The Pill

[Ornery]

"You're making assumptions here, and you know what that means.


...I bought this up tomorrow...

I'm planning to bring this up to Thumper this weekend (and hope it doesn't go over like a lead balloon).

It shall be interesting to see what kind of reaction I get to bringing this subject up.

...Don't tell her this, cause she'll really hurt me..."

I assume NOTHING. Many posts state flat out that they'd rather have their GF take the pill than bother with a condom. There's no medical side effects to a condom. Can't say the same about the pill. How lazy, stupid and/or inconsiderate can you get?

Why are you "bringing this up"? Why not just take it upon yourself to use the condom or find other ways to have sex without risking pregnancy? Why would she "hurt you"? I take it this is not her idea? I'm assuming it isn't, so what if she says, "Screw the pill, it's got too much baggage."?



There have been times when it was her choice to not bother, not mine... I'm far too respectful to just make that assumption, but I've brought it up and she's basicly said no.

I suppose I should insist, but oh well...

Oh well what? Take the chance on getting pregnant? So much for not being stupid!

 

[Jfur]

Originally posted by: grasshopper26

Originally posted by: eakers
if she smokes she will be at a high risk for cancer while on the pill.
even if she doesn't smoke she is still at a high risk for cancer while on the pill.

Neither of us smokes, thankfully. 🙂

I read recently on CNN's web site that the link between the Pill and cancer was false. Was that report incorrect?

headaches, nausia, blood clots, weight gain are all side effects from the pill.

please be careful.

Yes, again that's why I'm asking, to get past the promotional materials and learn the truth.

i enjoy how i get less cramps and regular periods and you know, NOT GETTING PREGNANT so i really can't go off them. just remember that they aren't completely side effect free.

That is one reason why I'm somewhat comfortable asking her to consider this. Millions of women take it, so it can't be all bad. But I care about her far too much to ask her to do anything harmful to her body. I love that body too and want it to stay in good shape for years to come! 😀

Grasshopper

you can find a scientific report that argues ANYTHING -- the scientific method requires an acccretion of evidence -- it cannot be proven "false" (and you'd have to carefully look at the entire study), just evidence to the contrary. And that is only one potential side effect (and not the scariest IMO)

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: Ornery
Why are you "bringing this up"? Why not just take it upon yourself to use the condom or find other ways to have sex without risking pregnancy? Why would she "hurt you"? I take it this is not her idea? I'm assuming it isn't, so what if she says, "Screw the pill, it's got too much baggage."?

We haven't talked about it yet, but I know neither of us wants to continue to use condoms...

You obviously haven't really read the threads, my comment about her "hurting me" would be in response to my comment that she could probably use another 10lbs added to her body, would put some meat on her bones. 🙂

Grasshopper

 

[notfred]

Something tells me that Ornery is a virgin who went to one of those high schools where they preach abstinence.

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: notfred
Something tells me that Ornery is a virgin who went to one of those high schools where they preach abstinence.

WTF, after over 10,000 posts in a year, do you just create posts without bothering to read any others?

Jesus, can't you dweebs find any other way to have sex without dipping your wick? Christ, I'll bet 10 minutes of sex for you nefs is 5 minutes of overtime!

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: notfred
Something tells me that Ornery is a virgin who went to one of those high schools where they preach abstinence.

WTF, after over 10,000 posts in a year, do you just write posts without bothering to read any?

Oops, sorry, I missed that line.

Anyway, I don't see why you're so uptight. I'm sure you know how you get. At times condoms in a drawer, or in the other room, or basically anywhere but already on your dick are too far out of the way to bother getting them. Should people stop and go get them? Yes. Do they? Sometimes. "Sometimes" isn't very reliable protection. The pill protects against that.

I don't see how you can talk abnout all the horrible effects of the pill if you have no experience with it. My fiance has been on the piull for a couple years now and she's fine. Along with millions of other women. You may be scared of the pill, but it does work fantastically for a lot of people. Seeing as your and your woman never even TRIED to use it, I don't see why you're getting all bent out of shape when other people prefer it.

Basically you're viewpoint sounds a lot like: "I don't think we'd like the pill, it doesn't sound like a very good idea to us. Therefore, everyone who uses it is a moronic, irresponible ass"

 

[Ornery]

I never smoked cigarettes either! Their poor record was enough for me to not bother taking the chance. The pill's record isn't as bad by a long shot, but it sure as hell ain't squeaky clean. Why take the chance? Most of the pill's bad effects have come to light in the last 15 or twenty years. I opted out long before that. Sounds like we made the right decision, IMO. Even back then, there were rumors about having problems getting pregnant after going off the pill. True or not, why take the chance.

