"Tom Brady prefer his balls to feel a certain way" - balls underinflated

[brainhulk]

 

[waterjug]

thought: could this be from balls being inflated in a 70 degree room, and then being brought outside into 50 degree weather, which ended up around 40 by the end of the game?

 

[manimal]

thought: could this be from balls being inflated in a 70 degree room, and then being brought outside into 50 degree weather, which ended up around 40 by the end of the game?

read somewhere they did a test and the balls would lose 1 psi per 10 degrees below zero or something close to that. Ill look for it

 

[waggy]

Something has to happen. And it can't just be another fine or loss of draft pick. These guys cheat too much.

that's all its going to be. a fine and draft pick. they can't do anything else.

well besides keep a eye on them.

its a business first. they won't do shit that will take money away from them (the NFL not the team).

i just want to know how eits got to vote 11 times.

also, it's stupid that this is a big deal. from what i read, the patriots give their balls to the officials 2+ hours before the game to be inspected, and they inspected them, and they passed. and then during the game, it's not like the refs never touch or feel the footballs, they are in their hands every single play.

oh and i guess the deflated footballs make the colts offense only muster out 7 points, and makes it so the defense doesn't know how to tackle?

404 - big deal not found

I was wondering if they officials didn't look at the balls and test them before the game. If they hadn't it seemed pretty foolish to me. so it makes me wonder who took air out of them after the officials checked them? and on who's orders?

 

[Jimzz]

thought: could this be from balls being inflated in a 70 degree room, and then being brought outside into 50 degree weather, which ended up around 40 by the end of the game?

If that were the case then the Colts balls would also be underinflated the same.

A official checks out the balls then gives them to the teams. So they were the same when given out yet 11 of 12 of the Pats balls were not in regulation.


But yea if the game was won by a hair then you could make a case the colts should be in the SB. But it was a blowout. Brady and the rest of the starters could have been benched and drinking margaritas the 2nd half and still won.
Pats will lose some draft picks and get a fine, that's about it.

 

[smackababy]

It was 2 PSI, not 2 pounds of weight.

This is what I came to post.

And, what was the PSI before the game started? I mean, there is an acceptable range 12.5-14.5 IIRC, and if they were at the lowest threshold, couldn't the conditions and overall play cause some deflation? I can't imagine a ball holds it PSI very well when Gronk is spiking it into the ground.

If that were the case then the Colts balls would also be underinflated the same.

A official checks out the balls then gives them to the teams. So they were the same when given out yet 11 of 12 of the Pats balls were not in regulation.


But yea if the game was won by a hair then you could make a case the colts should be in the SB. But it was a blowout. Brady and the rest of the starters could have been benched and drinking margaritas the 2nd half and still won.
Pats will lose some draft picks and get a fine, that's about it.

Not true. If the Colts had their balls at 14.5 PSI and they lost the same 2PSI the Patriots did, they would be within the acceptable range. However, like I mentioned above, the the Patriots were at the lower threshold, losing 2PSI would put the balls in fault.

 

[SP33Demon]

I don't understand why they have to cheat to win when they have one of the best QBs of all time and the undisputed best Tight End in football. I would love to see them lose a pick and belicheat will always have an asterisk in my book, especially after their super bowl vs Philly. Calling a screen pass on every single blitz is unheard of and no team gets that lucky.

Here's what we do know about the past: After New England was caught in September, stories emerged of at least four previous spying incidents from seasons past being brought to the league's attention. That likely played a part in commissioner Roger Goddell sending out a summer memo specifically reminding teams of the filming rule.

Included was a reported charge that the Patriots filmed the sideline of the Detroit Lions during a regular-season game in 2006. That begs the common sense question: If Belichick would employ such tactics to beat a pathetic Lions team that finished the season 3-13, then why wouldn't he use it in a Super Bowl?

The Patriots beat the Philadelphia Eagles 24-21 in Super Bowl XXXIX and Eagles players have now expressed questions about how that game played out. Cornerback Sheldon Brown specifically wondered if it was just a coincidence that every time the Eagles blitzed Tom Brady on the decisive fourth-quarter drive, New England called the perfect antidote, a screen pass. Or did the Patriots, indeed, know the Eagles' defensive signals?

