Train Derailment East Palestine Ohio - news blackout?

[emperus]

Democrats never let an opportunity go to waste when it comes to identity politics or pushing their ideological agenda. No money in helping clean up a town nuked by a chemical burn.

Really? What more exactly did you expect the Fed to do? EPA has been on the ground, NTSB has been on the ground. This happened in a Republican state and it was the Republican governor who took the word of the company who "nuked" the town, and refused to declare and emergency to get aid. What happened to your localized government and killing all 3 Letter Agencies? This type of disaster had been predicted by all your "latte drinking panzy" liberals who care about these "fake sciences" and "environmentals". Maybe you should focus on preventing these things rather than phony words after.

 

[emperus]

Biden and/or Buttiege should have probably visited. I know the pre-determined Ukraine visit probably threw a wrench into things, but this is now letting Trump control the optics/narrative.

I mean the people there probably would have hated Biden's guts regardless and it won't change any votes that matter, but was probably the right thing to do. To visit now, after Trump, just looks awkward.

I think there are ~100 train derailments a year. Morning Joe played a clip from none else then Fox News that reported there had been train derailments where people died that Trump nor Elaine Cho visited. I don't think the President should visit every train derailment in the US. Conservatives do a great job ginning up the faux outrage.

 

[HomerJS]

Really? What more exactly did you expect the Fed to do? EPA has been on the ground, NTSB has been on the ground. This happened in a Republican state and it was the Republican governor who took the word of the company who "nuked" the town, and refused to declare and emergency to get aid. What happened to your localized government and killing all 3 Letter Agencies? This type of disaster had been predicted by all your "latte drinking panzy" liberals who care about these "fake sciences" and "environmentals". Maybe you should focus on preventing these things rather than phony words after.

Bullshitter has his talking points down but can't apply any of them to this incident. Not can he answer what the Feds could have done differently considering the EPA was onsite 24 hrs after the derailment.

 

[MrSquished]

You guys need to stop responding to guys like Brandon Bull. He is a complete loss to all that is decent in humanity. You gotta just write these people off man. They are worth nothing and worth none of our time

 

[JD50]

Democrats never let an opportunity go to waste when it comes to identity politics or pushing their ideological agenda. No money in helping clean up a town nuked by a chemical burn.

Oh, is Trump just there to help the town clean up, maybe throwing rolls of paper towels at people?

 

[Pens1566]

Oh, is Trump just there to help the town clean up, maybe throwing rolls of paper towels at people?

Handing out bottles of Trump water that were last produced in 2010.

 

[Pohemi]

Well, I congratulate you on nearly four months before returning to predictions of doom.

It didn't read too doom & gloomy to me...and I didn't disagree with the statement. /shrug

I personally doubt the idea that this disaster had them all ready to vote for Democrats until this propaganda got its hooks into them.

No, but the optics don't end at the border of East Palestine or Ohio. This has obviously been national news since the day it occurred, and only been blown up in the media because of 1) the hazardous chemicals spilled, and 2) the response by local government officials (i.e. Governor) who are buddies with Norfolk Southern's executives.

But one of the biggest political problems for Democrats is that they're unwilling to do things to benefit from tragedies.
Republican on the other hand LOVE exploiting tragedies.

I give you prime examples number one and two by brandonbullshitter. Enjoy the circus, performed by the clown.

It shows how out of touch and how much contempt that Democrats and the Biden admin have for average americans. Pothole is more worried about equity and personal time than a whole town getting nuked by chemicals.

Democrats never let an opportunity go to waste when it comes to identity politics or pushing their ideological agenda. No money in helping clean up a town nuked by a chemical burn.

Way to project, clown. Keep drinking that kool-aid and carrying that water.

 

[MrSquished]

Huevos is right in that Democrats have not seized the messaging for this event correctly.

 

[fskimospy]

It didn't read too doom & gloomy to me...and I didn't disagree with the statement. /shrug

No, but the optics don't end at the border of East Palestine or Ohio. This has obviously been national news since the day it occurred, and only been blown up in the media because of 1) the hazardous chemicals spilled, and 2) the response by local government officials (i.e. Governor) who are buddies with Norfolk Southern's executives.

I give you prime examples number one and two by brandonbullshitter. Enjoy the circus, performed by the clown.


Way to project, clown. Keep drinking that kool-aid and carrying that water.

Fair enough, maybe I read it wrong in context of what he’s said before.

 

[emperus]

I had to lol.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1628745444653256704

 

[Lanyap]

Important breaking news from Fox.

