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"Tom Brady prefer his balls to feel a certain way" - balls underinflated

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should pats lose their spot to colts in the superbowl?

  • yes

  • no

  • RG3 is better than Luck

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Retro Rob said:
You know the NFL is going to do things their way, period. Just supply a standard set for both teams to use, and balls for the kicking game.

Lay it to rest, right now.
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It's completely asinine. They should absolutely supply standard balls if they are going to have rules for how they are to be inflated, etc. Makes zero sense.

KT
 
Subyman said:
Faulty air gauge when they pumped them?
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Then all 12 should have been the same. Sounds like there was 1 "show me" ball and 11 ringers.

Oh well, yes they are easier to throw, catch, and hold onto. NE is a better team either way but you get tired of the "advantages" NE takes. And contrary to some this isn't a grey area. This is the rule. They broke the rule. Minor one, yes, but yet another example of where Billacheat walks the grey line in everything and then is willing to go over the line when he thinks he can get away with it. Fantastic X&O guy, knows how to run a winning organization, was a couple plays away from 5-0 in Super Bowls, but he isn't very likable. And it isn't because he is gruff with the press but because of stuff like this. I like his persona but this stuff is stupid.
 
KeithTalent said:
Right, so someone does something wrong once, they should automatically be punished for anything they are accused of in the future. Ridiculous. 😀

KT
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I meant that to sound like I was undecided on the issue.

If this were...I don't know...the Buccs, no one would really care or think it was intentional. If it were just one or two of the balls, no one would really are or think it was intentional. But pair up the Pats with the 11 of 12 balls? I'm not really inclined to give them any benefit of the doubt.
 
Maybe the rules need to be changed - the NFL provides ALL of the balls, all brand new, every game. It's a multi-billion dollar industry; the NFL is tax exempt. You'd think they can afford some footballs.
 
basically meaningless as both sides get to use the altered balls.

it was a blow out anyways.

oh but people love drama so .... enjoy, you fucks! 😀
 
DrPizza said:
Maybe the rules need to be changed - the NFL provides ALL of the balls, all brand new, every game. It's a multi-billion dollar industry; the NFL is tax exempt. You'd think they can afford some footballs.
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I think this will be the outcome as well, and should have been done a while ago.
 
KlokWyze said:
basically meaningless as both sides get to use the altered balls.

it was a blow out anyways.

oh but people love drama so .... enjoy, you fucks! 😀
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AGAIN no that they did not. Each team has their own balls. The NFL is weird like that for some reason.
 
the local sports radio station just did an in studio test with properly inflated and 2 PSI under inflated balls. the difference was significant according to them.
 
Don Vito Corleone said:
I did not know that the teams each have their own balls - that seems like a bad idea.

I don't really care if they are punished (assuming they in fact broke the rules, which you are assuming is true). I consider this a de minimis offense that had no discernible effect on the outcome of the game. If the game had been decided by a field goal I might feel differently, but the Colts were just never remotely competitive.
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No, I'm not assuming it is true at this point. I'll wait and see. But if it is true, I do feel sorry for Brady (someone will make this their sig, I know it!).

And I acknowledge that the Colts were going to lose regardless. However, if the Colts had cheated and lost, I'd still want them penalized. As I said earlier, the intention, not the outcome, is what is important.
 
KlokWyze said:
Ahhhh wow. Did not know that. Thanks for clarifying. :thumbsup:

NFL has some strange damn rules.....
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it sounds like it was something the players asked for.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/201...bay-packers-upset-referees-take-air-footballs

Rodgers credited Denver Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning for lobbying the league to allow game balls to be handled by players before the game. Rodgers said he and the team's equipment staff work together to pick balls they've either practiced with or used in previous games.

Before each game, officials take balls from each team and approve them for use. They are separate from the designated K-balls, used on special-teams plays, which cannot be manipulated.

"The majority of people don't like throwing brand-new footballs, and that's why the change was made and Peyton was big on helping all the quarterbacks out with that," Rodgers said. "But if they're going to let us prep them the way we want them, I don't believe they should be able to take air out of the footballs."
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Capt Caveman said:
Huh. He lost to the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3017964
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LOL ... another butthurt eagles player...

"I think they should forfeit, man," said punt returner Reno Mahe, smiling. "We won the Super Bowl. I think we should get it. I'm going to go trade my NFC championship ring for a Super Bowl ring."
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that is hilarious!

that article overall is hilarious. they are mad that the patriots did something different after the first quarter, because in the first quarter they only got 45 yards or so, then 285 or so the rest of the game. yeah, because we've never seen stuff like that.

i wonder if the seahawks cheated against the packers. i mean they only had like 40 yards after almost 2 quarters, then went on to win. THEY MUST BE CHEATING!

then that one guy is crying "they keep doing screens i've never seen so many screens!"

newsflash idiot - if they do a screen and it works, and they do it again and it works, they are going to keep doing it until it stops working. how about you make adjustments?

idiots.
 
I agree the NFL should supply the balls.

If it is found they deflated the balls, I don't think they should get the SB spot. Too bad the rules aren't written like that, though, so they are definitely going. The penalty is very, very light for the effect this can have on the game. I'd call the penalty a fucking joke, TBH. That being said, if they were going to cheat and break a rule, this is a good one since there's no significant consequence. I doubt any team would refuse to pay a few hundred thousand and a draft pick for a significantly better chance of getting into the SB.

Again, if they deflated them.
 
Ban Bot said:
Then all 12 should have been the same. Sounds like there was 1 "show me" ball and 11 ringers.
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So you're saying that NE somehow ran plays with a deflated ball and pulled some slight of hand when giving the ball to the ref after every play? Where did they hide the "show me ball"?

I just don't get how the refs can handle the ball without noticing and yet some defensive player and equipment guy notice right away. According to some posters the difference is quite noticeable. Does that mean the NFL was complicit in the cheating?

I agree that NE needs the smack down if they were found to do this intentionally.
 
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Colts noticed Brady's balls felt funny back in November

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...hup-with-patriots/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

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ots because brady and rodgers dont have the hugest hands. In inclement weather its easier to grip less slips and throw
 
Anyone else think it was irresponsible for the NFL to issue a press release that the balls were underinflated - causing a huge amount of speculation and controversy to result - without also releasing the EVIDENCE that someone on the Patriots was to blame and/or the coaching staff was aware of/orchestrated the issue?

Also - I find it incredibly implausible that the receiver felt a different in the weight of the ball, as reported. He might have felt a difference in the grip, compression, etc., but weight? I don't think so.

http://www.csus.edu/indiv/o/oldenburgj/ENGR1A/NFLFootballWtCalc.pdf
 
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NoCreativity said:
So you're saying that NE somehow ran plays with a deflated ball and pulled some slight of hand when giving the ball to the ref after every play? Where did they hide the "show me ball"?

I just don't get how the refs can handle the ball without noticing and yet some defensive player and equipment guy notice right away. According to some posters the difference is quite noticeable. Does that mean the NFL was complicit in the cheating?

I agree that NE needs the smack down if they were found to do this intentionally.
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Are the refs ever squeezing the ball? If you were handling it like a ref does, you probably are holding it just tight enough to keep it from falling out of your hand. Not squeezing like a player does with the ball in play. Maybe it's not a noticeable difference to a ref.
 
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