"I was like, 'Man, I never saw that many screens,' " Brown told the Associated Press. "Something's not right about that."

Said safety Brian Dawkins, "Now there's always going to be questions about the situation; was it great adjustments at halftime or what?"

Pittsburgh's Hines Ward brought up questions about the Patriots' two AFC championship game victories over the Steelers this decade. Others have complained about other games.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/spygate-tainted-previous-patriots-titles-161100743--nfl.html

When an all time great like Brian Dawkins is questioning things, then something is up. Enjoy your counterfeit rings, Pat fans. A few more incidents like this from belicheat and those SB wins may eventually be asterisked.

 

[purbeast0]

I don't understand why they have to cheat to win when they have one of the best QBs of all time and the undisputed best Tight End in football. I would love to see them lose a pick and belicheat will always have an asterisk in my book, especially after their super bowl vs Philly. Calling a screen pass on every single blitz is unheard of and no team gets that lucky.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/spygate-tainted-previous-patriots-titles-161100743--nfl.html

When an all time great like Brian Dawkins is questioning things, then something is up. Enjoy your counterfeit rings, Pat fans. A few more incidents like this from belicheat and those SB wins may eventually be asterisked.

lol ... yeah, when the losing team questions why they lost, it must be a scandal.

that is called a case of "being a sore loser".

 

[smackababy]

lol ... yeah, when the losing team questions why they lost, it must be a scandal.

that is called a case of "being a sore loser".

Since, it is obvious every win the Patriots had were due to their cheating, does that mean teams that BEAT them cheated even more?

I knew Manning was using a Game Genie last season! There is just no way he could throw that many TDs!

 

[Capt Caveman]

I don't understand why they have to cheat to win when they have one of the best QBs of all time and the undisputed best Tight End in football. I would love to see them lose a pick and belicheat will always have an asterisk in my book, especially after their super bowl vs Philly. Calling a screen pass on every single blitz is unheard of and no team gets that lucky.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/spygate-tainted-previous-patriots-titles-161100743--nfl.html

When an all time great like Brian Dawkins is questioning things, then something is up. Enjoy your counterfeit rings, Pat fans. A few more incidents like this from belicheat and those SB wins may eventually be asterisked.

Huh. We know that Manning, Brady, etc can read defenses and know when a team is going go blitz on them especially stupid teams that don't disguise it.

Calling a screen play on every blitz and the other team doesn't adjust tells me the defense is stupid.

Forgot to add that Cowher, Johnson, Shanahan, Seifert have admitted to taping defensive signals. Denver and SF caught cheating the salary cap. From your logic, Cowboys, Broncos, Steelers, 49ers all have tainted SBs too.

There's talk that Eli and Rodgers overinflate their balls.

Brian Dawkins is just butthurt like McNabb.

 

[Zargon]

I can't imagine a ball holds it PSI very well when Gronk is spiking it into the ground.

really?

then this would be an issue with every team, every week, and not a new thing.

 

[Zargon]

So someone earlier said that the balls each team brings out are switched at halftime. So wouldnt that then benefit the colts with deflated balls in the 2nd half? Plus Gronk has 2 easy TDs he dropped. You sure deflated balls are easier to catch?

no, they switched them out for another set of their own

every QB likes the ball different(heheh twss?)

some like they almost new, some wear them out to scuff ETC, some like 12.5psi, some like 14.5 psi

in general the teams never used each other balls afaik

that's a lot of awesome ball talk...

 

[SP33Demon]

lol ... yeah, when the losing team questions why they lost, it must be a scandal.

that is called a case of "being a sore loser".

Yeah, so future HOFers, ESPN Analyst, 9 Time Pro Bowler, and first man to 30 INTs/30 FF Brian Dawkins is a "sore loser". Congrats on watching football for the first time this year, noob.
http://youtu.be/qe5B8W8ZyR4

 

[Capt Caveman]

Yeah, so future HOFers, ESPN Analyst, 9 Time Pro Bowler, and first man to 30 INTs/30 FF Brian Dawkins is a "sore loser". Congrats on watching football for the first time this year, noob.
http://youtu.be/qe5B8W8ZyR4

Of course he's a sore loser, how many SBs did he win?

