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The Pill
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Grasshopper27
Banned
I've got the Queen, does that mean we should be running this place? 😉
Grasshopper
lol, thats just classic Amanda. 😀 As for me, I take orthotricyclen, and I love it. Clearer skin and regular cycles are the winning reasons for me, but the whole not getting pregnant part doesn't hurt too. 😉 It may not be for everyone, but for me, its definitely the best choice.
And obviously, if you are not in a long term relationship, or just getting laid, use a friggin condom. AIDS and other STD's are bad enough, but even worse are all the unwanted children in the world that are already here. Don't add to that problem. <edit> this part, obviously is not for grasshopper, or anyone in a long term relationship. 😉
Hey Storm, here's what kicks my ire in, regarding this subject. It goes back to abortion topics. I've had not only women, but men get in my face about not being sympathetic to women contemplating an abortion, because I'll never have to face that decision due to my sex. Now I see that same attitude they're griping about in this topic. Just foist the birth control off on women, since they're the ones who get pregnant. Seems like a pimpin' rapper type attitude about not wanting to be bothered it.
Another topic that comes to mind is the single mothers sucking up welfare dollars because the father(s) of her kids is nowhere to be found, and for damn sure couldn't be bothered with birth control anyway. She just "couldn't help" getting pregnant! In the same vein are the topics about young parents that "have" to put their babies in day care, because they need two incomes to get by. They "couldn't help" getting pregnant before getting on their feet, or they were basically forced to get married, because she got pregnant "accidently".
The first posts to this topic just drove home the point that many men do expect women to carry the burden. It's just such an effort to wear that condom. Worse yet is the casual concern about getting pregnant! Dolts! :frown:
I still can't believe that intelligent members of this board can't find any other methods for sexual gratification other than coitus. We don't need an RN around here, we need Dr. Ruth!
Another topic that comes to mind is the single mothers sucking up welfare dollars because the father(s) of her kids is nowhere to be found, and for damn sure couldn't be bothered with birth control anyway. She just "couldn't help" getting pregnant! In the same vein are the topics about young parents that "have" to put their babies in day care, because they need two incomes to get by. They "couldn't help" getting pregnant before getting on their feet, or they were basically forced to get married, because she got pregnant "accidently".
The first posts to this topic just drove home the point that many men do expect women to carry the burden. It's just such an effort to wear that condom. Worse yet is the casual concern about getting pregnant! Dolts! :frown:
I still can't believe that intelligent members of this board can't find any other methods for sexual gratification other than coitus. We don't need an RN around here, we need Dr. Ruth!
Grasshopper27
Banned
I don't see anyone here casual about the risks of getting pregeant...
Oh, there are plenty... We both like oral sex very much, as well as mutual, ahh, stimulation... 😉
But "conventional" sex is still the best most of the time, we were built to have sex that way, it is just very comforting for both people.
Rest assured we're not going to give up intercourse just cause you think it is evil. 😀
Grasshopper
Grasshopper27
Banned
Well, yes... but that doesn't mean we're casual about it...
There is such a thing as keeping track of your period and knowing the days when you're less likely to get pregant. It isn't perfect, but it is still pretty good if you're careful.
Grasshopper
GTaudiophile
Lifer
Does Thumper mind having all this posted?
Grasshopper27
Banned
You're about the 20th person to ask. 🙂
She doesn't know, and she isn't going to know. 😀
Grasshopper
thomsbrain
Lifer
teh pill is teh good. it can help a lot with cramps and things, and it makes many women's periods lighter. that said, it can also cause cramps in other women, and cause bad dreams and all kinds of weird things. plus some girls just don't feel right messing with their body like that. but all the girls i've ever been involved with took it and thought the benefits outweighed the negatives.
You hope that she doesnt find out but you are so utterly dead if she does... Its going to happen sooner or later...
I still can't believe that intelligent members of this board can't find any other methods for sexual gratification other than coitus. We don't need an RN around here, we need Dr. Ruth!
Theres coitus, oral sex, and masturbation. To some people oral sex and masturbation just arent the same as coitus.
"Dang luvly you're always causing a ruckus . Can you really show many women with men that treat them like princesses and would do the world for them based on your criteria? It might be just me but based on all your criteria except the princess on a pedestal aspect the guy you're looking for would be the perfect guy and every woman would want him."
Hey, what now, Storm? LOL! I'm just messing with you.
Honestly, my use of the word "many" was an exaggeration. I meant "many" because you would expect fewer than that number.
I'm sure most, but not all, women want that Mr. Perfect. There are a good number of women who like to settle for Mr. Jerk. I almost fell for it myself. What I did learn from that mistake was never to fall for it again. And realistically there's no Mr. Perfect, but there is Mr. Close to Perfect. And that's a man who naturally does these things. I'm not about to try to change a man. I learned long time ago that I couldn't do that. He was set on his ways.
"Are you telling us you have everything it takes to beat out all the other women to get this man? Now take into account the princess on a pedestal aspect and now you have some guy that Im not sure even exists... Mathematically there should be a percentage of guys like that but actually finding Mr. Right... thats a lot more difficult."
