The Peyton Manning Release Watch

[IAteYourMother]

Alex Smith is a FA. They only signed him to a 1 year deal last year. For all I care he can go fuck himself.

Good thing you're not in charge

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Maybe Kyle Williams can be the next 49ers QB. He seems to have a quick release on the ball.

 

[Gothgar]

Maybe Kyle Williams can be the next 49ers QB. He seems to have a quick release on the ball.

:biggrin:

 

[SphinxnihpS]

The type of injury he has means he will never ever ever be the same again.

 

[lothar]

How did he get the injury anyway and when did he get it?

 

[Imported]

I don't think Peyton would be a good fit with the 49ers.. He's a QB who throws his receivers open and there's no way training camp and exhibition games is going to get him the time needed for him to trust his receivers so he can do that. It'd take a year before he'd be playing well within Harbaugh's system I imagine.

 

[zinfamous]

I'm still not convinced that Alex Smith is the answer. If the Niners could get Manning for a couple of years, they'd be insane to pass that up.

Manning is a quadriplegic waiting to happen.

it's funny to me that so much of this rumor and speculation going on is based on "football health."

I always thought Peyton was such a great athlete, and football player, because he was one of those few players in the league, and in league history,that was truly smart. He wasn't just cocky and full of skills, he studied. He didn't just study, but he truly knew the game and understood everyfucking thing that he saw over his offensive line--and he did. Like a god damn grand master Chess player.

If he plays again, all of that is gone. He then becomes one of the dumbest humans ever.





...anyway. We saw this year that Alex Smith is a perfectly capable QB. Next year should be the first year that he has a consistent OC; a team--and a head coach--that are completely behind him. He's excellent on his feet and in the pocket, he clearly has a cannon when he needs it, and does have some deadly accuracy. He's got balls--holy shit 3rd and 8 in the 4th in the Divisional Playoff against NO? wow. He deserves another year. This is a fantastic team, and there is absolutely no reason to shake it up like that. The way that offense got clicking in the final quarter of the season is somewhat analogous to GreenBay's run last year leading up to the Super Bowl. SF had the D all year--without question, but suspect offense. I've said all year that Smith is the biggest problem, but I think his play at the end of the season and the playoffs shows that he deserves a shot.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Ravens D Coordinator Pagano hired as the new Colts coach.

If Manning wasn't involved in the hiring, another indication that Manning is out.

 

[Jadow]

hate to say it, this is a no-brainer.

He has to go. 28 MILLION DOLLARS is too much to pay for dead weight.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Maybe Kyle Williams can be the next 49ers QB. He seems to have a quick release on the ball.

swish

 

[IndyColtsFan]

zin, Manning will listen to the doctors. If they tell him to retire or that here is a huge risk, he'll retire.

 

[Linflas]

You can't judge Jim Irsay by the actions of his dad. Bob was a drunken, mean, and nasty individual who would meddle in the affairs of the team all the way down to going to the sideline or locker room and demanding certain players be played. Jim has been a class act and when he took over, hired pros to run the team.

With that being said, the state of Maryland and the city of Baltimore aren't innocent little sheep that were led to slaughter by Irsay. Both entities knew he was serious and were taking action to seize the Colts via eminent domain. Irsay had to make a quick decision and the other finalist for the Colts, Phoenix, had dropped out a little earlier so the decision to move to Indy was easy. Quite frankly, I would've done the same thing if I owned the team.

I am expecting some bitter Baltimore fans to pipe in and try to crucify Irsay and defend their city/state, but I really don't care. Their bitterness toward Indy is ridiculous and incredibly hypocritical. And no, the "but...but...we left the Browns history in Cleveland!" doesn't excuse them, either. Oh, and thanks for our new head coach, Baltimore! Don't mind us -- we'll probably take a few other coaches from you as well.

Despite my loathing for all things Irsay due to the events of March 29, 1984 you are pretty much correct about the move. Once the Maryland idiots starting moving towards exercising eminent domain over the Colts their fate was sealed. Current Baltimore fans really have no cause to be bitter because when the opportunity presented itself Baltimore did precisely the exact same thing Indianapolis did.

