The Pill

[vi edit]

If she can handle the side effects of the shot for the first cycle (3 months), then they get significanlty better. My fiancee is just a fan of not having to take a pill every morning, or remembering to take it with her on trips, ect.

 

[Spoooon]

Originally posted by: Doodoo
I got my ex on the pill last yr....probably the best thing i ever did. Sure beats pullin out all the time. The pills made my ex sick so the doc said to take em before she went to bed and that helped alot.

Pulling out is not birth control. Semen is present in the "pre-cum," so you can still get pregnant. The best way to go is condom + something else, be it the pill or cervical cap or what have you.

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: Eli<b>Depo seems to have more instances of the more severe side effects... But you have to make sure she takes the pill everyday.. or it can very easily become useless, lol...

Hahaha...

How exactly am I supposed to make sure she takes the pill every day? Go over to her apartment and stand over her shoulder? 😉

That brings up an interesting point however, while I'm honestly not afraid that she would do it, I could see how a woman who wanted to become pregent could simply stop taking the pills without telling her husband, ouch... 🙁

[1]And yes, I agree... Condoms are teh suck. We were always very lazy with them too.. Eventually we got tired of being paranoid month to month.. It's horrible when you're actually like, "Woohoo!" when she starts her cycle. :Q 😛[/quote]

You did that too? 🙂 Condoms are great when you're first starting to have sex with someone, but once you've been involved for a few months, been to the doctor together to get tested for STDs (and found you're both clean, thank god), then condoms take on less importance... 🙁 (well, they shouldn't, but we're human, what do you want?)

Grasshopper

 

[djheater]

Have you considered the IUD?

It's extremely effective.

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: BDawg
Having a dad who's an OB/GYN helps since my wife gets them free.

Umm, your Dad isn't your Wife's OB/GYN, is he?

The side benefit is very regular periods.

No kidding, that would be nice... 🙂

Grasshopper

 

[GTaudiophile]

I think this threads needs more female participation

Since I have no experience on the matter, I'd have to side with BCYL.

 

[djheater]

IUD info

This page responsibly tells the possible negative side effects, the Pill has many as well. IUD's are especially popular in Europe as I understand it.

My wife investigated it but never got it.

I plan on getting one for both daughters after thier first period 😉

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: Ornery
Now I see that so many here are too damn lazy, stupid or selfish to bother with a condom. Better to have their GF suffer through God knows what to her hormones, physical and mental changes of birth control pills. Pretty much disgusts me!

You're making assumptions here, and you know what that means. 🙂

There have been times when it was her choice to not bother, not mine... I'm far too respectful to just make that assumption, but I've brought it up and she's basicly said no.

I suppose I should insist, but oh well... 🙂

Grasshopper

 

[shopbruin]

grasshopper, you have PM

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: djheater
IUD info

This page responsibly tells the possible negative side effects, the Pill has many as well. IUD's are especially popular in Europe as I understand it.

My wife investigated it but never got it.

I plan on getting one for both daughters after thier first period 😉

Didn't know about that one, thanks! 🙂

Grasshopper

 

[Woody06]

I'm a big fan of deprovera. After the abonormal cycles at first the periods stop all together. If youre looking for something long term this is definitly the way to go. Once every three months and forget about it. I got lucky and it was actually my g/f's idea so I didnt have to do any asking.

Damn I miss those days.

 

[Jfur]

Originally posted by: Joemonkey
don't forget, if Thumper gets on antibiotics while on the pill, it pretty much makes it useless!

OR if she takes St. John's wort (with or without realizing it), or if the dosage isn't matched to her bodyweighr, or if she skips a day

Also, she is likely to gain weight

It's too bad there aren't more women on this board to share their experiences...

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: Jfur
OR if she takes St. John's wort (with or without realizing it), or if the dosage isn't matched to her bodyweighr, or if she skips a day

Also, she is likely to gain weight

It's too bad there aren't more women on this board to share their experiences...

St. John's wort? That doesn't sound pretty... what is it?

You mean all pills are not the same? Didn't know that either...

If she gained 10 to 20 pounds, she'd be far more upset about it than I would be. If she gained 50 pounds, I'd want another solution. 😉

Thanks for the insight Jfur, now I'm hoping that the other regular women here post their own insights too, I really would like more women's opinion on this one, it is after a very personal decision for a woman I'm sure, and I respect that. That is partly why I'm trying to gather as much info as I can, cause I want her to know that I respect the seriousness of asking her to do something like this.