And for crying out loud, can you guys not get your rocks off without insertion? My God, you kids are in a rut already!

 

[notfred]

Everything has risks and benefits, you have to weigh them against each other to see if it's worth doing.

Cigarrettes:
Benefits - none.
Risks - fairly high chance of getting cancer, emphyzema, etc.

My opinion: not worth the risk for this one.

Birth Control Pills:
Benefits - very effective at preventing pregnancy, regulating menstrual cycle, reducing acne.
Risks - possible weight gain or abnormal bleeding, very small risk of more serious side effects.

My girlfriend's opinion: This one IS worth the risk.

Driving car to work:
Benefits - More convieneint than a bus, faster.
Risks - Could get pulled over and ticketed, costs more money, could get in an accident and die, etc.

Is this one worth the risk? You're a lot more likely to die in your car than due to complications with birth control.


Just becuase you have a different opinion on whether birth control is a worthwhile risk doesn't mean you need to get angry with everyone who disagrees with you. Anyway, it's not like someone is going to stop taking birth control cause you yelled at them on the internet.

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: notfred

Anyway, I don't see why you're so uptight. I'm sure you know how you get. At times condoms in a drawer, or in the other room, or basically anywhere but already on your dick are too far out of the way to bother getting them. Should people stop and go get them? Yes. Do they? Sometimes. "Sometimes" isn't very reliable protection. The pill protects against that.

That describes us to a T. 🙂 For better or worse, it is getting easier and easier to not bother. This is both a good and a bad thing.

The good is that we're both in love with each other, want to spend the rest of our lives together, and know that we're only having sex with each other.

The bad is that she could get pregnet without warning, and neither of us is ready to start a family tomorrow. 🙂

Grasshopper

 

[her209]

easiest solution against preganancy is to lop off your balls.

 

[Deeko]

My ex was on the depo shot most of the time we were together, its alot easier than the pill ebcause you don't ahve to worry about forgetting, you just get a shot every 3 months. It really messed up her system down there though, like she would have a mild period for 2 or 3 weeks straight sometimes.

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: her209
easiest solution against preganancy is to lop off your balls.

*smacks her209 for that painful comment*

 

My man's got to be willing to use condom (or soon the pill for men). If he isn't willing to use it, screw him. I wouldn't risk my physical and mental health for his pleasure. That's just me, though.

 

[ohtwell]

I take the pill. The only side effects I still have are headaches and a clearer complexion. When I first started it caused my cycle to be a little off but it fixed itself.



: ) Amanda

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: luvly
My man's got to be willing to use condom (or soon the pill for men). If he isn't willing to use it, screw him. I wouldn't risk my physical and mental health for his pleasure. That's just me, though.

Err...

His pleasure? Don't you enjoy sex too?

Grasshopper

 

[ohtwell]

Originally posted by: luvly
My man's got to be willing to use condom (or soon the pill for men). If he isn't willing to use it, screw him. I wouldn't risk my physical and mental health for his pleasure. That's just me, though.

Will "your man" have balls?

I just wonder because based on posts you've made about what "your man" will be like, I don't think so.


: ) Amanda

 

LOL, Grasshopper. I knew someone would say that. My body and health comes first. I would enjoy sex, but it has to be with someone willing to do it the way we mutually agree. If it's some a**hole who feels entitled to it no matter what the situation, even when my health is at risk and it would be best if he just put on a condom, then I say in big letters: SCREW HIM. I said for his pleasure because refusing to use condom is solely for his pleasure beyond the pleasure of both parties.

"Will 'your man' have balls?

I just wonder because based on posts you've made about what 'your man' will be like, I don't think so."

Whatever! It's my personal biz. If I like a man without balls or with balls, it's my business. We all have different perceptions of what's pleasant or suiting.

 

[ohtwell]

Originally posted by: luvly
LOL, Grasshopper. I knew someone would say that. My body and health comes first. I would enjoy sex, but it has to be with someone willing to do it the way we mutually agree. If it's some a**hole who feels entitled to it no matter what the situation, even when my health is at risk and it would be best if he just put on a condom, then I say in big letters: SCREW HIM. I said for his pleasure because refusing to use condom is solely for his pleasure beyond the pleasure of both parties.

"Will 'your man' have balls?

I just wonder because based on posts you've made about what 'your man' will be like, I don't think so."

Whatever! It's my personal biz. If I like a man without balls or with balls, it's my business. We all have different perceptions of what's pleasant or suiting.

