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So the NRA has apologized for it's brief moment of sanity:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/03/nra-open-carry-protest_n_5441189.html

And because you never know what dangers are lurking in the toy aisle at Target:
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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/guns-target-store-open-carry-texas
 
Gonad the Barbarian said:
So the NRA has apologized for it's brief moment of sanity:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/03/nra-open-carry-protest_n_5441189.html

And because you never know what dangers are lurking in the toy aisle at Target:
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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/guns-target-store-open-carry-texas
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The NRA has apologized for its choice of words, nothing more. The full story not through a brazenly anti-NRA source can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2GThvEXDUY&t=3m50s

In short, the NRA has gone from calling them "weird" and other mean words, to doing everything but calling them "weird" and other mean words. You want to capitalize on that and rally that infinitesimal segment of the population that represents the gun control base, go for it.
 
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Thebobo said:
Lol watch the bullies follow the man.

http://vimeo.com/97172582
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That is weird and very uncomfortable to watch. I don't think those open carry guys broke the law there but I really do take issue with them following him this way, while armed with ARs. It clearly seems intended to intimidate him into leaving, which they ultimately did. It seems to me if these guys are such attention whores that they want to walk around in public in a city with long guns, they have to be prepared to be filmed.
 
Don Vito Corleone said:
That is weird and very uncomfortable to watch. I don't think those open carry guys broke the law there but I really do take issue with them following him this way, while armed with ARs. It clearly seems intended to intimidate him into leaving, which they ultimately did. It seems to me if these guys are such attention whores that they want to walk around in public in a city with long guns, they have to be prepared to be filmed.
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All idiots in that clip.

I loved the one who said to the marine "We hope you go to heaven"; as if that makes up for harassing the guy.
 
irishScott said:
In short, the NRA has gone from calling them "weird" and other mean words, to doing everything but calling them "weird" and other mean words. You want to capitalize on that and rally that infinitesimal segment of the population that represents the gun control base, go for it.
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Infinitesimal segment?

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The country is split basically 50/50 on the question of making them more strict or not.
 
Here who would bet their own lives and the lives of their children that these freaks wouldn't just decide to open up and start slaughtering? Christ if you look up the definition of mass murderer in Websters, one could simply insert a photo of one of these slugs. Yea I would be running for the back door if I saw one of them coming in the front.

I have a pretty funny idea to try on these guys. If you see one of these mouth breathing troglodytes at the place you are shopping, start insulting them and demeaning them (w/o physical contact). Really get in their face. See if you can goad one of them into shooting you. It would so nip all this open carry nonsense in the bud, especially if caught by the in-store cameras. What better way to demonstrate the inherent insanity of open-carry than inducing one of it's strongest aherents into shooting an innocent person on camera?
 
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bshole said:
Here who would bet their own lives and the lives of their children that these freaks wouldn't just decide to open up and start slaughtering? Christ if you look up the definition of mass murderer in Websters, one could simply insert a photo of one of these slugs. Yea I would be running for the back door if I saw one of them coming in the front.

I have a pretty funny idea to try on these guys. If you see one of these mouth breathing troglodytes at the place you are shopping, start insulting them and demeaning them (w/o physical contact). Really get in their face. See if you can goad one of them into shooting you. It would so nip all this open carry nonsense in the bud, especially if caught by the in-store cameras. What better way to demonstrate the inherent insanity of open-carry than inducing one of it's strongest aherents into shooting an innocent person on camera?
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Please, do. We will wait for your after action report.
 
eskimospy said:
Infinitesimal segment?



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The country is split basically 50/50 on the question of making them more strict or not.
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I see a lot more for "strict" than less strict.



I think the NRA have been remarkably successful at convincing people in the last decade or two that gun rights are "under siege". I don't know how they did it but I blame the whole conservative echo chamber and general misinformation disseminates to the public about who and what these gun regulations really effect.
 
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eskimospy said:
Infinitesimal segment?

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The country is split basically 50/50 on the question of making them more strict or not.
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Yes, and in particular on what "more strict" actually means.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/159569/americans-stricter-gun-laws-oppose-bans.aspx

Americans Want Stricter Gun Laws, Still Oppose Bans
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I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people in these polls don't read Mother Jones or the Huffington Post's dedicated anti-NRA section. They're just reasonable people in the middle who haven't really thought about the issue and are supporting what makes superficial sense to them. Such people typically aren't ideologically in favor of gun control, they think it'll actually solve a specific problem. Likewise they're usually smart enough to see what the NRA is doing, as opposed to seeing what they want to see the NRA doing; the latter being what Gonad the Barbarian, TheBobo, and Huffington Post Commenters are doing with relish.
 
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TreVader said:
I see a lot more for "strict" than less strict.



