Trick or Don't Tase Me Bro!

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: waggy
Edit: another one.


http://www.alternet.org/rights/44455/

"Taser International Inc. maintains that its stun-guns are "changing the world and saving lives everyday." There is no question that they changed Jack Wilson's life. On Aug. 4, in Lafayette, Colo., policemen on a stakeout approached Jack's son Ryan as he entered a field of a dozen young marijuana plants. When Ryan took off running, officer John Harris pursued the 22-year-old for a half-mile and then shot him once with an X-26 Taser. Ryan fell to the ground and began to convulse. The officer attempted cardiopulmonary resuscitation, but Ryan died.

According to his family and friends, Ryan was in very good physical shape. The county coroner found no evidence of alcohol or drugs in his system and ruled that Ryan's death could be attributed to the Taser shock, physical exertion from the chase and the fact that one of his heart arteries was unusually small
"

See the bolded.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: clamum

Originally posted by: manowar821
Wow, another idiot cop.

Because the cop used physical force to subdue her because she was going to punch the cop in the face? She was still fighting in handcuffs, and after being told if she didn't knock it the fuck off, she would be tasered. She didn't, so the officer tased her. And the cop is an idiot? What are you smoking?

You'd have to be pretty stupid to think that a 14 year old would require a tazering, short of her actually having a weapon on her. She presented no danger to the cop, hell, a 14 year old wouldn't present a danger to ME.

The cop is a god damn pussy. Here's what you do to a little girl. Pick her up, PUT HER IN THE BACK SEAT OF THE SQUAD CAR, AND LET HER KICK ALL THE RAGE OUT OF HER SYSTEM IF SHE WANTS.

Jesus christ, it's like a game for you people, isn't it? It's so f-ing funny to see people get tazed for no reason, isn't it? "Don't taze me, bro! Don't taze me, bro! LAWL" (shit, that guy wasn't even kicking, he was just talking) What is wrong with you? Would you also like to see your 7 year old kid get tazed for being unruly? Uh oh, the 7 year old is kicking and screaming, better taze it.

wow you are a fucking idiot. by "kick the rage out of her system" you mean kick the cop in the face? if the kid somehow kicks the cop square in the fucking nose and breaks it what then? what if during the course of trying to "put her in the back seat of the squad car" the kid breaks her fucking arm, would yell at the cop for trying to forcefully put her in the back of the squad car as well?

fuck that shit, if that kid is being a bitch and resisting arrest, taze her ass. if my kid was being a disrespectful punk ass bitch and trying to assault cops, i'd want the cops to taze my kid too. maybe the kid won't be such a retarded mf'er next time.

I think he was referring to how a lot of uncooperative suspects tend to kick the inside of the car after they had been put in it. I think you need to take a chill pill and not freak out so easily

ah yes, but he seems to y'know, be disregarding the act of getting an unruly and obviously aggressive 14 year old kid into the back of a squad car.

but i see your point.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy
Edit: another one.


http://www.alternet.org/rights/44455/

"Taser International Inc. maintains that its stun-guns are "changing the world and saving lives everyday." There is no question that they changed Jack Wilson's life. On Aug. 4, in Lafayette, Colo., policemen on a stakeout approached Jack's son Ryan as he entered a field of a dozen young marijuana plants. When Ryan took off running, officer John Harris pursued the 22-year-old for a half-mile and then shot him once with an X-26 Taser. Ryan fell to the ground and began to convulse. The officer attempted cardiopulmonary resuscitation, but Ryan died.

According to his family and friends, Ryan was in very good physical shape. The county coroner found no evidence of alcohol or drugs in his system and ruled that Ryan's death could be attributed to the Taser shock, physical exertion from the chase and the fact that one of his heart arteries was unusually small
"

See the bolded.

so what?

that alone is not going ot do it. the Tazer was a huge factor in his death. there are more. do simple search. they are not as safe as people claim.

BUT they are better then the alternatives.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy
Edit: another one.


http://www.alternet.org/rights/44455/

"Taser International Inc. maintains that its stun-guns are "changing the world and saving lives everyday." There is no question that they changed Jack Wilson's life. On Aug. 4, in Lafayette, Colo., policemen on a stakeout approached Jack's son Ryan as he entered a field of a dozen young marijuana plants. When Ryan took off running, officer John Harris pursued the 22-year-old for a half-mile and then shot him once with an X-26 Taser. Ryan fell to the ground and began to convulse. The officer attempted cardiopulmonary resuscitation, but Ryan died.

