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fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: eskimospy
So this seems to have turned into a xenophobe/quasi illiterate/crazy person thread.

that's the b.s

xenophobe, intolerance, bigotry, blah blah.

can't approach the problem so you mask it with partisan western free-spirited everybody-has-a-heart craziness.

facts are facts. you can sugar-coat them to your hearts content, but they will always and continue to be FACTS.

Stop being an idiot. I keep asking you what the problem is, keep asking you to enumerate the points you're trying to make, and you hide... hide... hide. If you have "FACTS", feel free to list them and tell me what you think they mean. Then more likely then not I'll go ahead and demolish you.
 

Noobtastic

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: eskimospy
So this seems to have turned into a xenophobe/quasi illiterate/crazy person thread.

that's the b.s

xenophobe, intolerance, bigotry, blah blah.

can't approach the problem so you mask it with partisan western free-spirited everybody-has-a-heart craziness.

facts are facts. you can sugar-coat them to your hearts content, but they will always and continue to be FACTS.

Stop being an idiot. I keep asking you what the problem is, keep asking you to enumerate the points you're trying to make, and you hide... hide... hide. If you have "FACTS", feel free to list them and tell me what you think they mean. Then more likely then not I'll go ahead and demolish you.

oh blow me.

half this thread consists personal attacks, and the rest is just a bunch of silly rants trying to rationalize islamic looniness with exaggerated christian craziness.

internet debate really is a joke.

 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: eskimospy
So this seems to have turned into a xenophobe/quasi illiterate/crazy person thread.

that's the b.s

xenophobe, intolerance, bigotry, blah blah.

can't approach the problem so you mask it with partisan western free-spirited everybody-has-a-heart craziness.

facts are facts. you can sugar-coat them to your hearts content, but they will always and continue to be FACTS.

Stop being an idiot. I keep asking you what the problem is, keep asking you to enumerate the points you're trying to make, and you hide... hide... hide. If you have "FACTS", feel free to list them and tell me what you think they mean. Then more likely then not I'll go ahead and demolish you.

oh blow me.

half this thread consists personal attacks, and the rest is just a bunch of silly rants trying to rationalize islamic looniness with exaggerated christian craziness.

internet debate really is a joke.

Wow, do you have any more amazing and unique insights to tell the world about? hahahaha.

I'm pretty sure you aren't willing to put down what you're trying to argue into a coherant sentence because you probably don't even know exactly what you're arguing. You've just got some sort of vague anti-islam thing going.

I bet you will continue to refuse to say exactly what point you're trying to make because you probably know that if you do, you'll lose.
 

Noobtastic

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: eskimospy
So this seems to have turned into a xenophobe/quasi illiterate/crazy person thread.

that's the b.s

xenophobe, intolerance, bigotry, blah blah.

can't approach the problem so you mask it with partisan western free-spirited everybody-has-a-heart craziness.

facts are facts. you can sugar-coat them to your hearts content, but they will always and continue to be FACTS.

Stop being an idiot. I keep asking you what the problem is, keep asking you to enumerate the points you're trying to make, and you hide... hide... hide. If you have "FACTS", feel free to list them and tell me what you think they mean. Then more likely then not I'll go ahead and demolish you.

oh blow me.

half this thread consists personal attacks, and the rest is just a bunch of silly rants trying to rationalize islamic looniness with exaggerated christian craziness.

internet debate really is a joke.

Wow, do you have any more amazing and unique insights to tell the world about? hahahaha.

I'm pretty sure you aren't willing to put down what you're trying to argue into a coherant sentence because you probably don't even know exactly what you're arguing. You've just got some sort of vague anti-islam thing going.

I bet you will continue to refuse to say exactly what point you're trying to make because you probably know that if you do, you'll lose.

bleh.
 

Socio

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Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: DarkThinker
Originally posted by: Socio
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The fact is Muslims in the US are not all peace love and joy to believe they are is to live in complete denial.

Dude get over your own denials first...seriously get some help, perhaps go outside take a walk in the park, smell the roses...something...and if you happen to pass by a Muslim, say something polite, maybe a Hello or something, I promise you no one will pick up an AK-47 and spray your ass in return!
But in case some Muslim does so, then your paranoia's would have been confirmed beyond any reasonable doubt...I am telling you it would be a Win - Win scenario for everyone :)

Typical.