 

[ichy]

Here's a really, really wacky idea that my roommate put out yesterday. He said that if the Colts release Manning the Ravens will try to sign him for a year in a go for broke attempt to make the Superbowl in 2013. He thinks the team is headed for some lean years no matter what, and next season will be their last chance in several years to go all the way. I'm much less of a football fan than he is but I think his idea is insane.

 

[angminas]

Jets, Eagles, and Chargers need coaches. Patriots, Packers, Steelers, Saints, and Giants don't need a QB. 49ers, Ravens, Bears, Cowboys, Lions, Bills, and Texans can't rock the boat for an old player. There's only one serious team that desperately needs a QB.

Denver should pounce on him if they get a chance...there hasn't been an opportunity like this since Montana. Denver with a healthy Peyton, the big guy upstairs, and Timmeh at TE / RB / OLB / BBW is suddenly tied for Super Bowl favorite in the AFC for the next 2-4 years. If I'm Peyton and I'm determined to come back for a shot at a ring, I get with Jerry Rice and start some altitude training.

But as I've said before, you just don't mess with the neck. Peyton's gotta git while the gittin's good. What's left for him in the current state of the NFL is just not worth it. He can still contribute tremendously on the sidelines while making megabuck$. vi has the right idea...for both Peyton and the Colts, mentoring Luck is the way to go. If Peyton stays as a coach and Luck pans out, they go 11-5 next year.

Not that I see that happening. Sounds like Peyton's got a burr up his assembly. I think he's going to the Jets or Broncos.

 

[ichy]

Despite my loathing for all things Irsay due to the events of March 29, 1984 you are pretty much correct about the move. Once the Maryland idiots starting moving towards exercising eminent domain over the Colts their fate was sealed. Current Baltimore fans really have no cause to be bitter because when the opportunity presented itself Baltimore did precisely the exact same thing Indianapolis did.

Most Baltimore fans no longer care about Irsay & the Colts. It happened a long time ago and we have a good new team. The whiners are certainly still out there and they're loud, but they're also a fringe minority.

 

[JD50]

Despite my loathing for all things Irsay due to the events of March 29, 1984 you are pretty much correct about the move. Once the Maryland idiots starting moving towards exercising eminent domain over the Colts their fate was sealed. Current Baltimore fans really have no cause to be bitter because when the opportunity presented itself Baltimore did precisely the exact same thing Indianapolis did.

No, we did not. The key difference being we have the Balitmore Ravens, not the Baltimore Browns. No one here wanted the Browns. Cleveland still has the Browns.

 

[JD50]

Most Baltimore fans no longer care about Irsay & the Colts. It happened a long time ago and we have a good new team. The whiners are certainly still out there and they're loud, but they're also a fringe minority.

Yep. The only thing that still bothers me is the history of the Baltimore Colts and Indy Colts not being separate. Well, that and the classless Indy fans that come to Ravens games and STILL rub the move in our faces.

 

[ichy]

Yep. The only thing that still bothers me is the history of the Baltimore Colts and Indy Colts not being separate. Well, that and the classless Indy fans that come to Ravens games and STILL rub the move in our faces.

Ha, my roommate order a fake Ravens jersey from China that has Johnny Unitas's named & number on it

 

[IndyColtsFan]

No, we did not. The key difference being we have the Balitmore Ravens, not the Baltimore Browns. No one here wanted the Browns. Cleveland still has the Browns.

That's just you guys rationalizing the fact that you took the Browns from Cleveland. Maybe had the Maryland legislature and Baltimore not been such gigantic asshats, they could've negotiated an agreement with the NFL and Irsay to keep the Colts name in Baltimore.

Modell left the name and "history" behind in Cleveland. Big deal. You took the entire roster, all the staff, equipment, etc. and left Cleveland without a team for several years. I bet if you ask someone in Cleveland what they think of what happened, they wouldn't say "Oh, well, we weren't mad because they left the name even though we were without NFL football for years." Now, obviously, they eventually got a team back so the anger has died down, but still, there were many angry people and lots of people laugh at Baltimore fans who express bitterness towards Indy because of the hypocrisy.

Yep. The only thing that still bothers me is the history of the Baltimore Colts and Indy Colts not being separate. Well, that and the classless Indy fans that come to Ravens games and STILL rub the move in our faces.

