Two year old killed by a pack of pit bulls

[Zebo]

The "dumbing down" of dog ownership really isn't the way to go. My dog is a GSD and when I rescued her, she was quite aggressive. After a bit of correction (I've had 2+ dogs all my life and work at a rescue on the weekends off and on for about 15 years now), I see kids picking her nose and pulling her ears (the horrified look on that snowflake's mom is priceless, btw) and she just kinda looks at them.

Do inexperienced owners need to pick up a pit bull, GSD, Doberman, or Rot? No. Aside from the sensationalized headline every so often or occasional non-fatal bite, it really isn't a problem.

I WOULD say that if your dog does attack someone, the person is liable. Intended, unintended doesn't matter. Most of the dog parks I goto state this explicitly on the rules that you agree to before entering.

TBH, this question doesn't even come up to people who have a clue. The people who spend the time to train their dog would usually accept responsibility, and the people that scream that it's not their fault usually won't train their dog.

You won't correct a game bred pit trust me, Koehler method Ceaser Method whatever it's a waste of time. Prey drive too high.

I'm not for breed bans but temperament testing to breed it out.

 

[Zebo]

If pitbulls were banned, these dumbasses would just find another breed to use as a status symbol.

Rots used to be hot until a 40lb pit would kill some thugs 110lb rot. There are others I hope never come - cane corso presa canario etc. Basically 150lb pitbulls. Instead of just women and child being mauled to death they will maul full grown men without too much difficulty.

Again exotic pet licenses. Tigers need it some dogs do too.

 

[piasabird]

I dont even like Dobermans and German Shepards. I dont cry for killer breeds of dogs. I think the Dog owner is resposible also. Take the Dog owner out and shoot him.

On the other hand maybe a 2 year old should not be outside unsupervised.

 

[Kappo]

You won't correct a game bred pit trust me, Koehler method Ceaser Method whatever it's a waste of time. Prey drive too high.

I'm not for breed bans but temperament testing to breed it out.

Realistically, the only reason for someone to need a game dog is for fighting. You could breed it out really quickly but it would require Michael Vick fans to cooperate. As long as there are breeders, there really is no realistic way to get rid of game breeding.

 

[Zebo]

Instead of banning more things I think the government should just release a list of things we're allowed to have.


(Admittedly biased) Link

Yeah were are probably being a little overzealous based on probabilities but I think it's the way they die that calls peoples attention. Not instant by any means but instead agonizing flesh ripping pain and it's somewhat preventable.

 

[WelshBloke]

Police and animal control officials spent the day at the four-bedroom home gathering evidence. Among the items they took away were a caged ferret and two unloaded shotguns.


Ferrets are illegal to own, and animal control officers said it is also illegal to have more than three dogs at one home in the city.

WTF. Pitbulls are OK, but ferrets are banned?

 

[StageLeft]

If pitbulls were banned, these dumbasses would just find another breed to use as a status symbol.

I agree with this.

 

[Kappo]

WTF. Pitbulls are OK, but ferrets are banned?

Not because they are mean (they are), but because they cause retarded amounts of damage and breed like bunnies. It's to prevent "infestation"

 

[Zebo]

Realistically, the only reason for someone to need a game dog is for fighting. You could breed it out really quickly but it would require Michael Vick fans to cooperate. As long as there are breeders, there really is no realistic way to get rid of game breeding.

Dude it's pick of the litter. That's what dumb fucks like Vic don't understand "tying to make them mean" and torturing them and shit, utter BS, they are born not made any real breeder knows this and is lucky to get one GTG dog out of 10 in a litter.

Talk to any of famous breeders such as Redboy, Crenshaw, Garner etc they'll tell you same thing. You school a dog ~1, some have it, most don't, and are sold to fools like Vic.

In the end what that means is you never know till dog you have has hyper agression. Same goes for my twin brother labs I trained since day 1, same time. One is a natural in the field, nose like a pointer, first on game, other not so much more of an assistant.

 

[bfdd]

The only problem is that - either by design or out of ignorance - it's easy to NOT "raise and treat properly" a pit bull, and the result is an accident waiting to happen. That's totally fine when the dog rips the flesh off of the owner's face, but why should the general public be put at risk because of the stupidity of the owner?

I know plenty of pit bull terrier and different pit bull breed owners and they all own amazing dogs who are very well mannered, even the rescued ones. Your ignorance of the breed and the effect human influence can have on a dog during training is ridiculous. I hate to be cheesy, but have you not seen the dog whisper for even the littlest of hint at that?

totally but if a dog kills a human then it dies. It's sad yes but animals are destroyed every day for more mundane reasons.

I do not disagree with the dog being put down for killing a human I think that's fine. I just think people need to start taking responsibility for their dogs and realize that we are their master, our treatment and training of them influences every decision they make.

 

[bfdd]

I don't understand how you guys are equating big game aggression to human aggression. They are VASTLY different. Pits were bred off of breeds that were used for bull baiting and bear baiting, they were used by frontier families like I have said a few times to ward off wolves, bears, whatever other wild shit would come and attack their caravans. These dogs are one of the first American breeds and have been a long time family dog in this nation. Yes they've been abused over the years, but that is due to us people not the dog. We need to really punish people who treat dogs poorly or allow them to run rampant. A dog is a big responsibility.

