The Peyton Manning Release Watch

[IndyColtsFan]

We take over the hill QBs and let them have one last stand.

Manning at 50% is still a top 10 QB.

 

[darkswordsman17]

i heard rumors that the redskins were looking at taking him from indy. i'm a skins fan and i'd be pretty pissed if that happened. he's too old right now and he's got an injury that will ONLY make things worse down the road.

The Redskins get mentioned for every big name player, especially QBs.

Personally, I'd take even a single year of Peyton over what they've been trotting out the past several years. It'll buy them time to get a young guy to take over after he's done. I doubt they'll be out much if Peyton goes out.

I know I sure as hell would gladly take him in KC. Cassel can be the backup where he belongs, and Stanzi or another young guy can sit behind and prepare to take over while learning something from one of the best QBs.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

unless hes playing at full strength come march 7 i think the only sane thing to do is cut him loose. too much money at risk and if last season is any indication, cant trust projections on health. peyton will be welcomed with open arms and very likely be successful somewhere else if he does return to game strength, but the colts forced their own hand with the ridiculous option payout.

 

[JTsyo]

If they have the money Luck can learn a lot behind Manning for a season or two. Like Young and Montana or Rodgers and Farve.
But I see what MV is saying. That money could be used to improve other aspects of the team.

 

[manimal]

If it was me I would take a year off and sign a few Favre contracts after keeping cash flowing into the estate as he transitions to his business interests. I wouldn't be surprised if he runs for office some day.

He could announce in front of his hospital.

 

[dud]

Irsay has repeatedly said that if Peyton is healthy, he'll be a Colt. I will hold him to his word.

You must REALLY be a die-hard Colts fan.

1. This is the same family that moved the Colts from Baltimore to Indy under the cover of darkness?

2. Manning is injured and missed the entire 2011 season?

3. Manning's current contract reportedly includes a $28 million non-guaranteed option and a separate $28 million non-exercise fee if the Colts elect not to pick up the previous option.

4. The Colts were so bad last season that they have the #1 pick in the draft and could potentially pick up Andrew Luck (or another QB).

5. See #1.

 

[dfuze]

He's got money, a ring, a chance at the hall, and most importantly the ability to still walk, which is what he should do, walk away while he can. He has a chance to walk away as a legend from Indy.

 

[zinfamous]

issue i see is you know what you got in manning. Luck may be a great QB in college but that means nothing in the NFL. wouldn't be teh first time a 1st round QB was a bust.

i suspect they will go with luck. he is younger and healthy and they can trade manning for other stuff they need (not to mention less pay).

Everything is possible, of course. Thing with Luck, though, is he seems to be the biggest lock in NFL certainty since, well, Peyton Manning.

 

[GoPackGo]

The question is will he learn from the Favre fiasco or repeat it...

 

[zinfamous]

No way that Irsay is going to keep him and draft Luck/Griffin. He's in a really bad spot. Keep Peyton and draft Luck/Griffin, and I think Peyton gets pissed off because his starting role is in jeopardy. Plus like someone said above he's paying out a shitload of money for 2 players, of which 1 will get to play all the time. And, it's not like the rest of the team is getting any younger. Get rid of Peyton (the guy who's won a SB for you and made you perennial playoff contenders) and draft Luck/Griffin will piss off a bunch of fans. Keep Peyton and trade the pick, well, if Peyton gets hurt and his career ends next season, that will piss off a lot of fans too.

Please don't let him go anywhere near teams in the NFC West (other than the Niners of course, but I think Alex Smith had a good year and they can continue to build the team around him). I think the only team that might take him in the NFC West would be the Seahawks.

If he goes to the Jets, stock in Holmes, Burress, and Keller gets a major bump.

They can get a couple of draft picks and maybe McFadden if Indy trades him to the Raiders.

 

[darkxshade]

Peyton is not in it for the attention so I wouldn't put him in the same basket as Favre. What he is, is in unknown territory. This is new to him. The big question mark is if his he's still able... if he can still be great without a colts uniform. I see him as the type who will give it a shot for a season and if it doesn't work out, then he'll retire. If it does, he'll stick around until his time comes. But certainly after having already sat out a season, I just don't see him making the decision to not throw the ball anymore... that's too huge and sudden an adjustment to make without regrets.

 

[spidey07]

If Eli wins another super bowl, you can bet your ass he's going to do everything he can to get another ring.

 

[Gibson486]

If Eli wins another super bowl, you can bet your ass he's going to do everything he can to get another ring.

so he will secretly be rooting for Brady?