Can't counter FACTS, so you resort to personal attacks.

It happens a lot but I look at it this way, as soon as they stop countering my posts and attacking, it just means my stance on the subject is unquestionably right.
 

Obsoleet

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Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: babylon5
Religion = mass fantasy for weak minded people.

A common generalization.

Religion isn't the problem, Islam is the problem.


Everyone has a religion.

WTF. What a fear monger.
I hope you have your gun and you're ready to go fight your war on Islam then.
 

DarkThinker

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Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: DarkThinker
Originally posted by: Socio
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The fact is Muslims in the US are not all peace love and joy to believe they are is to live in complete denial.

Dude get over your own denials first...seriously get some help, perhaps go outside take a walk in the park, smell the roses...something...and if you happen to pass by a Muslim, say something polite, maybe a Hello or something, I promise you no one will pick up an AK-47 and spray your ass in return!
But in case some Muslim does so, then your paranoia's would have been confirmed beyond any reasonable doubt...I am telling you it would be a Win - Win scenario for everyone :)

Typical.

Can't counter FACTS, so you resort to personal attacks.

"personal attacks"? What "personal attacks"? If I were to "personal attack" you or him my post would have no bounds. No, it wasn't a "personal attack" it was joke, lighten the fvck up for once and address your phobias like a rational person would for once in your life instead of trying to get people into your twisted state of mind.

Originally posted by: Obsoleet
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: babylon5
Religion = mass fantasy for weak minded people.

A common generalization.

Religion isn't the problem, Islam is the problem.


Everyone has a religion.

WTF. What a fear monger.
I hope you have your gun and you're ready to go fight your war on Islam then.

Dude this kid can't do sht and wouldn't dare do sht. He is just the type that would get the people riled up about something and then sends them on their way while he cheers from a distance.
I know very well his ulterior motives just as others do.
 

lyssword

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Originally posted by: supesman
Do you know how many people were killed during the Spanish Inquisition? In the thousands, you don't consider that as fundamentalist Christianity?

Yeah, nine hundred years ago. While we are at it lets compare how many people Vikings killed.
 

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
What a derailed and stupid topic this has become.

As for Islam and Muslims. It?s my feelings that the group as a whole is responsible for removing its radical elements. Failure to do so, on our soil, would require us to pressure them to do so.

You do realise that that would be as stupid as asking the western world to remove GW stationed troops? How the FUCK would the overwhelming majority of Americans that want it done alonge with a shitload of others do that?

Oh, so you are personally responsible for at least tenths of thousands of deaths, if we want to play your game you are, personally, just like bullshit joe muslim is responsible for everything every other muslim does, right.

You are insane, pathetic and insane.

I really do despise you ad everything you stand for and i say that as the Commanding officer of the SAS troops in Afghanistan, i wish you would just get dead because you and those like you are pathetic excuses for human beings.

Are you really the commanding officer of all SAS troops in Afghanistan?? I didn't think the British military promoted creationists that high.

In any case, you're right. Asking all Muslims to take responsibility for extremists is ridiculous. The same applies to Christian fundamentalists. But I don't want to hear aMuslim tell me that an extremist isn't a true Muslim. That's like saying Jerry Falwell isn't a true Christian, when he is one of the leaders of Christianity in America. Shariah Law isn't based on nothing. It's based on the Quran.
 

Obsoleet

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Originally posted by: DarkThinker
Dude this kid can't do sht and wouldn't dare do sht. He is just the type that would get the people riled up about something and then sends them on their way while he cheers from a distance.
I know very well his ulterior motives just as others do.

I made many Saudi friends when I was at the university, and they'd seriously hurt this child for misrepresenting their religion with such ferocity.

Yes, they are devout people (most Muslims). Yes, they would take this garbage extremely offensely because it's a complete misunderstanding of the reasons why Islam has radical elements opposing us.

It is people like this, that radicalize normal Muslims. They are good pairs for each other, if he's man enough to meet them on the field of battle in Bush's war.

Noobtastic- I'd recommend you join your war on Islam, or you get an education. You might be able to be saved through education, but I have little hope.
 

Obsoleet

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
In any case, you're right. Asking all Muslims to take responsibility for extremists is ridiculous. The same applies to Christian fundamentalists. But I don't want to hear aMuslim tell me that an extremist isn't a true Muslim. That's like saying Jerry Falwell isn't a true Christian, when he is one of the leaders of Christianity in America. Shariah Law isn't based on nothing. It's based on the Quran.

