~~~The Official New Hampshire Primary Thread~~~

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Pabster
I'm calling it for Hillary.

Congratulations, Senator Clinton.

She was able to win Women overwhelmingly, which she lost in Iowa.

Maybe it was the virulent reaction to her tearing up and everyone calling her weak. Maybe it was that the venomous posts on here where we've seen her repeatedly called 'bitch' and 'wise and beautiful woman' by people who don't even know her are being mirrored on the street by men and overheard by women who are coming to realize how close they are to breaking a glass ceiling. Maybe those two "iron my shirt" guys weren't ignored.

It's easy to tell blacks that they shouldn't vote for Obama just because of his race, and to tell women not to vote for Hillary just because of her sex, but when neither of those groups has ever seen a black or woman in serious contention for the presidency, those pleas may fall on deaf ears, and perhaps rightly so. It's not like Hillary and Obama are grossly incompetant. She's proven a strong senator and he a charismatic and intelligent motivator. Both are accomplished academically and in their careers. I'm comfortable with either of them getting the nomination.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: Corbett
I dont hate Paul. I actually like some of his ideas (very few I should say). However, his rabid supporters here are a whole different story. They claim if you dont support Pauls ideas you are just a person who wants to kill brown people, and thats just one of the many crazy things they believe.

So yes, i will admit I take an unhealthy ammount of enjoyment in seeing their latest savior do so poorly, but mostly because of the constant barrage of condescending posts from his supporters you see here every hour.

Funny, not a peep from Perry or PC Surgeon yet. LAWL!

Poorly? The guy tied with Giuliani- and the mass media plasters Giuliani stories all day long. They are like an extension to the Giuliani campaign- especially CNN. Let me ask you- have you ever heard the media say "Longshot Giuliani"? Or let's say they talk about Giuliani as infrequently as they talk about Paul- would they footnote such discussions with a "-not that he has any chance"?

I'm really happy with the results in NH and I laugh at the face of the media who has made such a concerted effort to black Ron Paul out of the minds of the American public yet he still managed to tie their darling candidate in NH and beat him in Iowa. Hahaha

Paul has been polling at about 10% for the past 6 weeks, and despite repeated claims of underrepresentation or misrepresentation in the polls, that's exactly the number he's pulled, in both IA and NH, with NH being 60% independent. These were likely his best showings.

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: Corbett
I dont hate Paul. I actually like some of his ideas (very few I should say). However, his rabid supporters here are a whole different story. They claim if you dont support Pauls ideas you are just a person who wants to kill brown people, and thats just one of the many crazy things they believe.

So yes, i will admit I take an unhealthy ammount of enjoyment in seeing their latest savior do so poorly, but mostly because of the constant barrage of condescending posts from his supporters you see here every hour.

Funny, not a peep from Perry or PC Surgeon yet. LAWL!

Poorly? The guy tied with Giuliani- and the mass media plasters Giuliani stories all day long. They are like an extension to the Giuliani campaign- especially CNN. Let me ask you- have you ever heard the media say "Longshot Giuliani"? Or let's say they talk about Giuliani as infrequently as they talk about Paul- would they footnote such discussions with a "-not that he has any chance"?

I'm really happy with the results in NH and I laugh at the face of the media who has made such a concerted effort to black Ron Paul out of the minds of the American public yet he still managed to tie their darling candidate in NH and beat him in Iowa. Hahaha

Again, Giuliani has been the front runner in the national polls. Ron Paul has polled below 10% nationally, and up until last week Giuliani was polling at 25% nationally with a 5-6% point lead. However he is now In a near three way tie with him, Huckabee, and McCain all hovering between 19-22%. and Paul is still under 10.

Giuliani also leads in polls in places like Florida(by 6%), California(by 9%), New York(by over 30%), and New Jersey(by over 30%). So quit trying to compare Paul to Giuliani.

Exactly. New Hampshire was probably the ONLY state where Paul can pull 10%. It was their only hope.

Also, Giuliani didnt even campaign in NH and was never planning on taking it in the first place. Ron Paulbots spammed the crap out of that state and still came in 5th.