 

[MotionMan]

49ers could make great use of him.

Don't tease me.

MotionMan

 

[mvbighead]

unless hes playing at full strength come march 7 i think the only sane thing to do is cut him loose. too much money at risk and if last season is any indication, cant trust projections on health. peyton will be welcomed with open arms and very likely be successful somewhere else if he does return to game strength, but the colts forced their own hand with the ridiculous option payout.

Manning forced the option payout. It was his idea.

 

[mvbighead]

He's got money, a ring, a chance at the hall, and most importantly the ability to still walk, which is what he should do, walk away while he can. He has a chance to walk away as a legend from Indy.

You are aware that there a number of other players who have had the same surgery and still played after, right?

From all I've read, this is not a "one shot can do him in" kinda deal. If it were, there would be no discussion. He'd simply retire.

Right now, the issue is with the nerve in his neck. Here is what Polian recently said on the issue:

"I'll ... at least paraphrase Dr. (Robert) Watkins, who operated on Peyton back in September. He said, 'There is no potion, there is no medicine, there is no modality, there is no series of exercises, there is no test and there is no surgery that can predict accurately when a nerve can regenerate,' and that is the issue here."

At this point, his neck should be stronger but less mobile. He's been dealing with this pain for 2-3 years. In trying to get it permanently fixed, he set himself back a bit. That could still turn out to be a great decision as he may have up to 5 years (or perhaps more) left, and he could be more healthy than he has been the past few seasons.

So, long story short, no. This is not some life threatening debacle. If it were, he'd have retired already. It is simply a matter of a nerve healing, and when that happens.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

You must REALLY be a die-hard Colts fan.

See screen name.

1. This is the same family that moved the Colts from Baltimore to Indy under the cover of darkness?

Do you know the circumstances of the move and why it was done in the middle of the night? Do you know much about Bob Irsay or Jim Irsay?

2. Manning is injured and missed the entire 2011 season?

Errr -- true?

3. Manning's current contract reportedly includes a $28 million non-guaranteed option and a separate $28 million non-exercise fee if the Colts elect not to pick up the previous option.

4. The Colts were so bad last season that they have the #1 pick in the draft and could potentially pick up Andrew Luck (or another QB).

True again?

5. See #1.

See comments on #1.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

so he will secretly be rooting for Brady?

No, he's thinking "Maybe the Pats will trade for me. They can use the upgrade."


:awe:

 

[Patranus]

People are forgetting that the Colts owe Manning a ~$25 million dollar roster bonus which is due right before the trade deadline.

Unless the Colts can get him to give up that bonus there is really no way they are going to be able to trade him, forcing the Colts to waive him.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

People are forgetting that the Colts owe Manning a ~$25 million dollar roster bonus which is due right before the trade deadline.

No one is forgetting, and it is $28 million due at the official start of the season IIRC, which is March 8 or thereabouts.

Unless the Colts can get him to give up that bonus there is really no way they are going to be able to trade him, forcing the Colts to waive him.

My guess is that they're going to renegotiate, but the rumor is that Manning won't budge. Not sure if there is any truth to that or not.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Looks like Chuck Pagano will be the next Colts coach.

 

[spidey07]

Looks like Chuck Pagano will be the next Colts coach.

Hmm, could be good.

 

[anxi80]

Of course pure speculation/rumors...

A Dolphins source tells the Miami Herald that the team's offseason priority is to acquire Peyton Manning.

It makes us wonder if the Colts might pay Manning's March 8 roster bonus and try to swing him to the Dolphins in a trade. Per the Herald, the Dolphins have not even shown preliminary interest in free agent Matt Flynn. The Fins apparently believe they have a roster ready to compete for Super Bowls after the addition of a franchise quarterback. Even if it's only a quick fix.

 

[Patranus]

No one is forgetting, and it is $28 million due at the official start of the season IIRC, which is March 8 or thereabouts.



My guess is that they're going to renegotiate, but the rumor is that Manning won't budge. Not sure if there is any truth to that or not.

He is due the roster bonus on March 8th. The new league year starts on March 18th.

The Colts can either waive him prior to March 8th, pay him on March 8th and keep him, or pay him on March 8th and trade him.

The only way the Colts can get value out of Manning via a trade is to pay him his ~$25 million. At that price, any trade would probably not be worth it to the Colts.

Manning probably won't budge because he sees the organization being torn down. He wants no part of that. By not budging he is essentially forcing the Colts to waive him.

 

[SSSnail]

I say he should leave the NFL and join SNL.