They aren't, you can't be a Christian and support this war. It's unjust and aggressive war. Anyone misusing the bible to support this war is definitely a malevolent or intellectually deficient person.

"Leaders" of Christianity? The only leader in Christianity I knew of was Jesus. Falwell is a middle man trying to get his share of money and fame, a windbag no different than Rush Limbaugh. What you speak of are puppets and those who wish to control society for their own wishes. As far as the Quran, I'll let the Muslims answer that, I don't think anyone here besides Muslim, or a middle eastern doctoral scholar is qualified to answer questions with any accuracy on such a distant place and topic.

Everyone post-9/11 became an instant expert on the Muslim religion, now everyone is quoting scripture like they have the faintest clue about the land, culture or religion.

I'm certainly not going to listen to a partisan like Falwell on the matter.
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Forget the fact that almost every country with a muslim majority revolves around fundamentalism...those western muslims compensate!

Take a gander at Europe, buddy. Take a gander at Asia, buddy.

Europe? There are no Islamic countries in Europe...

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Fundi Christianity PALES in COMPARISON to fundi Islam.

Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, KKK, etc.

You have good Craig, better than Europe and Asia. Be grateful that the only s**t you have to deal with his silly protests and creationism vs. evolution. And you can respond with any opinion you want.

Again, I don't see why you're including Europe in that - have you ever been there? Countries like Britain and France had bills of rights guarenteeing free speech long before the USA.
 

Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: eskimospy
So this seems to have turned into a xenophobe/quasi illiterate/crazy person thread.

that's the b.s

xenophobe, intolerance, bigotry, blah blah.

can't approach the problem so you mask it with partisan western free-spirited everybody-has-a-heart craziness.

facts are facts. you can sugar-coat them to your hearts content, but they will always and continue to be FACTS.

Stop being an idiot. I keep asking you what the problem is, keep asking you to enumerate the points you're trying to make, and you hide... hide... hide. If you have "FACTS", feel free to list them and tell me what you think they mean. Then more likely then not I'll go ahead and demolish you.

oh blow me.

half this thread consists personal attacks, and the rest is just a bunch of silly rants trying to rationalize islamic looniness with exaggerated christian craziness.

internet debate really is a joke.

And you're always so eager to be at the front of it all.
 

Noobtastic

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Europe? There are no Islamic countries in Europe...

ENGLAND, SWEDEN, NETHERLAND.

All the muslim refugees coming from Iraq and Lebanon CANNOT ASSIMILATE.

Keep up with me here.

Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, KKK, etc.

IRRELEVANT.


Islam has FAILED TO EVOLVE.


 

Noobtastic

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How can you people defend these Islamic theocracies?

Seriously this mind-blowingly absurd.

HOW CAN PEOPLE BE THIS STUPID?




 

Obsoleet

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Originally posted by: Noobtastic
How can you people defend these Islamic theocracies?

Seriously this mind-blowingly absurd.

HOW CAN PEOPLE BE THIS STUPID?

Young one, it's called Live and Let Live.
We have enough people endorsing your views, risking nuclear holocaust in a global confrontation.

Thanks, but no thanks.
/thread
 

Noobtastic

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Originally posted by: Obsoleet
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
How can you people defend these Islamic theocracies?

Seriously this mind-blowingly absurd.

HOW CAN PEOPLE BE THIS STUPID?

Young one, it's called Live and Let Live.
We have enough people endorsing your views, risking nuclear holocaust in a global confrontation.

Thanks, but no thanks.
/thread

uh, how is this relevant?

 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Europe? There are no Islamic countries in Europe...

ENGLAND, SWEDEN, NETHERLAND.

All the muslim refugees coming from Iraq and Lebanon CANNOT ASSIMILATE.

Keep up with me here.

Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, KKK, etc.

IRRELEVANT.


Islam has FAILED TO EVOLVE.

None of those three countries are Islamic.

The "refugees cannot assimilate" argument is one that has been used countless times throughout history, it is false.
 

Noobtastic

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None of those three countries are Islamic.

Did I say that?


The "refugees cannot assimilate" argument is one that has been used countless times throughout history, it is false.

That is very wrong.