Not all the other women, but most. I am confident enough to believe that I can achieve what I set myself to. Again, I look at those who came before me, some sold themselves short, some set a standard and never compromised, so they got what they wanted. I want to be amongst the latter statistic.
"Even then it certainly sounds unrealistic. But if you do meet this guy be sure to let everyone I know I would like to meet him more out of curiosity than anything."
LOL! A lot of people tell me that even in real life. I must be a unique person. 😱 😀 Don't worry, when I'm sure of myself, I will not hesitate to invite you all, even those of you who thought I couldn't achieve my goal, to the ceremony. 😉 Maybe it'll make news and you can all get to watch. 😀
"Thats a brash statement... It sounds like you rather have men take a risk of using a birthcontrol pill rather than yourself. Doesn't this contradict your earlier statement that you said earlier about guys that are too lazy to use a condom and screw them? Or do you believe in the future if the both of you agree to have intercourse with penetration to both use the pill to minimize the chance of pregnancy?"
Well, Grasshopper got what I meant, though I'm not frustrated (learned not to be in this regard). The inherent hypocrisy gets to me. And unlike other women, I will not compromise in something of this nature if it means the guy gets no responsibility at all. I was basically being sarcastic there.
I don't go through the trouble of saying what role I would play because I already have my standard measured to what I would expect of the other party. That's really why I state what I expect of him without saying what I have to offer. But trust me, in this matter, he's got to play his own role. He will not under any conditions put all of that responsibility on me. Not only would he be dumped, he would have the biggest whacking of his life. Respect and consideration are huge factors in any relationships I have with anyone.
And don't worry . . . if I shouldn't find "Mr. Right", I'm prepared to be like some women who are still single, have no kids and have companions at their disposals. :Q
By the way, I doubt that would happen. I think I've found a potential Mr. Right. I'm still checking him out to be sure. But he's wonderful, not perfect but close enough, so far. 😉
Hey, what now, Storm? LOL! I'm just messing with you.
Honestly, my use of the word "many" was an exaggeration. I meant "many" because you would expect fewer than that number.
I'm sure most, but not all, women want that Mr. Perfect. There are a good number of women who like to settle for Mr. Jerk. I almost fell for it myself. What I did learn from that mistake was never to fall for it again. And realistically there's no Mr. Perfect, but there is Mr. Close to Perfect. And that's a man who naturally does these things. I'm not about to try to change a man. I learned long time ago that I couldn't do that. He was set on his ways.
"Are you telling us you have everything it takes to beat out all the other women to get this man? Now take into account the princess on a pedestal aspect and now you have some guy that Im not sure even exists... Mathematically there should be a percentage of guys like that but actually finding Mr. Right... thats a lot more difficult."
Not all the other women, but most. I am confident enough to believe that I can achieve what I set myself to. Again, I look at those who came before me, some sold themselves short, some set a standard and never compromised, so they got what they wanted. I want to be amongst the latter statistic.
"Even then it certainly sounds unrealistic. But if you do meet this guy be sure to let everyone I know I would like to meet him more out of curiosity than anything."
LOL! A lot of people tell me that even in real life. I must be a unique person. 😱 😀 Don't worry, when I'm sure of myself, I will not hesitate to invite you all, even those of you who thought I couldn't achieve my goal, to the ceremony. 😉 Maybe it'll make news and you can all get to watch. 😀
"Thats a brash statement... It sounds like you rather have men take a risk of using a birthcontrol pill rather than yourself. Doesn't this contradict your earlier statement that you said earlier about guys that are too lazy to use a condom and screw them? Or do you believe in the future if the both of you agree to have intercourse with penetration to both use the pill to minimize the chance of pregnancy?"
Well, Grasshopper got what I meant, though I'm not frustrated (learned not to be in this regard). The inherent hypocrisy gets to me. And unlike other women, I will not compromise in something of this nature if it means the guy gets no responsibility at all. I was basically being sarcastic there.
I don't go through the trouble of saying what role I would play because I already have my standard measured to what I would expect of the other party. That's really why I state what I expect of him without saying what I have to offer. But trust me, in this matter, he's got to play his own role. He will not under any conditions put all of that responsibility on me. Not only would he be dumped, he would have the biggest whacking of his life. Respect and consideration are huge factors in any relationships I have with anyone.
And don't worry . . . if I shouldn't find "Mr. Right", I'm prepared to be like some women who are still single, have no kids and have companions at their disposals. :Q
By the way, I doubt that would happen. I think I've found a potential Mr. Right. I'm still checking him out to be sure. But he's wonderful, not perfect but close enough, so far. 😉
Grasshopper27
Banned
Naa, she isn't a computer person, she wouldn't find a place like this, much less go searching for it...
There is also anal sex, but that doesn't do it for me... 😉
Grasshopper
"Theres coitus, oral sex, and masturbation. To some people oral sex and masturbation just arent the same as coitus."