I think the NRA have been remarkably successful at convincing people in the last decade or two that gun rights are "under siege". I don't know how they did it but I blame the whole conservative echo chamber and general misinformation disseminates to the public about who and what these gun regulations really effect.
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You don't know how they did it? Were you living under a rock last year? The entire state of New York made our argument for us, California helped out a lot too. You know New York City issued confiscation threats to legal, registered gun owners within the city last last year? 2013 gave the NRA more legitimate ammunition than they'd seen in a decade. Thanks to the gun control movement, critical pieces of pro-gunner theory are now citeable fact.
 
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irishScott said:
Yes, and in particular on what "more strict" actually means.

I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people in these polls don't read Mother Jones or the Huffington Post's dedicated anti-NRA section. They're just reasonable people in the middle who haven't really thought about the issue and are supporting what makes superficial sense to them. Such people typically aren't ideologically in favor of gun control, they think it'll actually solve a specific problem. Likewise they're usually smart enough to see what the NRA is doing, as opposed to seeing what they want to see the NRA doing; the latter being what Gonad the Barbarian, TheBobo, and Huffington Post Commenters are doing with relish.
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I would say that my chart shows pretty convincingly that people for more gun control are not some tiny minority, it is in fact the single most popular choice.

The difference is motivation. While lots of Americans are ok with more gun control, gun enthusiasts are the NRA are highly motivated interest groups on the issue. That's why you don't even see gun control measures that enjoy overwhelming support enacted into law.
 
irishScott said:
You don't know how they did it? Were you living under a rock last year? The entire state of New York made our argument for us, California helped out a lot too. You know New York City issued confiscation threats to legal, registered gun owners within the city last last year? 2013 gave the NRA more legitimate ammunition than they'd seen in a decade. Thanks to the gun control movement, critical pieces of pro-gunner theory are now citeable fact.
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So much hyperbole and repetition of talking points. Nobody is confiscating guns.


The boogeyman isn't real, either, btw.
 
Gonad the Barbarian said:
So the NRA has apologized for it's brief moment of sanity:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/03/nra-open-carry-protest_n_5441189.html

And because you never know what dangers are lurking in the toy aisle at Target:
target-2-630.jpg

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/guns-target-store-open-carry-texas
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Yay attention whore retards doing stupid shit. Congrats, now guys in camo and orange and a 12 gauge on their back won't be able to walk from the woods to the store to get more coffee/ ammo.

Same reason i now have to wear a helmet when I move my ducati from the garage to the street to sweep the floors. Because some dumb fuck doesn't have enough common sense to wear one on the highway.
 
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eskimospy said:
I would say that my chart shows pretty convincingly that people for more gun control are not some tiny minority, it is in fact the single most popular choice.

The difference is motivation. While lots of Americans are ok with more gun control, gun enthusiasts are the NRA are highly motivated interest groups on the issue. That's why you don't even see gun control measures that enjoy overwhelming support enacted into law.
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But the question was about the "laws covering the sales of firearms," not "gun control." Many people support stricter firearm sales laws but reject the nonsensical, ineffective, and punitive civilian disarmament measures promoted by Bloomberg, Feinstein, et al. I suspect that even some firearms rights advocates would fall in the "more strict" category for their desire to keep firearms away from the mentally ill.
 
Venix said:
But the question was about the "laws covering the sales of firearms," not "gun control." Many people support stricter firearm sales laws but reject the nonsensical, ineffective, and punitive civilian disarmament measures promoted by Bloomberg, Feinstein, et al. I suspect that even some firearms rights advocates would fall in the "more strict" category for their desire to keep firearms away from the mentally ill.
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This.
 
eskimospy said:
I would say that my chart shows pretty convincingly that people for more gun control are not some tiny minority, it is in fact the single most popular choice.

The difference is motivation. While lots of Americans are ok with more gun control, gun enthusiasts are the NRA are highly motivated interest groups on the issue. That's why you don't even see gun control measures that enjoy overwhelming support enacted into law.
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True, I'm just saying that your chart doesn't measure ideologies or general beliefs. I doubt the vast majority of people in favor of greater sales restrictions are universally "pro-gun-control". They may want universal background checks and mental health checks, but many (most?) would probably disagree with, say, universal registration or limiting guns to 5 rounds.
 
Venix said:
But the question was about the "laws covering the sales of firearms," not "gun control." Many people support stricter firearm sales laws but reject the nonsensical, ineffective, and punitive civilian disarmament measures promoted by Bloomberg, Feinstein, et al. I suspect that even some firearms rights advocates would fall in the "more strict" category for their desire to keep firearms away from the mentally ill.
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Making it harder to purchase guns is basically the dictionary definition of gun control. It does not mean that they are in favor of any and all gun control, but they are at a minimum in favor of some additional gun control.
 
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