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The religion of peace...

Survey says you should stop phearing teh Muzlims, and start educating yourself. There are millions of Muslims in our country, and they live by and large in total peace amongst us.
 
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Survey says you should stop phearing teh Muzlims, and start educating yourself. There are millions of Muslims in our country, and they live by and large in total peace amongst us.
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Then cased closed.


Forget the fact that almost every country with a muslim majority revolves around fundamentalism...those western muslims compensate!

Take a gander at Europe, buddy. Take a gander at Asia, buddy.


Muslims, as a whole, are FAR from peaceful. Their society and culture is dominated by racism, intolerance, bigotry, and radicalism.


I don't HATE or FEAR muslims. But the idea that radicals are just a minority is FALSE.

Islamic terrorists are the minority. Sympathizers/Apathetics are the majority. Then you have the various seculars who are scattered throughout the world...

 
Turn off the Glenn Beck, and get real.

How many Western/non-Muslim people have been killed by Radical Islam over the past 500 years or so?
 
Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, Witch Trials. The Left Behind series. Will the atrocities never end?
 
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Turn off the Glenn Beck, and get real.

How many Western/non-Muslim people have been killed by Radical Islam over the past 500 years or so?
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uhh...is that how you weigh radical islam? By murder?

According to the in@rweb, abut 3,000 this month...but that's documented. you have to consider honor killings, beheadings, and various other methods of undisclosed executions/imprisonments.

then you got the oppression, which exists in nearly every Islamic country. Non-muslims are often charged additional taxes for their rivaling ethnicity, people who convert out of islam are often killed/deported, and for the most part islamic law dominates the society and judicial system. all this at the behest of state governments...however most of the time they just turn a blind eye.

So yeah. You apply western ideals and standards to countries incompatible.


Simplified: It's purely barbarism, and those who deny are just deluding themselves.
 
Originally posted by: babylon5
Religion = mass fantasy for weak minded people.
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Please troll elsewhere. I am more than certain that within just a few posts we could easily dig out completely unfactual beliefs that you hold strongly solely because other people told you to believe them.


Originally posted by: Noobtastic
A common generalization.

Religion isn't the problem, Islam is the problem.


Everyone has a religion.
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Okay then, what makes Islam so much worse than other religions?
 
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
A common generalization.

Religion isn't the problem, Jews are the problem.
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Fixed.

Sieg heil.

Look, if you were right, we've already lost, since nobody could win a war against 1.5 billion psychopaths.
 
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
A common generalization.

Religion isn't the problem, Jews are the problem.
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Fixed.

Sieg heil.

Look, if you were right, we've already lost, since nobody could win a war against 1.5 billion psychopaths.
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I agree, this 16 year old Nazi doesn't know anything about anything and blames Islam for everything.

If Muslims are the problem, what would be the final solution?
 
Geez, you guys are full of fallacies aren't ya?

Well, no matter. I've done my part and if you want to continue the illusion that all if love and peace in the muslim world so be it.

Just don't cry when it's us.

 
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
A common generalization.

Religion isn't the problem, Jews are the problem.
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Fixed.

Sieg heil.

Look, if you were right, we've already lost, since nobody could win a war against 1.5 billion psychopaths.
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I agree, this 16 year old Nazi doesn't know anything about anything and blames Islam for everything.

If Muslims are the problem, what would be the final solution?
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Agreed. I can't help but see your age shine in your posts Noob, and your Muslim hate is getting old. Spew your trash elsewhere.
 
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Geez, you guys are full of fallacies aren't ya?

Well, no matter. I've done my part and if you want to continue the illusion that all if love and peace in the muslim world so be it.

Just don't cry when it's us.
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Wow, straw-man FTL. Nobody here is going to deny that there's freaking nutjobs out there in any race/religion. It's just that there's no statistical or factual evidence showing Islam to be any more of a threat than anything else. Most people just want to live their own lives and take care of their families. If there was a unifying will to destroy other people, it would have showed by now. Btw, there were FAR more Muslim-led protests AGAINST the actions of 9/11 than SUPPORTING it.
 
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Geez, you guys are full of fallacies aren't ya?

Well, no matter. I've done my part and if you want to continue the illusion that all if love and peace in the muslim world so be it.

Just don't cry when it's us.
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Who said it's "all love and peace" in the Muslim world? We merely assert that a minority of fanatics does not negate the peaceful ways of hundreds of millions of followers of the same religion. Is Catholicism the religion of molestation?

Here's a project for you. Go to a mosque and have a sit down conversation. Say "hi, i have some serious misconceptions about your religion. would you care to talk to me about them?" I'm mostly sure they won't kill you. But bring a friend.
 
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Geez, you guys are full of fallacies aren't ya?

Well, no matter. I've done my part and if you want to continue the illusion that all if love and peace in the muslim world so be it.

Just don't cry when it's us.
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Who said it's "all love and peace" in the Muslim world? We merely assert that a minority of fanatics does not negate the peaceful ways of hundreds of millions of followers of the same religion. Is Catholicism the religion of molestation?

Here's a project for you. Go to a mosque and have a sit down conversation. Say "hi, i have some serious misconceptions about your religion. would you care to talk to me about them?" I'm mostly sure they won't kill you. But bring a friend.
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:laugh:
 
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Geez, you guys are full of fallacies aren't ya?

Well, no matter. I've done my part and if you want to continue the illusion that all if love and peace in the muslim world so be it.

Just don't cry when it's us.
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So what is your final solution? Kill them all since they are all a threat or what?

I mean, it's not like i know anything about the situation at all.
 
Wow, straw-man FTL.
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Cry.

Nobody here is going to deny that there's freaking nutjobs out there in any race/religion.
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That IS NOT THE DEBATE.

