your use of slang to mock my saying LIBERAL shows your immaturity in being able to debate a subject. A post comes up about Muslims and the LIBERALS say we shouldn't judge them and condemn them just because of their religion or culture. Facts are, Muslim nations practice Sharia Law which advocates stoning, cutting out tounges, chopping off hands and feet and whipping. Even if the person is the VICTIM of a crime like rape.
You can't pick and choose what portions of a culture you say we should embrace and which we shouldn't. The CULTURE as a whole embraces what we see as good and bad and you have to evaluate the WHOLE culture based on it's totality because that is what defines the culture. Advocating tolerance of Muslim nations (culture) is advocating a culture that murders people and mutilates people. A true Muslim would embrace Sharia Law as it is what The Prophet Mohammad and the Koran require to be a faithful Muslim.

Uhmmm, yes you can. On what planet did you come up with the idea that you aren't allowed to praise some aspects of a culture and condemn others? Was I out sick the day this rule was made up? That's the stupidest thing I've heard all day.

From what you've just written I'd be willing to bet money you've never visited a Muslim country in your whole life.