Grasshopper

 

[AnitaPeterson]

wow... all that "science" and knee-jerk reactions from many of the men in this thread... phew!

"I would'nt let my girl on the pill"... blah-blah...

Dude, it's NOT your body, and it's NOT you who's geting pregnant.

The pill was one of the things that changed women's lives forever. No longer at the mercy of men.


There are many kinds of pills available, and a doctor can do a series of tests (some of them really complicated) in order to figure out which one is good for each woman. Side effects? Only if the doctor's a moron, and you do something wrong.

The problem about IUD is that it can be very uncomfortable, and some women can have pain from that object being stuck "there".... I wouldn't want to inflict that kind of stress on young girls; especially since you can't figure out in advance if they will be in pain or not. BTW, you realize that you can't install IUDs until the person has lost her virginity, right? Menwhile, some contraceptive pills are also used for keeping hormonal balance (controlling acne, for instance), and they may have nothing to do with the fact that the takers have begun their sex life or not.

 

[Evadman]

An old GF of mine was on the pill. Not because of the sexual side, but because her doctor had her take it to become "regular" in her cycle.

 

[Jfur]

Originally posted by: grasshopper26

Originally posted by: Jfur
OR if she takes St. John's wort (with or without realizing it), or if the dosage isn't matched to her bodyweighr, or if she skips a day

Also, she is likely to gain weight

It's too bad there aren't more women on this board to share their experiences...

St. John's wort? That doesn't sound pretty... what is it?

You mean all pills are not the same? Didn't know that either...

If she gained 10 to 20 pounds, she'd be far more upset about it than I would be. If she gained 50 pounds, I'd want another solution. 😉

Thanks for the insight Jfur, now I'm hoping that the other regular women here post their own insights too, I really would like more women's opinion on this one, it is after a very personal decision for a woman I'm sure, and I respect that. That is partly why I'm trying to gather as much info as I can, cause I want her to know that I respect the seriousness of asking her to do something like this.

Grasshopper

St. John's is a VERY common herb that many people take to improve mood (it is even mixed in with certain teas, etc. that one might not carefully read the label of) -- there have been recent studies that show it greatly reduces effectiveness of the pill

As for dosages, there are many diffferent types and dosages. For a petite woman like Thumper, probably a lower dose is fine. But as size increases (and I don't necessarily mean fat), a higher dose may be necessary. Of course, ANY dose CAN wreak havoc with a woman's body. Read the list of people who should not take the pill (according to the minimum info in the ads; you'll find them in virtually every women's magazine) -- women over a certain age, many smokers, people with any history of breast cancer, stroke, blood clotting problems, thromboembolism, heart disease, hypertension, diabetes, certain headaches, endometrial cancer or related issues, abnormal genital bleeding, liver disease, etc.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT these contraceptives CAUSE the above conditions, but you really have to wonder about the stress placed in the body when you get a laundry list like that. That is why you want to carefully lok at all options and make sure that you understand possible risks (or rather, that SHE does).

As for weight, a majoe complaint by MANY women is that --without any other changes -- the pill will add between 5-10 lbs. Some people's hormones are really out of whack and they gain more. There are some studies that refute this claim but I have personally seen several women balloon over the period of a few months after going on the pill. I can't tell you why. Maybe they were in a new relationship and ate more 😉

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I am a fan of the pill, but I have had a couple of relationships disintegrate once my girlfriend went on it - some women are affected rather strongly by the added hormones and get VERY cranky. I think this can be corrected by selecting a different pill or dosage, but I have seen firsthand that introducing the pill into a relationship can be problematic.

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: Jfur
St. John's is a VERY common herb that many people take to improve mood (it is even mixed in with certain teas, etc. that one might not carefully read the label of) -- there have been recent studies that show it greatly reduces effectiveness of the pill

Hmm, maybe I should start taking it, I've been depressed the past week without a job or doing any flying. 🙁

As for dosages, there are many diffferent types and dosages. For a petite woman like Thumper, probably a lower dose is fine.

So the pills themselves come in different "strengths", like Extra and Max Strength Advil?

That is why you want to carefully lok at all options and make sure that you understand possible risks (or rather, that SHE does).