So be it!! I just think you are going to have a hard time finding a man like that. One that will basically bow down to you. A man that will think you are a prize and do everything for you. I could be reading your posts wrong but it seems as though that is what you want.


: ) Amanda

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: ohtwell

Originally posted by: luvly
My man's got to be willing to use condom (or soon the pill for men). If he isn't willing to use it, screw him. I wouldn't risk my physical and mental health for his pleasure. That's just me, though.

Will "your man" have balls?

I just wonder because based on posts you've made about what "your man" will be like, I don't think so.


: ) Amanda

lol 😀

I know that your girlfriend will have some chance that when shes on the pill her boobs will get bigger. Another benefit also surely?😀

Its great the pill. Of course nothing its bound to have a few side effects with the millions and millions of women that take it. But the % is small compared to the numbers that benefit.

I say if she agrees to it get her on the pill. Its cheaper then condoms! Just make sure she doesn't forget to take it. She might not be use to taking it the same time every day. Set up an alarm for yourself also that tells you when shes suppose to take it. Then you help remind her. Give a code name for it so you can say it in convosation etc when around people and people don't know what your talking about.

 

[ohtwell]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: ohtwell

Originally posted by: luvly
My man's got to be willing to use condom (or soon the pill for men). If he isn't willing to use it, screw him. I wouldn't risk my physical and mental health for his pleasure. That's just me, though.

Will "your man" have balls?

I just wonder because based on posts you've made about what "your man" will be like, I don't think so.


: ) Amanda

lol 😀

I know that your girlfriend will have some chance that when shes on the pill her boobs will get bigger. Another benefit also surely?😀

Its great the pill. Of course nothing its bound to have a few side effects with the millions and millions of women that take it. But the % is small compared to the numbers that benefit.

I say if she agrees to it get her on the pill. Its cheaper then condoms! Just make sure she doesn't forget to take it. She might not be use to taking it the same time every day. Set up an alarm for yourself also that tells you when shes suppose to take it. Then you help remind her. Give a code name for it so you can say it in convosation etc when around people and people don't know what your talking about.

Very good idea! For the first few months I had a hard time remembering to take them. I found it's a lot easier to take them at night.

I used to loose my pill pack all the time! 😱


: ) Amanda

 

[StageLeft]

luvly am I right to think that you've never had a successful long term relationship, and probably never will until you do a 180 with your "I rock, men suck and must bow to me"-attitude?

That has nothing to do with wanting a man to wear a condom, but the meaning behind all your words when it comes to relationships are crystal clear.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: ohtwell

Originally posted by: luvly
My man's got to be willing to use condom (or soon the pill for men). If he isn't willing to use it, screw him. I wouldn't risk my physical and mental health for his pleasure. That's just me, though.

Will "your man" have balls?

I just wonder because based on posts you've made about what "your man" will be like, I don't think so.


: ) Amanda

Gasp !!! I just spat Pepsi across an LCD !!!! 🙂

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
luvly am I right to think that you've never had a successful long term relationship, and probably never will until you do a 180 with your "I rock, men suck and must bow to me"-attitude?

That has nothing to do with wanting a man to wear a condom, but the meaning behind all your words when it comes to relationships are crystal clear.

Wow!

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
luvly am I right to think that you've never had a successful long term relationship, and probably never will until you do a 180 with your "I rock, men suck and must bow to me"-attitude?

That has nothing to do with wanting a man to wear a condom, but the meaning behind all your words when it comes to relationships are crystal clear.

Why do you think she's on ATOT? She's looking for a depressed, lonely man who would do ANYTHING for a woman, if only he could get one. We have lots of those kinda guys around here 😛

 

LOL, Not Fred. Maybe! Who knows . . . you never know.

"luvly am I right to think that you've never had a successful long term relationship, and probably never will until you do a 180 with your 'I rock, men suck and must bow to me'-attitude?

That has nothing to do with wanting a man to wear a condom, but the meaning behind all your words when it comes to relationships are crystal clear."

Well, maybe. You're wrong about the long term relationship comment. But frankly, I can show you many women with men that treat them like princesses and would do the world for them. That's what I want. Nothing wrong. I'm not asking anyone to adjust to my belief system or make the sacrifices. I'm just interested in someone whose ways are already set that way. And I might actually have found one. Actually, frankly, I do know many guys who're like that. It's just not too many are really attractive. But you know there are some people in life who can live a single life with companionship. I am one who has no problem living such life. I actually enjoy the single life with male friends. 😉 Soon, maybe it'll just be a single male companion. 😛