Would this be like the classless Ravens fans who harass our players when they go to your stadium?

 

[zinfamous]

zin, Manning will listen to the doctors. If they tell him to retire or that here is a huge risk, he'll retire.

I don't doubt it. I think they told him that months ago, though. :\

Now, I don't know if there's some sort of fancy alien treatment now available--maybe they injected some adult stem cells into his neck or something--but I'm 90% confident that he's done.

 

[zinfamous]

Jets, Eagles, and Chargers need coaches. Patriots, Packers, Steelers, Saints, and Giants don't need a QB. 49ers, Ravens, Bears, Cowboys, Lions, Bills, and Texans can't rock the boat for an old player. There's only one serious team that desperately needs a QB.

Denver should pounce on him if they get a chance...there hasn't been an opportunity like this since Montana. Denver with a healthy Peyton, the big guy upstairs, and Timmeh at TE / RB / OLB / BBW is suddenly tied for Super Bowl favorite in the AFC for the next 2-4 years. If I'm Peyton and I'm determined to come back for a shot at a ring, I get with Jerry Rice and start some altitude training.

But as I've said before, you just don't mess with the neck. Peyton's gotta git while the gittin's good. What's left for him in the current state of the NFL is just not worth it. He can still contribute tremendously on the sidelines while making megabuck$. vi has the right idea...for both Peyton and the Colts, mentoring Luck is the way to go. If Peyton stays as a coach and Luck pans out, they go 11-5 next year.

Not that I see that happening. Sounds like Peyton's got a burr up his assembly. I think he's going to the Jets or Broncos.

I like this idea--Maybe Manning could head straight into coaching in Indy, work up a rep as QB coach/Offensive coordinator, and make a long, long career out of it. Hell, the Vols would probably hire him as HC right now!

 

[JD50]

That's just you guys rationalizing the fact that you took the Browns from Cleveland. Maybe had the Maryland legislature and Baltimore not been such gigantic asshats, they could've negotiated an agreement with the NFL and Irsay to keep the Colts name in Baltimore.


Modell left the name and "history" behind in Cleveland. Big deal. You took the entire roster, all the staff, equipment, etc. and left Cleveland without a team for several years. I bet if you ask someone in Cleveland what they think of what happened, they wouldn't say "Oh, well, we weren't mad because they left the name even though we were without NFL football for years." Now, obviously, they eventually got a team back so the anger has died down, but still, there were many angry people and lots of people laugh at Baltimore fans who express bitterness towards Indy.

The Browns are still in Cleveland last I checked. I don't blame them for being mad. The point is, you can't compare Indy taking the Colts and Baltimore taking the Browns. Cleveland still has the colors, name, and history. Roster, staff, equipment?? Who cares about that. No one in Baltimore is complaining about Indy taking the tackling dummies or wide receivers coach...what a ridiculous point.

Would this be like the classless Ravens fans who harass our players when they go to your stadium?

If you don't understand the difference between the two then I can't help you. Indy Orioles shirts, raising a mayflower flag at the tailgate lot, etc...

Old Baltimore Colts fans are bitter because their team was taken from them, I understand that. Indy fans are bitter because...they got a football team? What?

Edit - Do you even go to football games? You think the home team harassing the visiting team is something unique to the Colts coming to Baltimore? lol.

 

[Falloutboy]

manning is going to be a talking head not a coach,

 

[IndyColtsFan]

The Browns are still in Cleveland last I checked. I don't blame them for being mad. The point is, you can't compare Indy taking the Colts and Baltimore taking the Browns. Cleveland still has the colors, name, and history. Roster, staff, equipment?? Who cares about that. No one in Baltimore is complaining about Indy taking the tackling dummies or wide receivers coach...what a ridiculous point.

If you don't understand the difference between the two then I can't help you. Indy Orioles shirts, raising a mayflower flag at the tailgate lot, etc...

It is a difference trumpeted by Baltimore fans so that they think they can claim, with a clear conscience, that what they did to Cleveland was somehow OK. I assure you, most fans view the moves in the same light. It is patently absurd to get a new expansion team and claim "Well, it is the same as the old team because it is named the same." Regardless of what you say, the Cleveland Browns ceased to exist and Cleveland had NO NFL football for several years.