 

[pete6032]

oh and i guess the deflated footballs make the colts offense only muster out 7 points

404 - big deal not found

The team plays with the balls they supply when on offense. So the Colts offense was using balls supplied by Indy and the Pats offense was using balls supplied by the Pats team. The Pats also provide the ball boys for the game, so even if they made it past inspection, its possible that the Pats ball boy could have deflated them.

 

[purbeast0]

The team plays with the balls they supply when on offense. So the Colts offense was using balls supplied by Indy and the Pats offense was using balls supplied by the Pats team. The Pats also provide the ball boys for the game, so even if they made it past inspection, its possible that the Pats ball boy could have deflated them.

i know, and that was my point. the deflated balls had absolutely nothing to do with indy being able to put up 7 points in 60 minutes of football.

 

[purbeast0]

Yeah, so future HOFers, ESPN Analyst, 9 Time Pro Bowler, and first man to 30 INTs/30 FF Brian Dawkins is a "sore loser". Congrats on watching football for the first time this year, noob.
http://youtu.be/qe5B8W8ZyR4

lol yes he clearly is. he's also an eagle, and that team and their fans are pure trash. so it's not surprising they would cry about losing.

 

[IronWing]

Cheaters!

I searched but could not find a clip from the Incredible Hulk episode "Killer Instinct" concerning football cheaters, filthy CHEATERS!

 

[SP33Demon]

Of course he's a sore loser, how many SBs did he win?

Yes, please show us quotes of how Dawkins was a sore loser during his time in the NFL. This should be good. /popcorn

 

[TheSlamma]

I don't think underinflated balls made a huge difference since the score was so lopsided, but at the same time the Pats just can't seem to stop cheating.

BeliCheat just has zero integrity.

 

[SP33Demon]

ESPN Boston is now calling for punishment of the Pats. You know it's bad when your own media outlet won't defend you.

Prior to this point, the feeling was that if one or two footballs came in under weight, it was going to be hard for the NFL to make a decisive ruling against the Patriots. But 11 of 12 footballs is pretty strong evidence that something was happening from the time officials inspected the footballs 2 hours, 15 minutes before the game and the actual game itself.

The Patriots, assuming the initial inspection of footballs by referee Walt Anderson and his crew was done correctly and that weather wasn't a factor, should be held accountable.

As I wrote in Tuesday’s Patriots mailbag, “There are specific rules that prohibit altering the ball after they have been checked by the officials 2 hours, 15 minutes before game time. If the Patriots (or any team, for that matter) are knowingly breaking those rules outside of the normal scope of what is accepted (e.g. New York Times story on Eli Manning; Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers acknowledging how he likes his footballs to feel), there is a price to pay.”

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-...d/4776756/patriots-should-be-held-accountable

Losing a 3rd, 2nd, or even 1st rounder is going to leave a mark. Hope it was worth it, belicheat.

 

[SSSnail]

You should go back and highlight the word assuming. Did everyone, or just about, in this thread fail their 5th grade science?

Lots of haters...

 

[IronWing]

You should go back and highlight the word assuming. Did everyone, or just about, in this thread fail their 5th grade science?

Lots of haters...

Hate? Nah, I'm just enjoying the 5th grade humor.

Stephen Gostkowski kicks Pats' flaccid balls!

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Everybody on earth pretty much feels the same way, which begs the question yet again of WHY are they cheating? They're good enough to win, why do they do things like this?

This is exactly how I feel about James Harden. He's got otherworldly levels of talent, he can shoot from anywhere, he can drive and create off the dribble... but he spends every other play flopping around like he's been shot with a berserk dart (that and his complete lack of effort on defense, although he's turning that around this year). But when you've got so much talent and you're clearly better than all but a couple people in the game, why resort to underhanded cheating tactics to win? You can win without it. The Patriots don't need to underinflate a football to win... so why bother? It's nonsensical.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I am having a hard time caring about this even if it was done intentionally (and the jury is still out on that). Whatever benefit Brady enjoyed from the under inflated balls was also available to Luck.

I am not a Patriots fan but I find the butthurt coming from Pats haters endlessly entertaining . . .