Do you have a post that isn't retarded whitenoise on this forum at all, or anywhere for that matter? I doubt it, but you have over 2100 posts, and they can't all be stupid can they?
Do you have a post that isn't retarded whitenoise on this forum at all, or anywhere for that matter? I doubt it, but you have over 2100 posts, and they can't all be stupid can they?
JohnOfSheffield
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This is so true, and the same goes for Blair and England, i did not support it then either, but my job requires of me to do my duty.
The US pissed away the support you had after 9/11 and i will never forget Powell sweating trying to claim shit he knew was false and it was picked apart before he even got to finish his statement, it's no wonder he quit, he's no puppet for stupid arse idiots.
JohnOfSheffield
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Well, considering that is the most intelligent thing you have ever posted on this forum, good job.
No really?
If you thought I was going to continue explaining simple facts to adults then you have been mistaken.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, no matter how retarded. This is why I love America. Now, if I were in...say...Syria, my opinion wouldn't float so well.
Vic
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Uhh... beyond an ability to generalize the lack of liberal governments in the ME as being solely the result of Islam, you haven't explained any simple facts to us adults. But you have managed to represent a rather startling ignorance about Islam and Muslims. I am quite certain that you have never bothered to actually study the faith or read the Quran before casting this judgment upon it.
For one thing, it is not a monolithic faith any more than Christianity is. It makes no more sense to blame all of Islam for the crimes of their fundamentalists than it does to blame all of Christianity for the crimes of fundamentalist abortion clinic bombers. But nah, just keep trolling...
circle rant, still failed to combat my original points...those being:
*the islamic theocracies and how their country, society, and culture revolve around islam
*the FACT that these countries are incapable of accepting non-islamic rules, laws and teachings
DO YOU DENY?
And I swear if you @#$&@#()ing respond with "but but the evil Christians did it" I'm gonna ask for a lock.
Oops, you probably shouldn't have mentioned Turkey. They are a secular democracy. You know there is actually an argument that I somewhat subscribe to that Islam may be incompatible with democracy, but what you are trying to do here is childish and stupid. Grow up man.
Someone before said you were 16 and had never been out of the country. I really hope for your sake that it's true. If you are a grown man behaving the way you are in this thread right now I pity you.
Face value yes, but they are far from secular in terms of society.
They definitely are an exception to the rule...and it's surprising how successful they've been, but with the new president...I don't know.
I think the term secular democracy is a little dishonest. People are going to think "Europe" when it reality it really isn't.
Ok.
Ahhhh, so now there are exceptions. I'm sorry man, but your posts in this thread reveal a shocking ignorance of the rest of the world. I can only assume by your refusal to answer that you never have visited any of these places. What's funny about this, is that you try to say that we who HAVE visited them are the ones with our heads in the sand.
JohnOfSheffield
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The OP is 16 years old, i doubt he's been out of his parents house at all.
It's quite obvious that someone (father) told him to hate Muslims regardless if they are fundamentalists or not and keep them high as the real burdon on modern day America.
The truth, which i have tried to tell him several times, doesn't mean shit to him.
He's gone and no matter if i have been to Iraq and am in Afghanistan and hang out with Muslims, i doubt he has ever met a Muslim, he doesn't give a shit, experiences, knowledge and lessons of life isn't something he cares about, he simply hates Muslims, and that is all he does regardless of facts, he just hates Muslims.
I'd pity him but then again, he does have access to the information, so... i guess i just hate him as the extremist he is, he's no different, the Talibans are the same, only accepting of those who subscribe to their particular extremism.
I wish some others who have balls and know this would get involved in this thread because i have to leave.
So do you challenge what I said??
Stop suggesting and SAY WHAT YOU MEAN!
And BTW, I DO NOT HATE MUSLIMS.
Juvenile reductions are not a defining quality of maturity..or intelligence.
silly adults.
What I'm saying is that you have shown a shocking level of ignorance. The fact of someone's age does not certainly imply a level of maturity, but it's usually pretty close. I was a know-it-all jerk when I was 16 too... so no worries there. (I'm sure some people think I'm still one now... haha) The thing is that I look back on myself then when I behaved much as you are behaving now and I'm embarrassed. I'm sure you're a smart guy, I was too, and I thought just as you do that my intelligence was so much higher then everyone else's that it eclipsed their vastly larger store of knowledge. I'll give you a hint: it doesn't.
Most of what you have said is just crap generalities that don't even attempt to argue specific points. If you want me to rebut you step by step I will do so as long as you clearly spell out all the points that you are trying to make. Number them if possible.
Stop acting like a little kid. Your previous posts are a mess of generalizations and nonsensical statements. If you want to make some specific assertions, spell them out and I will respond to them.
Sorry but Fundamental Islam is by far and a way the biggest threat the world has ever known. It is also a given fact that the majority of ?peaceful? Muslim?s will not stand against the radicals but rather with them when push comes to shove.
Do yourself a big favor and go here and either buy or watch this movie and you will be enlightened I assure you;
Obsession
One more thing I heard today and found interesting which is that there are a growing number that now believe the Anti-Christ is not a person at all it is Fundamental Islam.
On OUR SOIL.
But they can do whatever the hell they want on theres. I just wish people would recognize the problem instead of rationalizing this bulls**t.
IT isn't that hard to comprehend, I'm honestly shocked at the how people view the society.
And I have FAR more experience with Islamic radicalism than any of you.
I have 3 Iranian aunts and have been personally affected by islamic radicalism (or my family at least).
you guys have yet to approach the following facts:
ISlamic theocracies and their grasp on society - state run media, schools, and culture...all guided under Islam.
DO YOU DENY?
These 1.4 billion muslims have to live somewhere ya know, and most don't live in the West.
What you wrote here is nonsensical. I mean, it's not a coherent sentence in English. What are you trying to claim?
Hayabusa Rider
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OK, let's pretend you have hit on things as they are. BTW, I don't believe you have, but as a thought experiment what is your solution to your posited problem?
yllus
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The issue with Middle Eastern countries being cesspits isn't a problem with Islam, it's a problem with tribalism.
However, I do think that Islam is amongst the worst religions in terms of friendliness to critical thought and free speech. It lacks the wiggle room of interpretation that allows other religions to adapt with the times.
However, I do think that Islam is amongst the worst religions in terms of friendliness to critical thought and free speech. It lacks the wiggle room of interpretation that allows other religions to adapt with the times.
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