According to his family and friends, Ryan was in very good physical shape. The county coroner found no evidence of alcohol or drugs in his system and ruled that Ryan's death could be attributed to the Taser shock, physical exertion from the chase and the fact that one of his heart arteries was unusually small
"

See the bolded.

so what?

that alone is not going ot do it. the Tazer was a huge factor in his death. there are more. do simple search. they are not as safe as people claim.

BUT they are better then the alternatives.

Remember how I said pre-existing medical conditions?

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy
Edit: another one.


http://www.alternet.org/rights/44455/

"Taser International Inc. maintains that its stun-guns are "changing the world and saving lives everyday." There is no question that they changed Jack Wilson's life. On Aug. 4, in Lafayette, Colo., policemen on a stakeout approached Jack's son Ryan as he entered a field of a dozen young marijuana plants. When Ryan took off running, officer John Harris pursued the 22-year-old for a half-mile and then shot him once with an X-26 Taser. Ryan fell to the ground and began to convulse. The officer attempted cardiopulmonary resuscitation, but Ryan died.

According to his family and friends, Ryan was in very good physical shape. The county coroner found no evidence of alcohol or drugs in his system and ruled that Ryan's death could be attributed to the Taser shock, physical exertion from the chase and the fact that one of his heart arteries was unusually small
"

See the bolded.

maybe douchebag shouldn't have run away from the cops.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
ah yes, but he seems to y'know, be disregarding the act of getting an unruly and obviously aggressive 14 year old kid into the back of a squad car.

but i see your point.

ahh you are just a pussy if you can't handle a 14 yr old girl! its no problem getting her in the car. just throw ina cell phone in heh.


it amazes me how many people think 14 yr olds are easy to control LOL

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy
Edit: another one.


http://www.alternet.org/rights/44455/

"Taser International Inc. maintains that its stun-guns are "changing the world and saving lives everyday." There is no question that they changed Jack Wilson's life. On Aug. 4, in Lafayette, Colo., policemen on a stakeout approached Jack's son Ryan as he entered a field of a dozen young marijuana plants. When Ryan took off running, officer John Harris pursued the 22-year-old for a half-mile and then shot him once with an X-26 Taser. Ryan fell to the ground and began to convulse. The officer attempted cardiopulmonary resuscitation, but Ryan died.

According to his family and friends, Ryan was in very good physical shape. The county coroner found no evidence of alcohol or drugs in his system and ruled that Ryan's death could be attributed to the Taser shock, physical exertion from the chase and the fact that one of his heart arteries was unusually small
"

See the bolded.

So just because he was running and had a small artery he died? No. He died because he was tased. Sure, those other bits could have (and probably did) attributed to his death, but if he hadn't been tased, he would still be alive.

So how many people have some sort of physical anomaly that would lead to their death if tased?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy
Edit: another one.


http://www.alternet.org/rights/44455/

"Taser International Inc. maintains that its stun-guns are "changing the world and saving lives everyday." There is no question that they changed Jack Wilson's life. On Aug. 4, in Lafayette, Colo., policemen on a stakeout approached Jack's son Ryan as he entered a field of a dozen young marijuana plants. When Ryan took off running, officer John Harris pursued the 22-year-old for a half-mile and then shot him once with an X-26 Taser. Ryan fell to the ground and began to convulse. The officer attempted cardiopulmonary resuscitation, but Ryan died.

According to his family and friends, Ryan was in very good physical shape. The county coroner found no evidence of alcohol or drugs in his system and ruled that Ryan's death could be attributed to the Taser shock, physical exertion from the chase and the fact that one of his heart arteries was unusually small
"

See the bolded.

maybe douchebag shouldn't have run away from the cops.

and what does that have to do with it?

Tazers are not as safe as people claim. wich is my point. not about if he should have run or if he should be in pot farm.

 

[FallenHero]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Tasers cannot stop hearts. Quit making up random facts.

tasers have been linked to deaths though.

From what I've heard, only in people that have relatively severe pre-existing medical conditions.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...yshow/main648859.shtml

from the article (its pretty long).

"On Long Island, David Glowczenski was suffering a mental breakdown, so his family called police for help.

His sister, Jean Griffin, says, "We called them for safety because he was disoriented. ?And an hour later he was dead."