Also, stop lying about Paul tieing with Giuliani. He didnt. Paul only got 8%. Giuliani got 9% and he didnt even campaign in that state.

but, but, but....

Originally posted by: Perry404
I believe Paul can take first in NH. NH is filled with liberal libertarians. That means they know who Paul is.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[Pabster]

Ron Paul nabbed 7.61% of the vote.

Not exactly earth shattering.

 

[lozina]

They are indeed. And the polling data shows Ron Paul was trending upwards. Without the excessively influential media backing him up he managed to get much better results than one media darling (Thompson) and just about tie the most sacred of the media's choices (Giuliani). So downplaying this success is foolish.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Corbett
Again, I have to point out the earily dead silence in this thread from the Paulbots. You know had he done even halfway decent in NH they would have been posting in this thread about 5 hours ago!

:laugh:

Been at the GF's house. What do you want to hear? That I admit that I am an idiot for strongly supporting a candidate even though his odds are low? That I admit he won't win?

Four years from now, we'll have the moral authority to bitch about all the problems going unsolved, and the new ones that pop up.

Oh, the dollar is down again today? Oh look, oil is now $5 a gallon. Oh, you have "free" health insurance and it sucks? Pot is still illegal. Oh, look we're at war with another country.

And that's if the Dem's win.

I'll get out my violin for all of you.

Bamacre, you of all people know that the hacks will only throw their hat behind the candidates that are "most likely" to win - I find this especially true of the so called "conservatives" that support guys like Rudy.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: lozina
They are indeed. And the polling data shows Ron Paul was trending upwards. Without the excessively influential media backing him up he managed to get much better results than one media darling (Thompson) and just about tie the most sacred of the media's choices (Giuliani). So downplaying this success is foolish.

:laugh:

Thompson has been ignored by the mainstream media from day one. I'll wager that one can find more on Ron Paul than Fred Thompson almost anywhere.

Spin it as you like. It's a big no-show for a renegade like Paul in a state full of "Live Free Or Die!" independents.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: lozina
They are indeed. And the polling data shows Ron Paul was trending upwards. Without the excessively influential media backing him up he managed to get much better results than one media darling (Thompson) and just about tie the most sacred of the media's choices (Giuliani). So downplaying this success is foolish.

I'm sorry, but with this post you have effectively encapsulated what bugs me about Ron Paul supporters. You have your own seperate reality, not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just at some point you have to acknowledge the reality the rest of live in.

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: lozina
They are indeed. And the polling data shows Ron Paul was trending upwards. Without the excessively influential media backing him up he managed to get much better results than one media darling (Thompson) and just about tie the most sacred of the media's choices (Giuliani). So downplaying this success is foolish.

:laugh:

Thompson has been ignored by the mainstream media from day one. I'll wager that one can find more on Ron Paul than Fred Thompson almost anywhere.

Spin it as you like. It's a big no-show for a renegade like Paul in a state full of "Live Free Or Die!" independents.

Funny that I've never heard the Thompson supporters scream "conspiracy" or "censorship"...

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: lozina
They are indeed. And the polling data shows Ron Paul was trending upwards. Without the excessively influential media backing him up he managed to get much better results than one media darling (Thompson) and just about tie the most sacred of the media's choices (Giuliani). So downplaying this success is foolish.

:laugh:

Thompson has been ignored by the mainstream media from day one. I'll wager that one can find more on Ron Paul than Fred Thompson almost anywhere.

Spin it as you like. It's a big no-show for a renegade like Paul in a state full of "Live Free Or Die!" independents.

Funny that I've never heard the Thompson supporters scream "conspiracy" or "censorship"...

Probably because they were at a Thompson speech and thus sleeping

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: sirjonk
Probably because they were at a Thompson speech and thus sleeping

ZING! :laugh:

(I am a Thompson supporter.)

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: lozina
They are indeed. And the polling data shows Ron Paul was trending upwards. Without the excessively influential media backing him up he managed to get much better results than one media darling (Thompson) and just about tie the most sacred of the media's choices (Giuliani). So downplaying this success is foolish.