Buttigieg mocked for appearing to wear dress boots while on the ground in East Palestine, Ohio

Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg appeared to wear leather dress boots while surveying the train derailment damage on the ground in East Palestine, Ohio.

www.foxnews.com

In other news: trump visited the site in UGG boots and jr is wearing shoes similar to Pete. You can’t make this shit up.

 

[HomerJS]

Quiz: Who has federal responsibility for the derailment cleanup?

Quiz: When did the answer to the above arrive onsite?

Question: Why is the fucking headline on Fox this eve, “Pete Buttigieg didn’t arrive onsite for over 3 weeks”?

That network is a fucking cancer on this country that must be eliminated. Joseph Gobbles couldn’t do a better job spreading lies and misinformation and the fools who follow them go along their merry way in blind ignorance.

Anyone wonder why the Russian people haven’t overthrown Putin yet? One big reason, state controlled media.

Here is a journalist’s report about watching 50 hrs of Russian state TV and what they tell their people. What does it sound like?
[media]

 

[darkswordsman17]

Oh, is Trump just there to help the town clean up, maybe throwing rolls of paper towels at people?

I'm guessing its personal, seems he lost his shipment of spray-tan.

 

[brycejones]

Important breaking news from Fox.

Buttigieg mocked for appearing to wear dress boots while on the ground in East Palestine, Ohio

Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg appeared to wear leather dress boots while surveying the train derailment damage on the ground in East Palestine, Ohio.

www.foxnews.com

In other news: trump visited the site in UGG boots and jr is wearing shoes similar to Pete. You can’t make this shit up.

Modern day magas prefer their male leaders to wear white thigh high rubber boots. They have some weird kinks I guess.

 

[HomerJS]

I had to lol.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1628745444653256704

Story that goes with tweet. Fox resorting to homophobic slurs to attack Pete. Fucker Tarlson calling him "flamboyant". We know what that means. Wait, so right wingers are not racist and homophobic?
Stunned Fox hosts find actual facts on air & blame Pete Buttigieg because Trump (msn.com)

 

[HomerJS]

Not to be intentionally harsh about it but ask yourself who is responsible for the derailment?

Answer: The town of East Palestine. Why? Those people are are trying to blame Biden and Sec Pete for the disaster but what we know as of today there was a wheel bearing failure causing it to overheat and the condition was missed 3 times. According to reports to date this incident was preventable.
NTSB calls Ohio train derailment '100% preventable,' says operators were warned of overheated axle | Fox News

The people of East Palestine voted for Trump by 64%. Trump and Republicans deregulated the rail industry. The result was longer trains, fewer employees and no updated braking systems. What did you think was going to happen? This derailment was almost inevitable. People of EP need to be reminded of this while they are screaming at Biden and Pete.

Biden should immediately call for revoking all of Trump's deregulation and restore regulations under Obama. Dare Republicans to vote against it
PolitiFact | Obama-era safety rule for high-hazard cargo trains was repealed under Trump

 

[Pohemi]

Biden should immediately call for revoking all of Trump's deregulation and restore regulations under Obama. Dare Republicans to vote against it

I was just having this discussion with a friend.

When Donnie took office, he made a ton of EOs in attempts to undo everything that Obama had done while in office, especially environmental and other regulations. He was doing most of it out of spite for that black guy who embarrassed him at a dinner once upon a time.

When Joe took office, he should have immediately undone all of those rollbacks and idiotic, pointless EOs that Donald made. Joe was likely not wanting to appear as juvenile and spiteful as Donald, but he shouldn't have cared IMO. I think he should have done it anyway, and the fact that he hasn't, really irks me. Donald did a LOT of damage, and Joe could potentially reverse a lot of it. I'm not sure he's paid enough attention to the subject.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Not to be intentionally harsh about it but ask yourself who is responsible for the derailment?

Answer: The town of East Palestine. Why? Those people are are trying to blame Biden and Sec Pete for the disaster but what we know as of today there was a wheel bearing failure causing it to overheat and the condition was missed 3 times. According to reports to date this incident was preventable.
NTSB calls Ohio train derailment '100% preventable,' says operators were warned of overheated axle | Fox News

The people of East Palestine voted for Trump by 64%. Trump and Republicans deregulated the rail industry. The result was longer trains, fewer employees and no updated braking systems. What did you think was going to happen? This derailment was almost inevitable. People of EP need to be reminded of this while they are screaming at Biden and Pete.

