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fredtam

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: SampSon
The people who have the most wealth, tip the most.
actually waiters and bartenders tip the most.

Yep, my absolute minimum tip is $5 unless you are just a dumbass. I usually tip 20%+.
 

Isla

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I'm Hispanic and I tip damn well... 20% minimum, and an average of $5 per delivery of pizza. My hairdresser gets 20%, my seamstress gets 20%, and so on.

I wonder if something like socioeconomic status might have more to do with it than race.

<---has white inlaws who are rich but low class and don't tip.... what do you make of THAT?
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jumpem
So what about people like me that can afford to tip 25%, but usually tip around 10% simply because I don't think someone working a job like that should be making more than $10 an hour?

What about a pizza delivery driver? They certainly do more work than waiters do, do you think they should get more?

More than a waitress in a restaurant, absolutely. But remember none of these jobs require any real amount of education. They should not be making close to or more than entry level engineers in my opinion. That is why I'm a small tipper.

Many waiters and waitresses get a standard pay of less than minumum wage requiring tips to make up the difference. Also in many places they are required to tip out the hostess and bartender. Not all the money goes to them.
 
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I knew a guy that used to only tip $1 - no matter what! Can you imagine being a waiter and only getting a $1 tip?
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: Isla
I'm Hispanic and I tip damn well... 20% minimum, and an average of $5 per delivery of pizza. My hairdresser gets 20%, my seamstress gets 20%, and so on.

I wonder if something like socioeconomic status might have more to do with it than race.

<---has white inlaws who are rich but low class and don't tip.... what do you make of THAT?

exception and not the rule
 

Ns1

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I worked as a valet for 2.5 years.



WARNING IF YOU'RE EASILY OFFENDED STOP READING NOW.

Black people stiff ALOT. Asian people tend to tip a dollar or 2. Just enough so they're not cheap but they really are.

Jaguar owners DO NOT TIP. or tip a dollar

White people tip consistently decent.

Ricers don't valet because they're so cheap.


The people who have the most wealth, tip the most.

taht's the biggest pile of crock i have ever seen.

kobe bryant came to valet and stiffed the guy. warren g is a consistent stiffer. dennis rodman is a cheap fvck.

tim salmon tips quite well however.

people with wealth are hit or miss. if it's a mid 20's to mid 30's guy, they'll drop MAD amounts of money. anything over that and usually that is not the case.

women don't tip well either.
 

Pennstate

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actually waiters and bartenders tip the most.

I absolutely agree. Anybody who has worked as a waitstaff understands how stressful waiting tables is. I tip a minimum of 15% On occasions, especially on smaller bills, I tip 50% or more. I do this in inexpensive restruants. Just because the food is cheaper, it doesn't mean the waiter works any less.
 

Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: SampSon
The people who have the most wealth, tip the most.
actually waiters and bartenders tip the most.
Right, overlooked that aspect.

They do it because they are in the same industry.

I think you people quoting me are missing my point.
Income levels for whites are generally higher than thoes of minorities.
All has to do with the socioeconomic level.
 

Mnementh

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: beer
Jumpem -

I hope you never patronize the same restaurant on a regular basis. Staff do talk. 10% is insulting.

why? they should be glad they get anything at all

the US is the only country that tipping is required in, most other countried dont allow it and find it rude to tip

just pay them a normal wage and dont worry about the tips

Where did you get the idea the US is the only country where you tip? Pretty much everywhere in Europe tips, I always leave a tip whenever I go to a restaurant, I always tip the guys who deliver any food or groceries etc. Well I say always obviously it depends on the service I receive... A lot of places the staff can only live off their tips, they get paid minimum wage and expect to make it up with the tips.
 

DWW

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How much should you tip grocery delivery?

I use Grocery Gateway in Toronto from time to time and can't figure out what is a good tip. I'm not going to tip them 15% of my grocery bill :confused:
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: NakaNaka
There is definitely a relationship between race and tipping though to see if there is a correlation, tbere would have to more of a study done.

Personally, I tip about 3 bucks to the delivery guys here in NYC. At a restaurant, I double the tax. (so thats about 17-18%, I add a few bucks if it is a very good job.)