It's a documented fact that muslim population is on the rise, and considering their birthrate, it won't be long.

look at Canada. They're already accomodating their radical laws and appease the craziness. Same deal with England. Providing MONIES to SUPPORT their SECLUDED COMMUNITIES.


Sweden isn't so hot either.


Wake up.
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Europe? There are no Islamic countries in Europe...

ENGLAND, SWEDEN, NETHERLAND.

All the muslim refugees coming from Iraq and Lebanon CANNOT ASSIMILATE.

I'm English. A Lebanese girl is the lead designer where I work - she moved here not long ago, partly to avoid things like getting invaded, but speaks perfect English and is a really fun person to hang around with. I have no idea if she's a muslim or not and I don't really care.

Most immigrants I meet are similarly nice normal people.

How can you people defend these Islamic theocracies?

Seriously this mind-blowingly absurd.

HOW CAN PEOPLE BE THIS STUPID?

I don't think anyone wants to defend Islamic theocracies, meerly the innocent people caught up in them...
 

Noobtastic

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I'm English. A Lebanese girl is the lead designer where I work - she moved here not long ago, partly to avoid things like getting invaded, but speaks perfect English and is a really fun person to hang around with. I have no idea if she's a muslim or not and I don't really care.

Wow, anecdotal evidence ftw!

I'm going by FACTS and STATISTICS.

This stuff can be looked up in 5 seconds.

I'm honestly shocked you guys refuse to recognize this. I'm sure it was some Christian conspiracy you'd be wacking 2 hours ago.

Most immigrants I meet are similarly nice normal people.

Same here. What's your point?


How can you people defend these Islamic theocracies?

Seriously this mind-blowingly absurd.

I don't think anyone wants to defend Islamic theocracies, meerly the innocent people caught up in them...

Oh right, the innocent argument.

The society isn't innocent. the culture isn't innocent. the people. are not. innocent.

try walking into a heavily muslim community and see how awesome it is.

there's been word of honor killings in England, and many powerful lobby groups have already set in motion to accommodate the rules and laws of muslim society for this people. they are imposing their radical society on the INNOCENT.

but go ahead, be deluded.

i'll chill here.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
In any case, you're right. Asking all Muslims to take responsibility for extremists is ridiculous. The same applies to Christian fundamentalists.

BS. Christians and Muslims alike should be pressured to condemn those who support violence to spread Supremacy of their religion. Why you stand against persecuting religious violence is beyond comprehension. I find your position to be on the side of the extremists, if not consequently providing cover for them.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Noobtastic
None of those three countries are Islamic.

Did I say that?


Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Europe? There are no Islamic countries in Europe...

ENGLAND, SWEDEN, NETHERLAND.



The "refugees cannot assimilate" argument is one that has been used countless times throughout history, it is false.

That is very wrong.

It's a documented fact that muslim population is on the rise, and considering their birthrate, it won't be long.

look at Canada. They're already accomodating their radical laws and appease the craziness. Same deal with England. Providing MONIES to SUPPORT their SECLUDED COMMUNITIES.

Sweden isn't so hot either.

Wake up.

So yes, you did say that. If you state 3 countries in response to someone saying there are no islamic countries in Europe, that's what you mean if you're speaking english.

The fact that populations are on the rise has absolutely nothing to do if they will assimilate or not. In addition, assimilate does not mean that they can have no effect whatsoever on the country that they are in, it just means that they will adopt the culture at large.

The arguments you are trying to use here are the same ones frequently used by nativists in the US against Mexicans, and they are just as stupid. If you are interested I can show you some articles that discuss how minorities (particularly somewhat ostracized minorities) adopt to new cultures after they immigrate. Long story short: The people themselves who immigrate will keep their identity for the most part, their children will not.

My opinions are based on real research into these sorts of subjects, yours appear to be based on forwarded chain emails.

EDIT: I suck at quotes.
 

supesman

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Originally posted by: lyssword
Originally posted by: supesman
Do you know how many people were killed during the Spanish Inquisition? In the thousands, you don't consider that as fundamentalist Christianity?

Yeah, nine hundred years ago. While we are at it lets compare how many people Vikings killed.

Read history dumbass, the inquisition was going on well into the 1800s.

And while the christians were in their dark ages, muslims were busying themselves to the sciences, mathematics, medicine, etc. You can't overlook their contributions because of a few nutjobs who take everyword literally.