 

[Zebo]

A dog is just a dog. If they show human aggression they should be killed end of story. Why is this hard to understand? Fools who don't understand this is why babies are eaten.

 

[bfdd]

A dog is just a dog. If they show human aggression they should be killed end of story. Why is this hard to understand? Fools who don't understand this is why babies are eaten.

I don't disagree with killing a dog for showing human aggression, I'm saying don't pass judgement on the whole breed for the act of a single dog. I'm all for putting down dangerous dogs, I'm not for banning the breed.

 

[Brigandier]

A dog is just a dog. If they show human aggression they should be killed end of story. Why is this hard to understand? Fools who don't understand this is why babies are eaten.

Any dog that has human aggression hasn't been properly trained to humans. Any dog breed can have human aggression, I've seen it. I've been bit more by purse dogs than any other breed. Truth be told, I am less afraid of being bit by big dogs than little dogs. Little dogs have the eternal napoleon complex and need a strong owner to teach them otherwise; big dogs, on the other hand, seem to be alright with their place in life and are a lot less insecure. Big dogs only get a bad wrap because when they bite, they cause moderate trauma. What about the little dogs that snap and draw blood all their life?

 

[AnonymouseUser]

I don't disagree with killing a dog for showing human aggression, I'm saying don't pass judgement on the whole breed for the act of a single dog. I'm all for putting down dangerous dogs, I'm not for banning the breed.

My opinion of the breed is based on the acts of multiple dogs. Many multiples actually. The breed should be banned.

 

[Argo]

>> Should pit bulls be banned as pets?
Tough choice. I would have to say no, especially since majority of them are good.

>> Should their owners be criminally prosecuted when their dogs kill?
Absolutely. I believe having your pet kill somebody should be equivalent to man 2.

 

[bfdd]

My opinion of the breed is based on the acts of multiple dogs. Many multiples actually. The breed should be banned.

For every 1 bad pit bull you've read about or heard about, there are hundreds living as wonderful pets.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

For every 1 bad pit bull you've read about or heard about, there are hundreds living as wonderful pets.

Your point being?

For every 1 of any other breed that kills, there are tens of thousands living as wonderful pets.

 

[Kappo]

Your point being?

For every 1 of any other breed that kills, there are tens of thousands living as wonderful pets.

Ratio-wise, what attacks more?

Humans or Pit Bulls? Which is more deadly?

Why aren't you advocating that people be put down since they are OBVIOUSLY the much more aggressive and dangerous "breed"?

Want to know why? Because until someone "does something" that requires they be put down, they are given the benefit of the doubt. Who are we (humans) to decide what is to live or die by the extremely small population that are aggressive?

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Ratio-wise, what attacks more?

Humans or Pit Bulls? Which is more deadly?

Why aren't you advocating that people be put down since they are OBVIOUSLY the much more aggressive and dangerous "breed"?

Want to know why? Because until someone "does something" that requires they be put down, they are given the benefit of the doubt. Who are we (humans) to decide what is to live or die by the extremely small population that are aggressive?

Are you seriously comparing one breed of animal to the entire human race? As if the life of one animal is equal to the life of one human?

Besides, my statement above works just fine when applied to humans.

 

[hal2kilo]

Same goes for my twin brother labs I trained since day 1, same time. One is a natural in the field, nose like a pointer, first on game, other not so much more of an assistant.

Labs are funny like that. They either real smart or dumb as a rock. Rarely, aggressive though.

 

[umbrella39]

Too bad those statistics don't include what percentage of those bites come from pit bulls owned by wanna be thugs in the "projects".

That is too bad because I think you'd see more often than not it is a family pet that has done the attacking/mauling/killing, not some random thugs pit bull.

 

[umbrella39]

You are such a fvcking tool. You don't know if they are illegal or not and quite frankly it has not got jack to do with this kid getting mauled.

But aren't you shocked he chose to bring illegals into a story about a kid getting mauled by pits?

 

[William Gaatjes]

You know the deal. People think pits are dumb lol.

They know physics like no other dog watch them fight. The tearing they put whole body into.

Forgot to read your post what your dog did.
You did not put that dog to sleep until it attacked one of your high priced labradors ?
I would have shot your dog if i could if it would just had attacked my goldfish.

I don't like dog fights. Or dog - declawed bear fights as seen in eastern Europe.
A bear would rip a dog apart if it has claws.

I don't like bull fights either.

If there has to be fights, a human with 2 knifes against a pitbull.
And it must be a human who likes dog or dog bear fights.

Roman arena's...

A bit like this but with the following modification.
The knife must be slightly bend with the teeth on the outer side of the curved knife. Between the blade and the grip, there must be a larger metal shield. Large enough to fence of and small enough to not reduce the movement of the wrist joint.

That i would watch. I understand dogs where breed as protection against other wild animals. And aggression towards any strangers was preferable. But now there is no more need. Breed in some friendly genes. There is no more use for killer dogs.

 

[bfdd]

Are you seriously comparing one breed of animal to the entire human race? As if the life of one animal is equal to the life of one human?

Besides, my statement above works just fine when applied to humans.

Of course a dog isn't equal to a human life, but that doesn't mean we should demonize the whole breed because of a few rare cases.