Glowzenski died after a confrontation in which an officer stunned him nine times with a TASER, and he wasn't on drugs or alcohol, Andrews notes. "He committed no crime; he didn't do anything wrong," Griffin says. "




thouh yes most are from pre-existing medical or drugs.



Edit: another one.


http://www.alternet.org/rights/44455/

"Taser International Inc. maintains that its stun-guns are "changing the world and saving lives everyday." There is no question that they changed Jack Wilson's life. On Aug. 4, in Lafayette, Colo., policemen on a stakeout approached Jack's son Ryan as he entered a field of a dozen young marijuana plants. When Ryan took off running, officer John Harris pursued the 22-year-old for a half-mile and then shot him once with an X-26 Taser. Ryan fell to the ground and began to convulse. The officer attempted cardiopulmonary resuscitation, but Ryan died.

According to his family and friends, Ryan was in very good physical shape. The county coroner found no evidence of alcohol or drugs in his system and ruled that Ryan's death could be attributed to the Taser shock, physical exertion from the chase and the fact that one of his heart arteries was unusually small
"

That case was big here on Long Island. It comes down to whether or not you believe in "excited delirium syndrome."

Excited delirium is exactly what kills these people, and there is no way to predict who will go into it. The amount of amperage that flows through a taser is no where NEAR what is needed to affect the heart. In a worst case scenario, taser conducted a study where they opened up a pigs chest and placed the two prongs on either side of the heart. During and after the shock, the pigs heart remained unaffected. Those prongs were as close as they can get to the heart, and they STILL didn't stop it. Hell, Taser is conducting 30-second long tests on volunteers. Tasers are probably the most studied, most tested piece of equipment that Law Enforcement has and there has still (at least to my knowledge) not been one successful lawsuit or study proving that a taser caused heart stoppage.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Tasers cannot stop hearts. Quit making up random facts.

tasers have been linked to deaths though.

From what I've heard, only in people that have relatively severe pre-existing medical conditions. Also in those that are hopped up on drugs.

Exactly. In both of those cases, anyone with these conditions or on drugs should reconsider entanglements with cops anyways.




Guys, this whole situation is stupid. She was some really obnoxious teenage girl who had no respect for authority and she was disrupting the peace in some neighborhood where kids just wanted to trick or treat in their costumes and have a good time without being bothered by anyone. This is the same kind of girl you see causing problems in schools, getting fired constantly from jobs when she gets older, and does a piss poor job raising kids if she lives long enough to have any. Why any of you are claiming that a cop should have no control over this situation is beyond me.

Fine, the cop may have gone a tiny bit overboard by grabbing her arm. That was no justification for her reaction though. Keep that trash out of my neighborhood and away from my kids!

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
ah yes, but he seems to y'know, be disregarding the act of getting an unruly and obviously aggressive 14 year old kid into the back of a squad car.

but i see your point.

ahh you are just a pussy if you can't handle a 14 yr old girl! its no problem getting her in the car. just throw ina cell phone in heh.


it amazes me how many people think 14 yr olds are easy to control LOL

When I was in high school, the school liaison officer could, and did, chase down anyone who ran. I saw him tackle a wigger who was trying to run across the football field. It was great. He was able to handle all the 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19 year-olds with little problem.

So, he never needed a taser. I think cops use tasers because they are fat and lazy, and can't run / control their subjects.

When I was in martial arts, we learned all sorts of submission holds and places to grab and whatnot. Whatever happened to non-electrical submission?

 

[OdiN]

What I don't get is how the cop thought he had the right to tell someone what they couldn't speak.

If a cop told me to stop cursing I'd tell him to fuck off.

 

[dainthomas]

pwned

Originally posted by: Queasy
The girl's foster mother, Ida Martin, declined to talk about the incident on Friday morning.

[/quote]

I am un-shocked.

She'll probably be knocked up and/or working a corner by next Halloween.

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Tasers cannot stop hearts. Quit making up random facts.

tasers have been linked to deaths though.

From what I've heard, only in people that have relatively severe pre-existing medical conditions. Also in those that are hopped up on drugs.

Exactly. In both of those cases, anyone with these conditions or on drugs should reconsider entanglements with cops anyways.




Guys, this whole situation is stupid. She was some really obnoxious teenage girl who had no respect for authority and she was disrupting the peace in some neighborhood where kids just wanted to trick or treat in their costumes and have a good time without being bothered by anyone. This is the same kind of girl you see causing problems in schools, getting fired constantly from jobs when she gets older, and does a piss poor job raising kids if she lives long enough to have any. Why any of you are claiming that a cop should have no control over this situation is beyond me.

