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News Trump: Mar-a-Lago just raided by FBI

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Hey we still don’t know which departments these documents are from. Let’s hope top secret military weapons. Yes he’s a civilian. But due to nature of the data, a military trial gets held so sensitive data doesn’t get revealed to the public.
 
eelw said:
Hey we still don’t know which departments these documents are from. Let’s hope top secret military weapons. Yes he’s a civilian. But due to nature of the data, a military trial gets held so sensitive data doesn’t get revealed to the public.
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Yeah, I was wondering what would qualify this trial to be sent through military instead of civilian. The nature of these documents won't be able to be presented in open, public trial, but they will need to be presented and vetted as evidence, no?
 
Look, I cannot stand Trump either.

He can be blamed for many things, including the slaughter of innocent Ukrainians by refusing to help Zelensky when he asked for aid.

But as so many have already said, I don't believe Trump will ever be sent to prison.

It's not what we scream, it's not what we want him charged with. It's what can be proven - which can then be overturned or negated by judges.

It pains me, too.
 
Lezunto said:
Look, I cannot stand Trump either.

He can be blamed for many things, including the slaughter of innocent Ukrainians by refusing to help Zelensky when he asked for aid.

But as so many have already said, I don't believe Trump will ever be sent to prison.

It's not what we scream, it's not what we want him charged with. It's what can be proven - which can then be overturned or negated by judges.

It pains me, too.
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Right, and the charges here are pretty straightforward. What's the issue?
 
Getting a judge or a jury to agree with the charges. That is the issue. Being adamant about something does not mean you are right.
 
MtnMan said:
Valid poing, BUT why has two of his former lawyers homes and offices been searched by the FBI? I guess direct communication between client/lawyer would be off limits, but that doesn't change the fact that possession of Top Secret and higher docs in an insecure location won't get his ass in a real jam, and if Ghouliani's or Sydney Powell, or any of his other lawyers, prints are on them, it goes from client/lawyer to co-defendants.

It's almost a certainty they are going to fingerprint those documents, and if Ghouliani's print are found on them? We know he has been to Mar-a-Lago.
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Attorney / Client privilege is not always protected.

www.nolo.com

The Attorney-Client Privilege

Most, but not necessarily all, of what you tell your lawyer is privileged.
www.nolo.com www.nolo.com


Now in Trumps case... Trumps lawyers did sign off there we no longer any classified documents at mar-a-lago back in June.

Now if there is a note in the confiscated documents that the lawyers knew there were more documents.. that communication is fair game.
 
Lezunto said:
Can it be PROVEN?

Screaming dosen't do chit! Neither does calling people names.

You cannot imprison people based on how loud you can scream - or Secretary Clinton would have been executed.
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Lezunto said:
Getting a judge or a jury to agree with the charges. That is the issue. Being adamant about something does not mean you are right.
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I mean...the charge is that he had super secret docs he shouldnt have had. Theres evidence that they were subpoenaed, so he cant claim he didnt know they were there.

Then the FBI went and got them, so they most definitely were there, so he cant deny that either.

Given the charges were that he had material in unapproved locations/storage, i feel like this is a slam dunk. Only remains to be seen if anyone falls for the magic wand of declassification, which is so absurd i doubt it would be allowed in a DnD game.
 
Attorney client privilege isn't really the issue here. We know the concern here is about documents which aren't covered by the privilege. If the FBI or a special master finds documents covered by attorney client privilege and returns them to Trump, so what?
 
I'm also of the opinion that no matter what Trump did, or even what can be proven, he won't suffer any consequences. He said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and I believe it. Even if he was sent to prison he's likely to be elected President, as far as I know that's not an impediment to being elected into office. Half the country would see it as a plus that the "tyrannical government has persecuted the man of the people, Donald Trump."

Shit, a bunch of moderate democrats would likely try to intervene "for the good of the country" and because they are scared of unrest. Personally if Trump was indicted and there was rioting in the streets like Lindsay Graham suggested (with a furrowed brow) it would be a great opportunity to squash some roaches after they left the safety of their rock. Isn't that what Desantis and others want, to stomp on protesters? Oh, not *those* protesters!

If Trump is indicted, I'll be pleasantly surprised, but I refuse to get my hopes up at this point. Anyway, it's fun to speculate but all we can't do is wait and see. Whatever happens better happen before Trump or Desantis takes office in 2024.
 
No matter what the MAGA infection is spreading like wildfire across the country contaminating once reasonable people turning them into Trumpian conspiracy zombies. 😱 😳
 
fskimospy said:
Yes, I think the proof is relatively straightforward too. What's the issue?
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The available evidence is straight forward, but so far we've only seen what the FBI has chosen to release. We don't know anything beyond statements made by people with an agenda. There is also a vast difference between the speculation and opinion we see every day and the actual trial.

I have several questions I'd like to see addressed, but those won't be answered until the trial.
 
fskimospy said:
You don't have a right to relocate the trial unless you can show that it is not possible for you to get a fair trial where you are charged. DC having a lot of democrats is not a valid reason.
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I wouldn't be so sure. Then again, I guess you're the expert on taking politicians and presidents to trial. 🙂
 
HomerJS said:
If charges are not filed does that not mean the following is no longer operative?

"No one is above the law"
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No, it doesn't.
The issue is you're conflating your belief and agenda with law. That's not a charge or a conviction, it's an opinion.
Personally, I hope he is charged, I want to see all of my questions answered and a trial will cover most of them.
 
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