That is why I asked, I respect that I'm asking a lot to bring this up and ask her to take this responsibility. I want to make sure she knows that I don't take it lightly.

As for weight, a majoe complaint by MANY women is that --without any other changes -- the pill will add between 5-10 lbs.

Don't tell her this, cause she'll really hurt me, but she could stand to gain 5-10lbs. 🙂 Don't get me wrong, she's very good looking as she is, but a little bit of meat on her bones wouldn't hurt.

Grasshopper

 

[d33pt]

depo shot was kind of a catch 20 for me.... my gf lost her libido after getting it... kinda defeats the purpose

 

[eakers]

if she smokes she will be at a high risk for cancer while on the pill.
even if she doesn't smoke she is still at a high risk for cancer while on the pill.
headaches, nausia, blood clots, weight gain are all side effects from the pill.

please be careful.

i got this lecture from my best friend on thursday and when i got home i read the insert in my pills and even though it kind of downplayed these things they are still serious threats... especially if she is a smoker.

i enjoy how i get less cramps and regular periods and you know, NOT GETTING PREGNANT so i really can't go off them. just remember that they aren't completely side effect free.

 

[brtspears2]

Ugh, the pill made the poor gf ultra grumpy. I cant stand it.

 

Originally posted by: Ornery
"If there are other options besides the pill, I don't know about them. I'm always open to other ideas..."

Somehow, I doubt that. I think I now see why some people, especially women, get so pissed about men being against abortion. With attitudes like most of you, it's no wonder! They say it's the woman who has to suffer through pregnancy, so she should have the right to terminate if she wants. Since men don't have to go through that, they shouldn't have a say about abortion.

Now I see that so many here are too damn lazy, stupid or selfish to bother with a condom. Better to have their GF suffer through God knows what to her hormones, physical and mental changes of birth control pills. Pretty much disgusts me! :disgust:

There is NO FVCKING WAY I'd insist on having my GF, fiancee or wife take that crap. We had sex plenty, but found better ways to keep from getting pregnant. How the hell do our schools spend so much time teaching kids about sex, and end up turning out students with attitudes like I'm hearing in this thread, or worse, teenage parents? Pathetic! Nobody believes in good healthy sex, or planned parenthood more than I do, but I sure don't look to the pill as the solution.

You say, "I'm always open to other ideas...", well why not think a little bit harder about other ways you could have sex without coitus. Think about the side effects of the pill before you get so damn lazy or selfish about using a condom. Use your imagination, use the Web, read some more!

thats why i always use a condom. If she wants the pill, or is already on it, its a bonus for me. But i never bring it up..its not my body.

 

[Jfur]

As for dosages, there are many diffferent types and dosages. For a petite woman like Thumper, probably a lower dose is fine.

So the pills themselves come in different "strengths", like Extra and Max Strength Advil?

Grasshopper[/quote]

No, there are different versions of "the pill" -- or oral contraceptives as they are called (although this includes injections, time-release vaginal rings, etc.) All affect hormone levels (estrogen/progesterone, pituitary (LH))and some come in different PRESCRIBED doses. All are massively marketed by pharmaceutical companies and all have a list of side effects and contraindications.

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: eakers
if she smokes she will be at a high risk for cancer while on the pill.
even if she doesn't smoke she is still at a high risk for cancer while on the pill.

Neither of us smokes, thankfully. 🙂

I read recently on CNN's web site that the link between the Pill and cancer was false. Was that report incorrect?

headaches, nausia, blood clots, weight gain are all side effects from the pill.

please be careful.

Yes, again that's why I'm asking, to get past the promotional materials and learn the truth.

i enjoy how i get less cramps and regular periods and you know, NOT GETTING PREGNANT so i really can't go off them. just remember that they aren't completely side effect free.

That is one reason why I'm somewhat comfortable asking her to consider this. Millions of women take it, so it can't be all bad. But I care about her far too much to ask her to do anything harmful to her body. I love that body too and want it to stay in good shape for years to come! 😀

Grasshopper

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: FallenHero
thats why i always use a condom. If she wants the pill, or is already on it, its a bonus for me. But i never bring it up..its not my body.

I'm not suggesting that I'm going to *tell* her to do this, I'm going to ask her if she will consider it. There might be other options too, and I'll ask her about those, but this is the one everyone seems to know the most about.

Neither of us really want to continue using condoms, so that isn't really the issue...

Grasshopper