:laugh:

Thompson has been ignored by the mainstream media from day one. I'll wager that one can find more on Ron Paul than Fred Thompson almost anywhere.

Spin it as you like. It's a big no-show for a renegade like Paul in a state full of "Live Free Or Die!" independents.

Are you frickin kidding me? I guess you don't watch CNN. Also the local channels here (NBC & CBS) talk about Thompson a lot.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: lozina
They are indeed. And the polling data shows Ron Paul was trending upwards. Without the excessively influential media backing him up he managed to get much better results than one media darling (Thompson) and just about tie the most sacred of the media's choices (Giuliani). So downplaying this success is foolish.

I'm sorry, but with this post you have effectively encapsulated what bugs me about Ron Paul supporters. You have your own seperate reality, not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just at some point you have to acknowledge the reality the rest of live in.

I'm sorry, but with this post you have effectively encapsulated what bugs me about Ron Paul haters. You have your own seperate reality, not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just at some point you have to acknowledge the reality the rest of live in.

 

[ScottMac]

(quote)
I'm sorry, but with this post you have effectively encapsulated what bugs me about Ron Paul haters. You have your own seperate reality, not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just at some point you have to acknowledge the reality the rest of live in.
(/quote)

HAH! Our reality is much bigger than your reality!

 

[Pabster]

Denial is always the first step.

 

[lozina]

Well to be honest, everyone has their own sense of reality. So I just don't understand that criticism. It's really all relative.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Denial is always the first step.

I thought it was a river in Egypt?

 

[Jinru]

From CNN and Politico results, Sutton county shows 100% of precinct reported with Ron Paul receiving 0 out of 385 votes. Ron Paul meetup groups are reporting that their family members voted for Ron Paul in Sutton yet he somehow got 0 votes...

Same online results show Ron Paul received 0 votes in Greenville, while Nashua Telegraph shows Ron getting 25 votes.
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com...tion?category=news0807

81% of New Hampshire ballots are counted in secret by a private corporation named Diebold Election Systems (now known as ?Premier?).

I'll be posting more as things develope.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Jinru
From CNN and Politico results, Sutton county shows 100% of precinct reported with Ron Paul receiving 0 out of 385 votes. Ron Paul meetup groups are reporting that their family members voted for Ron Paul in Sutton yet he somehow got 0 votes...

Same online results show Ron Paul received 0 votes in Greenville, while Nashua Telegraph shows Ron getting 25 votes.
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com...tion?category=news0807

81% of New Hampshire ballots are counted in secret by a private corporation named Diebold Election Systems (now known as ?Premier?).

I'll be posting more as things develope.

Provide a link to this CNN Politico results showing Greenville with 0

 

[Pabster]

And, right on cue, the conspiracy theories have arrived. :laugh:

 

[lozina]

And looking over those reuslts you posted in nashuatelegraph I don't see where you can go with this, the spread on that page pretty much matches the spread for the overall results.

 

[Jinru]

Originally posted by: lozina
And looking over those reuslts you posted in nashuatelegraph I don't see where you can go with this, the spread on that page pretty much matches the spread for the overall results.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...lts/county/#val=NHREP9

both CNN and Politico report McCain winning while NT shows Romney won as well.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Pabster
And, right on cue, the conspiracy theories have arrived. :laugh:

Being closed minded or having prejudice is a very bad thing, mmmkay?

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Jinru

Originally posted by: lozina
And looking over those reuslts you posted in nashuatelegraph I don't see where you can go with this, the spread on that page pretty much matches the spread for the overall results.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...lts/county/#val=NHREP9

both CNN and Politico report McCain winning while NT shows Romney won as well.

But it looks like on the CNN page Greenville is a county while on the nashuatelegraph page Greenville is a town

edit: oh wait, no that's right, they do match. Looking at other names from the nashuatelegraph page I am finding matches on the CNN page (like Hollis) and the votes are matching up too.

But still, Look at the results for Paul compared ot the other candidates on the nashuatelegraph page, even if some votes were not tallied up he would generally be tied with Giuliani (which is a great position)

 

[Sinsear]

Ron Paul fantasyland!!!!!