Turn X800 Pro into X800 XT PE with Bios Flash

[imported_Avalanche]

No VIVO and all chips with Samsung on it are GC20.... Damn

I see now reading past post that it's just not going to work.

I need to LOOK before I edit..... I have successfully unlocked the other 4 pipe lines !!! WooHoo!!
But I can't flash the BIOS to an XT I guess... Oh well... 16 is better than 12 .... =)

 

[MegaWorks]

Originally posted by: Avalanche
No VIVO and all chips with Samsung on it are GC20.... Damn

I see now reading past post that it's just not going to work.

I need to LOOK before I edit..... I have successfully unlocked the other 4 pipe lines !!! WooHoo!!
But I can't flash the BIOS to an XT I guess... Oh well... 16 is better than 12 .... =)

You said that you have 16 pipelines, thats good. You now have a Radeon X800 XT (not PE) which is clocked at 500/1000. I know that your card is clocked at the 475/900, but the X800 Pro has the 2.0ns ram which is capable of achieving 1GHz DDR rates of speed. Overclock your card to these settings and you're set.

 

[imported_Avalanche]

I wish those were the settings.... My stock settings are 475 core, 450 mem. according to ATITool.... Did ATI send me a BS card?? Damnit... bet I've been screwed again...

 

[Uhtrinity]

475 / 450 (900 DDR) is the correct speed of an X800pro, you didn't get ripped off.

 

[imported_Avalanche]

So how do I

Overclock your card to these settings and you're set.

??

475 / 450 (900 DDR) is the correct speed of an X800pro, you didn't get ripped off.

That's very cool do know =)... but should I just let ATITools "find the best settings" or what do you guy's recomend?

Again, thanks very much for the help....

 

[Uhtrinity]

If you have the 2ns memory I wouldn't push past 900Mhz DDR. As far as the core, push as high as it is stable while keeping temps within a safe range. IMO safe would be 45 - 50c on air.

 

[MegaWorks]

Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
If you have the 2ns memory I wouldn't push past 900Mhz DDR. As far as the core, push as high as it is stable while keeping temps within a safe range. IMO safe would be 45 - 50c on air.

Uhtrinity, I think the card is able to achieve 1000Mhz DDR. Accoring to many site that 2ns is rated at 1000Mhz so I guess it's safe to reach that speed without any problems.

 

[Uhtrinity]

The 1.6ns memory should do 1250, but mine tops at 1200 at stock voltage. It looks like memory voltage may be runing a little lower than the memory manufactures spec to keep heat down. In my experience the GPU cores are pretty hardy, memory on the other hand is the easiet to damage.

 

[MegaWorks]

I've added the ocforums guide to softmod the X800 pro.

 

[jpeyton]

2ns = 500MHz
1.6ns = 600MHz

Those are the rated speeds anyways, depending on voltage.

 

[HercTNT]

Some one pleae clarify the temperature issue. one post says that 45 to 50 degrees celsius is the max stable range. now that seems low to me as i have seen post stating that some cards with stock coolers can hit 70 to 80 degrees celsius. i recently purchased the ati silencer 4 from artic cooling and i get 36 degrees celsius at idle and 55 at full load. with my stock cooler my temps hit as high as 69 degrees celsius. some info would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Zebo]

Man talk about buyers remorse... I got GT and could have had an XTPE for same price

Wonder if frys will take back my card. I do have isssues...not working as advertised..ghosting and game pauses I can't deal with for a $400 card whch should work 100% out of the box.

 

[MegaWorks]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Man talk about buyers remorse... I got GT and could have had an XTPE for same price

Wonder if frys will take back my card. I do have isssues...not working as advertised..ghosting and game pauses I can't deal with for a $400 card whch should work 100% out of the box.

Zebo, in your place I would keep the GT. I know the XTPE is faster than the GT but an OC GT would match the XTPE performance.

 

[Kabob]

Dangit...not I want to buy an X800 PRO just to try this...

Look what you've done to me Mega!!!

Quick question though, do all VIVO X800 Pro's have all 16 pipelines and the 1.6ns chips, or is it only certain brands? How much more of a burden will this change put on the card? Likely do wear out faster?

Heck, while I'm posting, what the heck exactly IS VIVO? What's the best way to find if it's on the card or not (other than the yellow circle thing) I see that newegg has an "VIVO yes/no" option when searching for cards.

-Kabob

 

[gururu]

Originally posted by: kabob983
Dangit...not I want to buy an X800 PRO just to try this...

Look what you've done to me Mega!!!

Quick question though, do all VIVO X800 Pro's have all 16 pipelines and the 1.6ns chips, or is it only certain brands? How much more of a burden will this change put on the card? Likely do wear out faster?

Heck, while I'm posting, what the heck exactly IS VIVO? What's the best way to find if it's on the card or not (other than the yellow circle thing) I see that newegg has an "VIVO yes/no" option when searching for cards.

