Third world Mississippi?

[Fanatical Meat]

The article got into more detail into costs and none of them were cheap. They are also slowly doing improvements here but it's one step forward and two steps back. There have been two major water main breaks near my house. One just a couple of weeks ago. I believe they are also trying to separate drain water from sewer water in the process which is good.

Yeah my city has had fairly regular water main breaks however after doing work on a bunch of the old stuff it is getting noticeably better. For whatever reason things like that take time to fix.

 

[Lanyap]

Lived in Mississippi my entire life in the north half. Go ahead, make fun. I don't fucking care.

Jackson has slowly turned into a third world country over the past 30 years so. Many wealthy people used to call it home but the white flight beginning in the 1980's has killed its tax base. Now all the rich white people live in the suburbs surrounding the city. Madison, about 15 miles north, is probably the greatest concentration of mansions and wealth in the state.

The infrastructure of the city is crumbling. Worst streets in the state, raw sewage backing up into residential neighborhoods, terrible drainage, and now the water problem.

It's hard to pin it on one particular thing. Incompetence and corruption at the local level (democrats), indifference at the state level (republicans), and no tax money is why the city is a shithole.

Here is another good summary of what happened to Jackson. Both of my parents were born and raised in MS. I spent time in and around Jackson in my youth.

The 1990s saw a dramatic change in Jackson's racial makeup. According to the 2000 U.S. Census, nearly 35,000 white residents fled the city from 1990 to 2000. The white population dropped dramatically while the Black population continued to rise.

White residents took their tax dollars to the surrounding bedroom communities. Between 2000 and 2020 the populations of Madison and Rankin counties grew by 35,000 and 42,000, respectively.

In a state where the economy was built on a history of racial struggles, what was left in Jackson was a high concentration of low-wage jobs, renters and impoverished families. This caused revenue to take a hit, as many families were simply unable to afford any pronounced increase in services. According to Brookings Metro Monitor, the Jackson metro area has only increased jobs by 6.6% between 2009 and 2019. Over that same period, median wages in Jackson declined by 7.6%.

As wages declined, so did the quality of the city's water and sewer systems.

Fixing Jackson's infrastructure a matter of politics, access to resources for beleaguered city — Mississippi Center for Investigative Reporting

The 1990s saw a dramatic change in Jackson's racial makeup. According to the 2000 U.S. Census, nearly 35,000 white residents fled the city from 1990 to 2000. The white population dropped dramatically while the Black population continued to rise.

www.mississippicir.org

 

[brandonbull]

Did your parents have any kids that lived?

Nope. I'm a ghost. What's smoother? Your brain or lens for a telescope?

 

[Lezunto]

Everyone who is writing about the history and dark episodes in Mississippi knows exactly what is wrong in Jackson, Miss.: A continuing dismissal of the lives and contributions of Black Americans in the Magnolia State.

Nothing much has changed over the decades. The state now has a $2.5 billion surplus. Why not spend some of those funds to improve or possibly replace parts of the water system in Jackson, Miss.?

And still, people grouse and blame Black people. They are not in control of the state budget. I'd rather not author a long comment that rehashes what has gone on in Mississippi. I'd rather use a link to a news Op-Ed.

Opinion: The endgame to Jackson's water crisis? 'Black death' | CNN

It is almost as if Jackson is being told to drink from the 'colored' water fountain all over again, except this time drinking the water might make you deathly ill, writes W. Ralph Eubanks of the crisis unfolding in Mississippi's majority-Black capital city.

www.cnn.com

 

[Captante]

Nope. I'm a ghost.

More like mom dropped you on your head a few times.

 

[ivwshane]

Nope. I'm a ghost. What's smoother? Your brain or lens for a telescope?

Sometimes I think you are a figment of my imagination but then I realize I’m not creative enough to come up with the over the top bullshit you spew as fact. If I were a crazy person I think I could imagine coming up with about 60% of the batshit crazy stuff you post.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Just imagine what would happen in the South if President Biden said “They (people in Mississippi) should just put draino down their sinks and toilet and there wouldn’t be a problem”
Then dragged his feet on releasing federal aid.

Let’s contrast that the California who were told to rake their forrests to prevent fires. Then dragged his feet with federal help.