Seems to me, if you:
In this topic alone, I've heard:
Seems to me, if you:
- have gotten lazy the past few weeks when it comes to condoms
- both want kids, just not right yet
- have 'we're out' situations
- can't trust pullin out all the time
- are always very lazy with them too..
- find condoms take on less importance...
- choose to not bother
- should insist, but don't
- know neither of us wants to continue to use condoms
- have your condoms in a drawer, or in the other room or basically anywhere but already on your dick
- are too far out of the way to bother getting them
- find it is getting easier and easier to not bother
- willing to have sex sans condom
- are merely keeping track of your period (that's what Catholic families with 12 kids do)
In this topic alone, I've heard:
- The pills made my ex sick
- My fiance tried depo provera first, and bled for three months straight
- it took a few weeks to get used to at first, that it made her a lil nauseated
- all have potential short- and long-term side-effects
- you have to make sure she takes the pill everyday
- cause of death... ...was that she got a blood clot from the BC pills
- my exgfs got pregnant when she was on BC.....twice
- Some females have small weight gain issues
- risk of heart attack/stroke is ~10x greater if you smoke
- Just about ANY drug has potential side effects
- BC pills are designed to change a woman's hormone levels, and have well known (and potentially serious) side-effects like high blood pressure, mood swings, etc...
- She's only forgotten once, and it required almost 2 months to get back on safe schedule
- antibiotics while on the pill, it pretty much makes it useless
- it seemed to make her really pissy sometimes
- If she can handle the side effects of the shot for the first cycle (3 months), then they get significanlty better
- having to take a pill every morning
- remembering to take it with her on trips
- After the abonormal cycles at first the periods stop all together
- pretty much makes it useless if she takes St. John's wort
- or if the dosage isn't matched to her bodyweight
- or if she skips a day
- she is likely to gain weight
- ANY dose CAN wreak havoc with a woman's body
- you really have to wonder about the stress placed in the body when you get a laundry list like that
- Some people's hormones are really out of whack and they gain more
- I have had a couple of relationships disintegrate once my girlfriend went on it
- my gf lost her libido after getting it
- they aren't completely side effect free
- the pill made the poor gf ultra grumpy
- that is only one potential side effect (and not the scariest IMO)
- very small risk of more serious side effects
- It really messed up her system down there though, like she would have a mild period for 2 or 3 weeks straight sometimes
- I wouldn't risk my physical and mental health for his pleasure
- I still have are headaches and a clearer complexion. When I first started it caused my cycle to be a little off
- its bound to have a few side effects
- I had a hard time remembering to take them
- I used to loose my pill pack all the time!
- Maybe men can get to have a taste of their own medicine when pills come out for them. We'll see them with the mood swing and adding the weight.
- I, personally, will not be staying in the pill for more than 10 years....studies have not been thoroughly conducted enough for me to risk long term effects such as certain cancers...
- there has been some speculation as to an association between long tern use of the pill and some cancers
- had a girl friend that turn into a total schizo-zoid when she took the pill
- it can also cause cramps in other women
- cause bad dreams and all kinds of weird things
- some girls just don't feel right messing with their body like that
- One major problem with OCPs is the danger from thromboembolic events (problems with blood clots) in cigarette smokers
"Naa, she isn't a computer person, she wouldn't find a place like this, much less go searching for it..."
Grasshopper, you always say this, but I'm confused. So the lady who posted in that what girl would you like to meet thread and whose nick was Thumper isn't your gf? 😱
Well, be careful. You'll say she'll never find these posts, she isn't a computer person, etc. but the computer and internet is becoming so widespread and accepted. People who would never visit the computer or internet years ago are now blending it with their other activities. So, you never know. Watch what you post would be my motto. But it might just be me again. 😛
Grasshopper, you always say this, but I'm confused. So the lady who posted in that what girl would you like to meet thread and whose nick was Thumper isn't your gf? 😱
Well, be careful. You'll say she'll never find these posts, she isn't a computer person, etc. but the computer and internet is becoming so widespread and accepted. People who would never visit the computer or internet years ago are now blending it with their other activities. So, you never know. Watch what you post would be my motto. But it might just be me again. 😛
Grasshopper27
Banned
No, that isn't her... Trust me, I'd know it if she was here. 🙂
She does have a computer at work, but she wouldn't have time to go surfing there. She doesn't own a computer at home.
I'll have to bribe Anand to delete these old posts some day. 🙂 I find it hard to believe that 20 years from now these words will still exist. 😉
Grasshopper
Grasshopper27
Banned
All very good points...
But when you're with someone you're totally and completely in love with, sex is THAT good... It's like you become one, I can't put it into words that would be understood by someone who hasn't been there before. I'm sorry if you've never felt it before...
Grasshopper
Any woman, who takes the pill simply because her man tells her too, has no brain of her own, and unless she is being beaten into it, I have no pity for her. I don't care how lazy a man is, if I require a condom, and he won't wear one? He ain't getting any, simple enough. And I am sure that is how most women are nowadays, most of us take the pill for our own reasons, not simply because our men are lazy.
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