-Kabob

VIVO is video in/video out. Sapphire X800pro VIVOs from Compusa were some of the first cards successfully tested en masse. I'd think that the same cards from elsewhere would offer the same. word is that these cards are going to be marketed as XTs for a premium now that the XTPEs are off the field. it's not been disclosed AFAIK why the VIVO cards were provided with 1.6ns memory.

 

[MegaWorks]

Originally posted by: kabob983
Dangit...not I want to buy an X800 PRO just to try this...

Look what you've done to me Mega!!!

Quick question though, do all VIVO X800 Pro's have all 16 pipelines and the 1.6ns chips, or is it only certain brands? How much more of a burden will this change put on the card? Likely do wear out faster?

Heck, while I'm posting, what the heck exactly IS VIVO? What's the best way to find if it's on the card or not (other than the yellow circle thing) I see that newegg has an "VIVO yes/no" option when searching for cards.

-Kabob

LOL!

Well I'm that sure but most users who own the X800 Pro VIVO said they got 1.6ns Samsung chips and a stable 16 pipelines. For the brand well Sapphire, and Powercolor seem to have the best VIVO's that are successfully flashed to the XTPE, I'm not really sure about BBA ATI version. "VIVO" means video in/video out.

EDIT: if the card doesn't have the yellow CD IN connector than it's not VIVO.

 

[MegaWorks]

I added two new sites.

 

[ironique]

Hmmmm, I think I might give this a try

 

[steve58]

Thanks for the Info mega works. I recently purchased a Sapphire X800 pro vivo here in OZ ($728.00) cheapest price at the moment. I applied all the flashes etc etc and indeed it did unlock the 4 extra pipes giving 16 pipelines and identifying the card as a fully fledged x800xt pe default at xtpe clocks using Ati tool.
The only problem is the heat the card develops I found. It was so bad, that at idle, 52* and after about 15 seconds the temperature climbed to 80* and then promptly locked up the system under scan for artifacts using ATi Tool or 3D mark 2k3. The room temperature is about 28*
I flashed it back to original after emptying the cards bios to give only 12 pipes ala stock, and the temp was still about 48* at idle same as when the card was newly fitted - using a temp probe and LCD digital readout.
I decided to fit a TT Giant 3 cooler to the card which I have also fitted to my kids 9800 pro and 9800 AIW pro with good results. I again reflashed with the modded bios and to my pleasant surprise the idle temp dropped to 32* and after 3d mark 2k3 test the temp climbed to only 57* same running Ati-tool.
The 3d mark test results were not that good - 10992, however the card is not fitted to a really hi-tech board with all the bells and wistles - that I am building at the moment.
One of my kids played far-cry on high 4x for about 4 hours solid with cheats (he is 8yo) and not a problem and the temp remained stable at 57* for the duration. Obviously there is a cooling problem with these cards stock system as I have found anyway. And atleast this solution worked for me and may assist others?
Current price here in OZ for a x800xt PE is about $1100.00.
Thanks for an interresting forum.

 

[DoobieOnline]

This morning I received the Elsa Falcox X80 Pro VIVO and it has 1.6ns mem and the yellow connector. I'm going to try the mod tonight. Thanks for passing on the easy instructions MegaWorks!

doobie

 

[MegaWorks]

No problem guys, tell us all about it DoobieOnline

steve58 for your cooling problem I recommend you to get the
ATI Silencer 4 (prices are Canadian)
This cooler is the best in the marking to cool down a X800s card.

 

[DoobieOnline]

Success! I followed the instructions to the letter and the two flashes worked flawlessly on the Elsa Falcox X80 Pro VIVO. 16 pipes now! Before flashing, I verified 12 pipes and tested with ATI Tool at 520/560. The mem was causing artifacts at that speed but the core was fine. I was able to hit ~540 mem without artifacts at that time. After flashing, 520/560 worked great and was artifact-free. Max load temps hit ~70C with the fan at 75%. IIRC, the second temp that ATI Tool displays maxed at ~48C under load. Is that the mem temp or a just a sensor somewhere else on the board? I can hear the fan when running at 75%, but it 's not annoying. I didn't have time to do more testing, but tonight I'm going to find the max core/mem and run some benchmarks to verify stability.

Does anyone know what the max temp the core/mem can handle safely? Thanks!

doobie

 

[Ronin]

Be VERY careful about this flash upgrade. Even with the VIVO models (the reason for using the VIVO models is because the x800 XT PE bioses have that information within it, and if you upgrade it, Windows is gonna go lookin for drivers for it, when the card doesn't have it). can be problematic, because the speeds are too much for the card, or because the RAM can't handle the updated speeds.

 

[Uhtrinity]

The whole point of using the VIVO card is for the 1.6ns memory, if it has the 1.6ns memory it will handle the speed. Core is another story, but I have yet to hear of a VIVO that didn't work.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
The whole point of using the VIVO card is for the 1.6ns memory, if it has the 1.6ns memory it will handle the speed. Core is another story, but I have yet to hear of a VIVO that didn't work.

Yup every single vivo has 1.6ns samsung..