Part of me wants to say fuck these people, they were so happy to not help CA, they were so happy about capping propert tax deductions so wealthy people get a pay break simply because that policy hits the Northeast and CA the most. Fuck them.

However my kind side takes over and says we need to help. They are the dysfunctional sibling.

 

[Lezunto]

The residents who are suffering in Jackson, Miss., are not necessarily supporters of Congresspersons who voted against authorizing assistance for California and hard hit Northeast states.

People should always come first. Once we Dems get away from that, then we are similar to those we oppose.

 

[manly]

damn, where did all that money go? corruption must be rampant there.

There's corruption in many levels of government, but MS state sure takes the cake. They're basically using TANF federal block grants for anything but welfare. It's fucking despicable.

FBI questions Brett Favre in Mississippi welfare scandal

The state auditor says $70 million in federal welfare funds went to Favre, a volleyball complex and a former pro wrestler in a scandal that has rocked Mississippi.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Mai72]

How the hell did they get to this point?

The Capital city of the state,
A city of about 150,000,
Have been under a boil water advisory since July,
... and now they have no water... can't flush, can't fight fires, can't even run air conditioners that rely on water.
They don't even have bottled water to hand out.

Some red states can't keep the lights on, others can't keep the water flowing.

What it's like trying to survive without water in Jackson, Mississippi | CNN

Most people in the United States take it for granted that when you turn on a faucet, you get potable water.

www.cnn.com

This is a recipe for rioting, and violence. You can't expect people to live without clean running water. Especially in a HOT state like Mississippi.

 

[Lezunto]

Mississippi has been doing this a long, long time. This just didn't start recently.

Just the stories about the lack of clean water in Jackson, Miss.

As painful as this is, no one needs to riot over this situation. National Guardsmen, police, state troopers and possibly feds from different agencies will have a field day gunning down people.

And after any violence subsides, the refrains of "F--k em! Let 'em die of thirst!" will begin.

 

[Lezunto]

It's not just in Mississippi.

Baltimore latest among major cities experiencing contamination in water supply

Baltimore has become the latest major city to experience a water crisis involving contamination in the water supply.

abcnews.go.com

 

[kage69]

There's corruption in many levels of government, but MS state sure takes the cake. They're basically using TANF federal block grants for anything but welfare. It's fucking despicable.

FBI questions Brett Favre in Mississippi welfare scandal

The state auditor says $70 million in federal welfare funds went to Favre, a volleyball complex and a former pro wrestler in a scandal that has rocked Mississippi.

www.nbcnews.com

Damn. Takes 86 million from the Feds, denies 90% of people who apply for welfare. Cue the special projects.

Blue states should be able to deny benefits to red states who abuse their red state subsidies to enrich private interests. Repugs always bring up not wanting their tax dollars going to Planned Parenthood, so it's a concept they should understand.

Brett Favre should be ashamed to be involved. The level of misery this corrupt system maintains in places like MS is disgusting. I would have thought he'd cover the interest to be free and clear of the situation, but nope, silly me.

 

[Amol S.]

The only known good news in the horizon for Mississippi would probably arrive within 20 to 40 years from now, omly if trends continue the same as it currently does. According to the Decennial Census since the 90's, the large majority of people leaving the state of Mississippi are in fact those who are only white ( the Republican's majority base). Thus, there is a chance Mississippi might turn blue.
Historical racial demographics

Racial composition	1990[81]	2000[82]	2010[83]	2020[80]
White	63.5%	61.4%	59.1%	56.0%
Black	35.6%	36.3%	37.0%	38.0%
Asian	0.5%	0.7%	0.9%	1.1%
Native	0.3%	0.4%	0.5%	0.6%
Other race	0.1%	0.5%	1.3%	-
Two or more races	–	0.7%	1.2%	1.4%

 

[Greenman]

The only known good news in the horizon for Mississippi would probably arrive within 20 to 40 years from now, omly if trends continue the same as it currently does. According to the Decennial Census since the 90's, the large majority of people leaving the state of Mississippi are in fact those who are only white ( the Republican's majority base). Thus, there is a chance Mississippi might turn blue.
Historical racial demographics

Racial composition	1990[81]	2000[82]	2010[83]	2020[80]
White	63.5%	61.4%	59.1%	56.0%
Black	35.6%	36.3%	37.0%	38.0%
Asian	0.5%	0.7%	0.9%	1.1%
Native	0.3%	0.4%	0.5%	0.6%
Other race	0.1%	0.5%	1.3%	-
Two or more races	–	0.7%	1.2%	1.4%

How many city's, county's, or states have improved after the white people left? Is democrat rule so important that it's worth giving up prosperity for?