Fine, the cop may have gone a tiny bit overboard by grabbing her arm. That was no justification for her reaction though. Keep that trash out of my neighborhood and away from my kids!

I think everyone keeps missing the point that he was off duty, and hopefully out of uniform (being as how he was off-duty). I'm guessing he didn't look like a cop.


Say you're walking down the street, and a guy tells you to stop (doing whatever). You, of course, refuse. He proceeds to grab you, and cuff you. He doesn't have a badge, uniform, or radio. WTF are you going to do? Just let some random guy do whatever he wants with you?

 

[FallenHero]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
ah yes, but he seems to y'know, be disregarding the act of getting an unruly and obviously aggressive 14 year old kid into the back of a squad car.

but i see your point.

ahh you are just a pussy if you can't handle a 14 yr old girl! its no problem getting her in the car. just throw ina cell phone in heh.


it amazes me how many people think 14 yr olds are easy to control LOL

When I was in high school, the school liaison officer could, and did, chase down anyone who ran. I saw him tackle a wigger who was trying to run across the football field. It was great. He was able to handle all the 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19 year-olds with little problem.

So, he never needed a taser. I think cops use tasers because they are fat and lazy, and can't run / control their subjects.

When I was in martial arts, we learned all sorts of submission holds and places to grab and whatnot. Whatever happened to non-electrical submission?

it gets more people hurt than is necessary. The taser saves alot of people alot of trouble, even the offender.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
ah yes, but he seems to y'know, be disregarding the act of getting an unruly and obviously aggressive 14 year old kid into the back of a squad car.

but i see your point.

ahh you are just a pussy if you can't handle a 14 yr old girl! its no problem getting her in the car. just throw ina cell phone in heh.


it amazes me how many people think 14 yr olds are easy to control LOL

When I was in high school, the school liaison officer could, and did, chase down anyone who ran. I saw him tackle a wigger who was trying to run across the football field. It was great. He was able to handle all the 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19 year-olds with little problem.

So, he never needed a taser. I think cops use tasers because they are fat and lazy, and can't run / control their subjects.

When I was in martial arts, we learned all sorts of submission holds and places to grab and whatnot. Whatever happened to non-electrical submission?

because those non-electrical sumbmissions still put the officer at risk, also they are still deadly to the person being arrested.

they figure tazering is safer then ending up witha person wiht broken arms/elbows etc. or them ending up with permanent damage.

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
ah yes, but he seems to y'know, be disregarding the act of getting an unruly and obviously aggressive 14 year old kid into the back of a squad car.

but i see your point.

ahh you are just a pussy if you can't handle a 14 yr old girl! its no problem getting her in the car. just throw ina cell phone in heh.


it amazes me how many people think 14 yr olds are easy to control LOL

When I was in high school, the school liaison officer could, and did, chase down anyone who ran. I saw him tackle a wigger who was trying to run across the football field. It was great. He was able to handle all the 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19 year-olds with little problem.

So, he never needed a taser. I think cops use tasers because they are fat and lazy, and can't run / control their subjects.

When I was in martial arts, we learned all sorts of submission holds and places to grab and whatnot. Whatever happened to non-electrical submission?

it gets more people hurt than is necessary. The taser saves alot of people alot of trouble, even the offender.

It seems that I hear a lot more about tasings than other non-lethal methods. I dunno, I guess I'm just old-fashioned because I think that tasers should only be used in a situation that the officer would normally use a gun (suspect has a weapon or poses a threat to others or themselves). NOT to restrain a fucking 8th grade girl.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Tasers cannot stop hearts. Quit making up random facts.

tasers have been linked to deaths though.

From what I've heard, only in people that have relatively severe pre-existing medical conditions. Also in those that are hopped up on drugs.

Exactly. In both of those cases, anyone with these conditions or on drugs should reconsider entanglements with cops anyways.




Guys, this whole situation is stupid. She was some really obnoxious teenage girl who had no respect for authority and she was disrupting the peace in some neighborhood where kids just wanted to trick or treat in their costumes and have a good time without being bothered by anyone. This is the same kind of girl you see causing problems in schools, getting fired constantly from jobs when she gets older, and does a piss poor job raising kids if she lives long enough to have any. Why any of you are claiming that a cop should have no control over this situation is beyond me.