Biden should immediately call for revoking all of Trump's deregulation and restore regulations under Obama. Dare Republicans to vote against it
PolitiFact | Obama-era safety rule for high-hazard cargo trains was repealed under Trump

PTC would've stopped the train which might have prevented a derailment. All administrations have been giving out waivers delaying its implementation which should've been completed back in 2015.

 

[Jaskalas]

It's going to take multiple trials broadcast to the public for those idiots to even start breaking the spell.

Come on people, sue Fox News into oblivion.

The human brain cannot be separated from religion.
Taking down Fox News would be viewed as the second coming and crucifixion of Jesus.
We still need to do it, but the faithful are, practically, forever lost.

We need to snip them to stop the propaganda from recruiting more to their cause.

 

[Jaskalas]

Conservatives do a great job ginning up the faux outrage.

What is a Church without the Gospel.
Ever will they do "The Lord's Work". AKA spread the fud.
Fud is what grants them political power. Propaganda is actually highly effective. Scary thought, that.

 

[hal2kilo]

Important breaking news from Fox.

Buttigieg mocked for appearing to wear dress boots while on the ground in East Palestine, Ohio

Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg appeared to wear leather dress boots while surveying the train derailment damage on the ground in East Palestine, Ohio.

www.foxnews.com

In other news: trump visited the site in UGG boots and jr is wearing shoes similar to Pete. You can’t make this shit up.

Looks about as natural as Dukakis riding on a tank. EDIT: and another sly attack against his current competitor, as they weren't tall, slick, and blazingly white.

 

[Brainonska511]

I was just having this discussion with a friend.

When Donnie took office, he made a ton of EOs in attempts to undo everything that Obama had done while in office, especially environmental and other regulations. He was doing most of it out of spite for that black guy who embarrassed him at a dinner once upon a time.

When Joe took office, he should have immediately undone all of those rollbacks and idiotic, pointless EOs that Donald made. Joe was likely not wanting to appear as juvenile and spiteful as Donald, but he shouldn't have cared IMO. I think he should have done it anyway, and the fact that he hasn't, really irks me. Donald did a LOT of damage, and Joe could potentially reverse a lot of it. I'm not sure he's paid enough attention to the subject.

ECP brake regulations wouldn't have applied to this train or even helped, and the focus on them is stupid. The primary issue is that NS had defect detectors to be identify overheating wheel bearings that didn't work right: a train pulled a hot boxing car for 20+ miles before it derailed. And then throw in the mix of class 1 railroads being run by capitalist dipshits who will do any sort of thing to make a quick buck, like the bs PSR, extra long trains that can't fit in sidings and are hard to break up of there are problems, minimal people on the ground, and minimal maintenance...

I guess you can throw in a dash of an underfunded FRA, from a regulatory perspective, but even if they were fully funded, the railroads are all running on private right of ways, limiting the FRA's oversight compared to say, the FAA.

 

[K1052]

ECP brake regulations wouldn't have applied to this train or even helped, and the focus on them is stupid. The primary issue is that NS had defect detectors to be identify overheating wheel bearings that didn't work right: a train pulled a hot boxing car for 20+ miles before it derailed. And then throw in the mix of class 1 railroads being run by capitalist dipshits who will do any sort of thing to make a quick buck, like the bs PSR, extra long trains that can't fit in sidings and are hard to break up of there are problems, minimal people on the ground, and minimal maintenance...

I guess you can throw in a dash of an underfunded FRA, from a regulatory perspective, but even if they were fully funded, the railroads are all running on private right of ways, limiting the FRA's oversight compared to say, the FAA.

Class 1s to random town: Look I know you all have a few concerns about the train full of PCBs, medium level radioactive waste, and surplus napalm that we derailed into your drinking water plant but have you even given any thought to our operating ratio? I mean that's the real victim here if we're all being honest.

 

[Pohemi]

The ECP brakes are one narrow, very specific instance. I was talking about ALL the regulatory rollbacks that Donnie did, many if not most of them unnecessarily out of spite.

 

[Brainonska511]

The ECP brakes are one narrow, very specific instance. I was talking about ALL the regulatory rollbacks that Donnie did, many if not most of them unnecessarily out of spite.

I have a feeling that those rollbacks were negligible overall to this situation. Railroads have been being shitty to all for 150 years, and stuff like PSR has been a bigger and bigger thing since the 2000s. Gotta keep up those profits.

The bigger thing is to bring back nationalization of the right of way and the infrastructure. It's clear that class 1 railroads have been poor stewards of the property they got for cheap from us.