As a matter-of-fact (and I could be mistaken), I don't ever remember holding the name and history of the Colts even being an issue until years later, when Baltimore got the Ravens. From what I remember, Baltimore tried to negotiate with Irsay to get the name back at the time and he told them to get bent. I don't blame him.

Old Baltimore Colts fans are bitter because their team was taken from them, I understand that. Indy fans are bitter because...they got a football team? What?

We're not bitter, we just enjoying laughing at the bitter old Baltimore fans who still scream and cry about the Colts. It happened 28 years ago, they need to move on. Up until this year, we had beaten the Ravens like 9 times in a row and I'm sure that pissed off the bitter fans even more.

Edit - Do you even go to football games? You think the home team harassing the visiting team is something unique to the Colts coming to Baltimore? lol.

Do you deny that the fans don't act up even more when the Colts come to town? I do know that several Colts players have mentioned how bad it is.

 

[JD50]

It is a difference trumpeted by Baltimore fans so that they think they can claim, with a clear conscience, that what they did to Cleveland was somehow OK. I assure you, most fans view the moves in the same light. It is patently absurd to get a new expansion team and claim "Well, it is the same as the old team because it is named the same." Regardless of what you say, the Cleveland Browns ceased to exist and Cleveland had NO NFL football for several years.

The Cleveland Browns are in Cleveland. Their history, colors, and name, remain in Cleveland. The Baltimore Colts are in Indy, their history, colors, and name are in Indy, not Baltimore. You're a bright guy, I'm not sure why you can't understand the difference. No one here wanted the Baltimore Browns, PRECISELY because of what happened with Indy. We wanted our own team, with our own history, colors, and name.

You really have no idea what you're talking about. Patently absurd? The NFL disagrees with you. The Cleveland Browns are not considered an expansion team. They were de-activated then re-activated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Cleveland_Browns Check the NFL's website. http://www.nfl.com/teams/clevelandbrowns/profile?team=CLE

Founded: 1946

Go check the stats. http://www.nfl.com/teams/clevelandbrowns/statistics?season=2011&team=CLE&seasonType= The records continue all the way back to 1946.

From the official site for the pro football hall of fame - http://www.profootballhof.com/history/team.aspx?TeamAlias=cleveland-browns&InfoTab=Facts - Franchise granted: June 4, 1944 as Charter Member of AAFC

Baltimore Ravens - http://www.profootballhof.com/history/team.aspx?TeamAlias=baltimore-ravens&InfoTab=Facts - Franchise Granted: February 9, 1996

As a matter-of-fact (and I could be mistaken), I don't ever remember holding the name and history of the Colts even being an issue until years later, when Baltimore got the Ravens. From what I remember, Baltimore tried to negotiate with Irsay to get the name back at the time and he told them to get bent. I don't blame him.

You are mistaken, it was always an issue with Baltimore fans. No one wants to change the Ravens to the Colts, we just want the history to be separate.

Do you deny that the fans don't act up even more when the Colts come to town? I do know that several Colts players have mentioned how bad it is.

Sure, they act up more than when some random team like the Broncos or Texans come to town, but it's nothing like when a rival like the Steelers come to town. OMG opposing players are booed... that's normal. Comparing it to Indy fans coming to Baltimore with Indy Orioles shirts and Mayflower flags is ridiculous. There's no reason for the hostility, and the classless hayseeds from Indy have been pulling that kinda crap since 1984 when they originally sported Indy Orioles shirts. Ravens fans don't act like that towards Browns fans, and if some do, well, they're classless. And that's the difference, you're excusing that behavior and participating in it yourself, I'm admitting that it's classless.

BTW, most of us got over it back in 2000 when Baltimore won the Super Bowl before Indy did. That helped out a lot, but there's still a lot of old folks that are still bitter about their childhood team getting stolen in the middle of the night. I can't blame them, I'm not sure how you could.

Edit - Somehow I accidentally removed this from the quotes.

We're not bitter, we just enjoying laughing at the bitter old Baltimore fans who still scream and cry about the Colts. It happened 28 years ago, they need to move on. Up until this year, we had beaten the Ravens like 9 times in a row and I'm sure that pissed off the bitter fans even more.

Like I said, classless.