Fine, the cop may have gone a tiny bit overboard by grabbing her arm. That was no justification for her reaction though. Keep that trash out of my neighborhood and away from my kids!

I think everyone keeps missing the point that he was off duty, and hopefully out of uniform (being as how he was off-duty). I'm guessing he didn't look like a cop.


Say you're walking down the street, and a guy tells you to stop (doing whatever). You, of course, refuse. He proceeds to grab you, and cuff you. He doesn't have a badge, uniform, or radio. WTF are you going to do? Just let some random guy do whatever he wants with you?

Most off-duty police officers that do security work will be in uniform.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
ah yes, but he seems to y'know, be disregarding the act of getting an unruly and obviously aggressive 14 year old kid into the back of a squad car.

but i see your point.

ahh you are just a pussy if you can't handle a 14 yr old girl! its no problem getting her in the car. just throw ina cell phone in heh.


it amazes me how many people think 14 yr olds are easy to control LOL

When I was in high school, the school liaison officer could, and did, chase down anyone who ran. I saw him tackle a wigger who was trying to run across the football field. It was great. He was able to handle all the 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19 year-olds with little problem.

So, he never needed a taser. I think cops use tasers because they are fat and lazy, and can't run / control their subjects.

When I was in martial arts, we learned all sorts of submission holds and places to grab and whatnot. Whatever happened to non-electrical submission?

it gets more people hurt than is necessary. The taser saves alot of people alot of trouble, even the offender.

It seems that I hear a lot more about tasings than other non-lethal methods. I dunno, I guess I'm just old-fashioned because I think that tasers should only be used in a situation that the officer would normally use a gun (suspect has a weapon or poses a threat to others or themselves). NOT to restrain a fucking 8th grade girl.

Normally use a gun? If a situation arises where an officer would normally use a gun, that means his life is in immediate danger and he has full authority to kill.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
ah yes, but he seems to y'know, be disregarding the act of getting an unruly and obviously aggressive 14 year old kid into the back of a squad car.

but i see your point.

ahh you are just a pussy if you can't handle a 14 yr old girl! its no problem getting her in the car. just throw ina cell phone in heh.


it amazes me how many people think 14 yr olds are easy to control LOL

When I was in high school, the school liaison officer could, and did, chase down anyone who ran. I saw him tackle a wigger who was trying to run across the football field. It was great. He was able to handle all the 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19 year-olds with little problem.

So, he never needed a taser. I think cops use tasers because they are fat and lazy, and can't run / control their subjects.

When I was in martial arts, we learned all sorts of submission holds and places to grab and whatnot. Whatever happened to non-electrical submission?

it gets more people hurt than is necessary. The taser saves alot of people alot of trouble, even the offender.

It seems that I hear a lot more about tasings than other non-lethal methods. I dunno, I guess I'm just old-fashioned because I think that tasers should only be used in a situation that the officer would normally use a gun (suspect has a weapon or poses a threat to others or themselves). NOT to restrain a fucking 8th grade girl.

while i do think the officer in this case pushed it to far.

trying to restrain a 8th grader with force can cause permanant damage on the child. Where the odds on her getting hurt from a tazer is low.

Also its safer for the cop to just tazer a person who is fighting.


Both were wrong. the cop pushed it farther then it needed to go over cursing. But i don't feel sorry for the girl at all.

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Tasers cannot stop hearts. Quit making up random facts.

tasers have been linked to deaths though.

From what I've heard, only in people that have relatively severe pre-existing medical conditions. Also in those that are hopped up on drugs.

Exactly. In both of those cases, anyone with these conditions or on drugs should reconsider entanglements with cops anyways.




Guys, this whole situation is stupid. She was some really obnoxious teenage girl who had no respect for authority and she was disrupting the peace in some neighborhood where kids just wanted to trick or treat in their costumes and have a good time without being bothered by anyone. This is the same kind of girl you see causing problems in schools, getting fired constantly from jobs when she gets older, and does a piss poor job raising kids if she lives long enough to have any. Why any of you are claiming that a cop should have no control over this situation is beyond me.

Fine, the cop may have gone a tiny bit overboard by grabbing her arm. That was no justification for her reaction though. Keep that trash out of my neighborhood and away from my kids!

I think everyone keeps missing the point that he was off duty, and hopefully out of uniform (being as how he was off-duty). I'm guessing he didn't look like a cop.