I'm not talking about nutjobs. These people are NOT nutjobs. THE COUNTRIES ARE NUTJOBS.

Look at Iran. Look at Saudi Arabia. Look at UAE. Look at Syria. Look at Egypt. Look at Indonesia. Look at Palastine.


These countries account for the majority of muslims, and they are all possess state-sanctioned islamic law.

It's just that there's no statistical or factual evidence showing Islam to be any more of a threat than anything else.
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Bulls**t. Open your EYES.

How come the western world can poke fun at Christianity, and no bombs go off...but when someone publishes a simple picture illustrating *gasp* Mohumed, the entire muslim world starts screaming bloody murder. Leaders of the muslim world scream bloody murder.

Take a vacation to Syria, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, or Iran.

See how great Islam is there.

Most people just want to live their own lives and take care of their families.
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I'm not debating this.

If there was a unifying will to destroy other people
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You are applying absolutes.

it would have showed by now. Btw, there were FAR more Muslim-led protests AGAINST the actions of 9/11 than SUPPORTING it.
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Oh brother this is ridiculous.
 
Originally posted by: Noobtastic

Oh brother I am ridiculous.
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^^^ Yes you are.

Let me ask you this :

How many murders are committed annually in our country?

How many of those were committed by Muslims would you say?



 
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Geez, you guys are full of fallacies aren't ya?

Well, no matter. I've done my part and if you want to continue the illusion that all if love and peace in the muslim world so be it.

Just don't cry when it's us.
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Who said it's "all love and peace" in the Muslim world? We merely assert that a minority of fanatics does not negate the peaceful ways of hundreds of millions of followers of the same religion. Is Catholicism the religion of molestation?

Here's a project for you. Go to a mosque and have a sit down conversation. Say "hi, i have some serious misconceptions about your religion. would you care to talk to me about them?" I'm mostly sure they won't kill you. But bring a friend.
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Or is Jehovas Witnesses religion the religion of pedophilia hidden because their courts (yeah, they have their own courts of their elders) tell the children to shut up?

IRA, unless you have forgotte about them was a terrorist organisation that killed more than Muslims did at the time, the LTTE was responsible for the overwhelming majority of the worlds terror attacks before Iraq was invaded and they are mostly Hindus, then we have numerous other organisations and governments like the Serbian Milita that was christian and so on.

There is nothing special about Muslim extremism, a few fundamentalists is all it's about and if it hadn't been for one idiot in charge invading a country that was AGAINST Islamic extremism it wouldn't even be a big issue right now.
 
I personally think any casual read of history will show Christian nations engage in far more wars and exploitation than Muslim nations. There are something on the order of 1.4 billion Muslims on earth and 99.999% of them are peaceful. Couple that with the fact that Christians have dominated and exploited Muslim and non Muslim nations for the past 500 years or so has led to many Muslim nations seeking to break away from the oppression by throwing the Christian exploiters out.

The world is still adjusting to the end of European colonialism. And its last vestiges are mainly in Muslim nations. That and the fact the the Muslims nations ended up with most of the oil reserves.

If our mainly Christian nation is so peaceful, what the hell are we doing in Iraq? What we we doing in VietNam which was a non Muslim country.
 
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Survey says you should stop phearing teh Muzlims, and start educating yourself. There are millions of Muslims in our country, and they live by and large in total peace amongst us.
Click to expand...

Then cased closed.


Forget the fact that almost every country with a muslim majority revolves around fundamentalism...those western muslims compensate!

Take a gander at Europe, buddy. Take a gander at Asia, buddy.


Muslims, as a whole, are FAR from peaceful. Their society and culture is dominated by racism, intolerance, bigotry, and radicalism.


I don't HATE or FEAR muslims. But the idea that radicals are just a minority is FALSE.

Islamic terrorists are the minority. Sympathizers/Apathetics are the majority. Then you have the various seculars who are scattered throughout the world...
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You realize that by definition radical muslims have to be a minority right?

You strike me as someone who has never set foot outside of this country, or at least certainly has never set foot in a country with a Muslim majority. (or on the off chance that you have, gone outside of the tourist area)

Go do that and educate yourself. Trust me, you'll thank me later.
 
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Geez, you guys are full of fallacies aren't ya?

Well, no matter. I've done my part and if you want to continue the illusion that all if love and peace in the muslim world so be it.

Just don't cry when it's us.
Click to expand...

Who said it's "all love and peace" in the Muslim world? We merely assert that a minority of fanatics does not negate the peaceful ways of hundreds of millions of followers of the same religion. Is Catholicism the religion of molestation?

Here's a project for you. Go to a mosque and have a sit down conversation. Say "hi, i have some serious misconceptions about your religion. would you care to talk to me about them?" I'm mostly sure they won't kill you. But bring a friend.
Click to expand...

Or is Jehovas Witnesses religion the religion of pedophilia hidden because their courts (yeah, they have their own courts of their elders) tell the children to shut up?

IRA, unless you have forgotte about them was a terrorist organisation that killed more than Muslims did at the time, the LTTE was responsible for the overwhelming majority of the worlds terror attacks before Iraq was invaded and they are mostly Hindus, then we have numerous other organisations and governments like the Serbian Milita that was christian and so on.

There is nothing special about Muslim extremism, a few fundamentalists is all it's about and if it hadn't been for one idiot in charge invading a country that was AGAINST Islamic extremism it wouldn't even be a big issue right now.
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This is very wrong.

You're comapring violent radicalism to a radical society.


LOOK AT SAUDI ARABIA. LOOK AT IRAN. LOOK AT SYRIA. LOOK AT EGYPT. LOOK AT INDONESIA.

These are countries dominated by islamic radical law. Citizens are conditioned at day 1 to follow islam in the state-run schools. Media is dominated by Islam.

This IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.

 
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