But back to the question at hand - it could have to do with blacks having less money. It could be reverse racism (blacks dont like white delivery guys) ... But an average of 72 cents to the delivery guy is pathetic. Rude ass people.

Blacks hating whites is not reverse racism, it's just racism.
 

KevinH

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: SampSon
The people who have the most wealth, tip the most.
actually waiters and bartenders tip the most.

Beyond true. After working in a restaurant it's minimum 20% tip for me.
 

Mnementh

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Originally posted by: DWW
How much should you tip grocery delivery?

I use Grocery Gateway in Toronto from time to time and can't figure out what is a good tip. I'm not going to tip them 15% of my grocery bill :confused:

Well I'm in the UK so completely different I would assume I normally tip the guy enough to get a couple of pints (depends on how much he's had to carry in) so normally around a fiver
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Pennstate
actually waiters and bartenders tip the most.

I absolutely agree. Anybody who has worked as a waitstaff understands how stressful waiting tables is. I tip a minimum of 15% On occasions, especially on smaller bills, I tip 50% or more. I do this in inexpensive restruants. Just because the food is cheaper, it doesn't mean the waiter works any less.

I've never been a waiter or a bartender, but I know a lot of them. I try to follow the same guidelines.
 

Kishan

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man some of you fvckers really are cheap. Usual service gets about 15-20%. 25%+ for good service. If you worked as a waiter, you realized that some of you people really are asses. Don't say that these people are uneducated. Many are paying their way through college, and thats respectable.
 

Supermercado

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I worked two summers and breaks from school as a pizza driver and I hate to say it, but like people have said, there does seem to be a correlation between tipping and race. And no, it's definitely not always the case. What I have noticed, and I don't mean to derail the thread or anything, but tips seem to be in similar amounts based on the area being delivered to, regardless of race. For example, if you go into a middle-class neighborhood, you're probably going to get a pretty decent tip. That makes sense, but where it gets weird is when you go into the lower-class or upper-class areas. It's not always the rule but it does happen often enough that I've taken note of it, when you go into a trailer park, commonly considered to be lower-class homes, I've found that I usually got tipped well. And on the flip side, sometimes when I'd go to the really nice neighborhoods, I'd get nothing or stiffed. We'd talk about it sometimes among the drivers and the only real reasoning we could come up with was, if you were "poor," you generally had to work hard for your money, doing manual labor or something of that nature, and knew how hard drivers work to get your food to you on time, etc. On the other hand, the only thing we could come up with for getting bad tips from nicer neighborhoods was that people got rich or well-off for a reason, being that they weren't frivolous with their money. Neither of those last two example are absolutely true of course; I got plenty of stiffs from trailer parks and plenty of good tips from the nice neighborhoods.

k, enough of me. I'm sure none of that made sense and will just get overlooked in this discussion, anyway :p Carry on.

Edit: Another point I'd like to make... pizza is a luxury food. It's expensive. You can get much more for your money buying from a grocery store. If you can blow $20 on one meal where it could be done for less than half that, you can give the driver a couple bucks for gas, etc.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: SampSon
The people who have the most wealth, tip the most.
actually waiters and bartenders tip the most.
Right, overlooked that aspect.

They do it because they are in the same industry.

I think you people quoting me are missing my point.
Income levels for whites are generally higher than thoes of minorities.
All has to do with the socioeconomic level.
Yes and no. There are plenty of affluent black folks here in Atlanta and they tip terribly according to my friends in the restaurant industry (no, not McDonalds). If you can pony up $100, for dinner, you can pony up at least 15% for a tip.
 

DWW

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Originally posted by: Mnementh
Originally posted by: DWW
How much should you tip grocery delivery?

I use Grocery Gateway in Toronto from time to time and can't figure out what is a good tip. I'm not going to tip them 15% of my grocery bill :confused:

Well I'm in the UK so completely different I would assume I normally tip the guy enough to get a couple of pints (depends on how much he's had to carry in) so normally around a fiver

:p

I'll admit when I paid by CC online I would never tip them. But most of them were horrible English speakers who always came late, after the delivery time frame like...when I was supposed to be at college.