Say you're walking down the street, and a guy tells you to stop (doing whatever). You, of course, refuse. He proceeds to grab you, and cuff you. He doesn't have a badge, uniform, or radio. WTF are you going to do? Just let some random guy do whatever he wants with you?

Most off-duty police officers that do security work will be in uniform.

Their police uniform? Since they are off duty, and working for a different company, wouldn't that be illegal somehow? Same goes for the taser, unless it is his own personal taser, or at least that makes sense to me. I wouldn't think the PD would look to highly on it's equipment being used for non-police activities.

Or would it be a rent-a-cop uniform? (I'd listen to a rent-a-cop even less than a random guy on the sidewalk if he told me to stop swearing haha)

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Tasers cannot stop hearts. Quit making up random facts.

tasers have been linked to deaths though.

From what I've heard, only in people that have relatively severe pre-existing medical conditions. Also in those that are hopped up on drugs.

Exactly. In both of those cases, anyone with these conditions or on drugs should reconsider entanglements with cops anyways.




Guys, this whole situation is stupid. She was some really obnoxious teenage girl who had no respect for authority and she was disrupting the peace in some neighborhood where kids just wanted to trick or treat in their costumes and have a good time without being bothered by anyone. This is the same kind of girl you see causing problems in schools, getting fired constantly from jobs when she gets older, and does a piss poor job raising kids if she lives long enough to have any. Why any of you are claiming that a cop should have no control over this situation is beyond me.

Fine, the cop may have gone a tiny bit overboard by grabbing her arm. That was no justification for her reaction though. Keep that trash out of my neighborhood and away from my kids!

I think everyone keeps missing the point that he was off duty, and hopefully out of uniform (being as how he was off-duty). I'm guessing he didn't look like a cop.


Say you're walking down the street, and a guy tells you to stop (doing whatever). You, of course, refuse. He proceeds to grab you, and cuff you. He doesn't have a badge, uniform, or radio. WTF are you going to do? Just let some random guy do whatever he wants with you?

Most off-duty police officers that do security work will be in uniform.

in the police uniform? i find that odd.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Tasers cannot stop hearts. Quit making up random facts.

tasers have been linked to deaths though.

From what I've heard, only in people that have relatively severe pre-existing medical conditions. Also in those that are hopped up on drugs.

Exactly. In both of those cases, anyone with these conditions or on drugs should reconsider entanglements with cops anyways.




Guys, this whole situation is stupid. She was some really obnoxious teenage girl who had no respect for authority and she was disrupting the peace in some neighborhood where kids just wanted to trick or treat in their costumes and have a good time without being bothered by anyone. This is the same kind of girl you see causing problems in schools, getting fired constantly from jobs when she gets older, and does a piss poor job raising kids if she lives long enough to have any. Why any of you are claiming that a cop should have no control over this situation is beyond me.

Fine, the cop may have gone a tiny bit overboard by grabbing her arm. That was no justification for her reaction though. Keep that trash out of my neighborhood and away from my kids!

I think everyone keeps missing the point that he was off duty, and hopefully out of uniform (being as how he was off-duty). I'm guessing he didn't look like a cop.


Say you're walking down the street, and a guy tells you to stop (doing whatever). You, of course, refuse. He proceeds to grab you, and cuff you. He doesn't have a badge, uniform, or radio. WTF are you going to do? Just let some random guy do whatever he wants with you?

Most off-duty police officers that do security work will be in uniform.

in the police uniform? i find that odd.

It depends on the agreement they have with the department. If the Chief of Police says it's ok, they're typically good to go.

 

[NuroMancer]

Originally posted by: Canai

The off-duty officer was working a part-time job, patrolling Trotter's Ridge subdivision near Snellville

NOT on his way home. Using police equipment for his other job. He had no right to arrest her, other than to hold her until an on-duty officer arrived at the scene.

edit: at least as far as I know. I don't think off-duty officers can arrest you, can they?

Yes they can,

and it sounds like paid duty to me, in which cause he has full permission to use his "police equipment" and arrest/ticket you.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: BigJ
Most off-duty police officers that do security work will be in uniform.

in the police uniform? i find that odd.

If they're working in somewhere like a neighborhood they'll be in uniform so that they'll be easily recognizable and just their presence can have an effect on keeping the nuttiness down. If they're working bar security or something similar, they'll be in civies.