 

[brycejones]

How many city's, county's, or states have improved after the white people left? Is democrat rule so important that it's worth giving up prosperity for?

Wow dude, I didn't think you were that guy. But there it is.

 

[BlueWeasel]

There's corruption in many levels of government, but MS state sure takes the cake. They're basically using TANF federal block grants for anything but welfare. It's fucking despicable.

FBI questions Brett Favre in Mississippi welfare scandal

The state auditor says $70 million in federal welfare funds went to Favre, a volleyball complex and a former pro wrestler in a scandal that has rocked Mississippi.

www.nbcnews.com

Corruption is prevalent throughout MS. White, black, red, blue....it doesn't matter.

Now regarding the TANF funds, that's all GOP, including the former Governor who had his hands in it. I'm hoping the Feds get involved and quick. Hell, it's their money!

 

[kage69]

How many city's, county's, or states have improved after the white people left? Is democrat rule so important that it's worth giving up prosperity for?

Like that kick to the head, this explains a lot about some of your posts. But I'm curious: 9 of the 10 poorest states are red states aren't they? What prosperity would they be giving up exactly?

Mississippi is the poorest state, ranks last in healthcare, second to last in infrastructure, 43rd in education. Democrat rule is probably the only thing that will improve that shit hole of a state.

Better questions - what is it about repug rule that makes all that red state misery worth it? What is it about poor outcomes and institutional racism that you find so important?

 

[IronWing]

How many city's, county's, or states have improved after the white people left? Is democrat rule so important that it's worth giving up prosperity for?

At least you got states right.

 

[ElFenix]

"democrat rule"

someone desperately wants a return to white monarchy.

 

[Lezunto]

Greenman,

I hope you are not implying that People of Color cannot create their own prosperity. What nonsense is this?

You never heard of the Greenwood section of Tulsa, Okla.? It was a Black neighborhood that was so prosperous, Whites who lived in the state were jealous as hell.

Black Americans always created their own business districts. But these attracted the envious rage of Whites. Heavy handed police actions and questionable business rules enforcement continuously curtailed this wealth development.

Past Successful and Prosperous Black Communities Violently Destroyed by White Neighbors - InnerKwest™ | A Community Sentinel

Past Successful and Prosperous Black Communities Violently Destroyed by White Neighbors.The Atlanta Race Riot or Atlanta Riot of 1906 was the first.

innerkwest.com

 

[nickqt]

How many city's, county's, or states have improved after the white people left? Is democrat rule so important that it's worth giving up prosperity for?

Stick with the BothSidesDoIt™ schtick since that will fool some people into believing you have any integrity.

 

[Paratus]

How many city's, county's, or states have improved after the white people left? Is democrat rule so important that it's worth giving up prosperity for?

You’ve really raised the bar up to here.

 

[Muse]

WHEN climate change deniers suddenly realize that 1000 year floods are happening every other year, and they get sick of watching their homes float away, then maybe they’ll wake up.
Just like it taking the parents of a child killed by an assault weapon to convert from loving assault weapons to insisting on assault weapon bans…. it will also take personal disaster from a flood to convert climate change deniers into climate change believers.
This is called doing it learning the hard way.

FTFY

 

[Meghan54]

Like that kick to the head, this explains a lot about some of your posts. But I'm curious: 9 of the 10 poorest states are red states aren't they? What prosperity would they be giving up exactly?

Mississippi is the poorest state, ranks last in healthcare, second to last in infrastructure, 43rd in education. Democrat rule is probably the only thing that will improve that shit hole of a state.

Better questions - what is it about repug rule that makes all that red state misery worth it? What is it about poor outcomes and institutional racism that you find so important?

Pssst….here’s a hint: Greenie ain’t black, just pure white bread. 🤪

But, please don’t chastise him too much. Even tho Greenie celebrates being one of the most willfully uninformed posters on this board, even he can be slightly excused for his utter ignorance of black economic success stories, esp. when you consider that damned near every time blacks have had economic success, whites seem to burn it down, over and over and over.