Teacher fired for using non preferred pronoun

[Starbuck1975]

I can ask my trans woman church friend if you like. She is good at explaining this stuff but I’ll need you to give me very specific details as to what I should ask.

No need. The barista who serves me daily is gender non-binary. I knew him when he presented as a girl, and respect his new name and pronouns. It takes no effort on my part to extend that courtesy.

Doesn’t change biology and the realities that go with it. Something as simple as his health care and preventative screenings becomes complex when different databases collide on sex and gender.

Are there solutions? Eventually. But I am not ready to tar and feather people like this teacher that got entangled in the latest culture war.

 

[Vic]

No need. The barista who serves me daily is gender non-binary. I knew him when he presented as a girl, and respect his new name and pronouns. It takes no effort on my part to extend that courtesy.

Doesn’t change biology and the realities that go with it. Something as simple as his health care and preventative screenings becomes complex when different databases collide on sex and gender.

Are there solutions? Eventually. But I am not ready to tar and feather people like this teacher that got entangled in the latest culture war.

He didn't get entangled, he chose to entangle himself by willfully not abiding by his employer's clear, simple, and reasonable instructions designed to reduce conflict and disruption in their workplace.
I get it that some people choose to believe that professional expectations of politeness and courtesy somehow victimize them, but it ain't so.

 

[theeedude]

School did the right thing, but our rigged SCOTUS might disagree.

 

[Starbuck1975]

He didn't get entangled, he chose to entangle himself by willfully not abiding by his employer's clear, simple, and reasonable instructions designed to reduce conflict and disruption in their workplace.
I get it that some people choose to believe that professional expectations of politeness and courtesy somehow victimize them, but it ain't so.

I fully expect the progressive left to respond rationally should the courts decide otherwise.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Because he isn't just a bigot. He's a principled bigot. You have to admire people for sticking to their principles.

Principles be damned. Nothing admirable about a bigot.

 

[woolfe9998]

Principles be damned. Nothing admirable about a bigot.

Your irony meter is failing you today. Principled bigot is oxy, moron.

Sorry, I don't actually think you're a moron but I just had to write that.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Are there solutions? Eventually. But I am not ready to tar and feather people like this teacher that got entangled in the latest culture war.

Haha, the guy injected his permanent culture war belief system into a classroom. But totes cool cuz Jesus.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Your irony meter is failing you today.

Apparently. I've just heard that exact same argument made seriously too many times in my life.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I fully expect the progressive left to respond rationally should the courts decide otherwise.

I don't. Itnwould just be one more way someones religion takes precedent over another person's freedoms. It will be icing on the cake when Muslim teachers expect the same treatment as Christian's and Christian's have a royal meltdown.

 

[Vic]

I fully expect the progressive left to respond rationally should the courts decide otherwise.

At least we can fully expect the left not to take the President's advice and resort to 2nd amendment measures if they don't get their way.

 

[interchange]

There is an ongoing societal debate around gender dysphoria. For this case, now it will play out in the courts.

Gender dysphoria does not equal being differently gendered then biologic sex. Gender dysphoria is clinical distress and or impairment caused by gender difference. There are plenty of trans people without gender dysphoria.

 

[Starbuck1975]

I don't. Itnwould just be one more way someones religion takes precedent over another person's freedoms. It will be icing on the cake when Muslim teachers expect the same treatment as Christian's and Christian's have a royal meltdown.

Christians and Muslims will eventually come to realize their shared biases when it comes to the LGBTQ community. Will it still be considered Islamophobia I wonder when progressives and Muslims clash on this issue?

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Christians and Muslims will eventually come to realize their shared biases when it comes to the LGBTQ community. Will it still be considered Islamophobia I wonder when progressives and Muslims clash on this issue?

Saaay whaaaaaat?

Islamists love the gays and women in power. Haven't you seen all the woke progressives doing tours in the middle east and northern africa to show how much they appreciate them?

 

[Vic]

Saaay whaaaaaat?

Islamists love the gays and women in power. Haven't you seen all the woke progressives doing tours in the middle east and northern africa to show how much they appreciate them?

Because they're all the same, right?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Christians and Muslims will eventually come to realize their shared biases when it comes to the LGBTQ community. Will it still be considered Islamophobia I wonder when progressives and Muslims clash on this issue?

Why would it be islamophobia? Lol, you'd likely consider me progressive, and I've often offered the similarities between Christian's and Muslims. If they ever stop fighting their 1,000 year war long enough to realize they have common enemy infidels to smite, that's the end of free thinking.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Saaay whaaaaaat?

Islamists love the gays and women in power. Haven't you seen all the woke progressives doing tours in the middle east and northern africa to show how much they appreciate them?

Yawn.

 

[Vic]

Christians and Muslims will eventually come to realize their shared biases when it comes to the LGBTQ community. Will it still be considered Islamophobia I wonder when progressives and Muslims clash on this issue?

No, it would not, because there is no legitimate exercise of freedom, religious or otherwise, that entitles anyone to infringe upon the benign exercise of freedom of others.
Conservatives, religious or otherwise, could come to realize that obvious truth, but then what would they do without any necks under their boots?

 

[UglyCasanova]

Because they're all the same, right?

No, it would not, because there is no legitimate exercise of freedom, religious or otherwise, that entitles anyone to infringe upon the benign exercise of freedom of others.
Conservatives, religious or otherwise, could come to realize that obvious truth, but then what would they do without any necks under their boots?

You point out that Islamist aren’t all the same then follow it with a reply lumping conservatives as some unified thing

 

[Vic]

You point out that Islamist aren’t all the same then follow it with a reply lumping conservatives as some unified thing

Oh I'm sure many conservatives agree with what I posted. Just apparently not the one I was replying to.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Christians and Muslims will eventually come to realize their shared biases when it comes to the LGBTQ community. Will it still be considered Islamophobia I wonder when progressives and Muslims clash on this issue?

I have a Gay Pastor who would disagree.

 

[Sunburn74]

No need. The barista who serves me daily is gender non-binary. I knew him when he presented as a girl, and respect his new name and pronouns. It takes no effort on my part to extend that courtesy.

Doesn’t change biology and the realities that go with it. Something as simple as his health care and preventative screenings becomes complex when different databases collide on sex and gender.

Are there solutions? Eventually. But I am not ready to tar and feather people like this teacher that got entangled in the latest culture war.

Like you said, it takes zero effort to be polite and considerate. Another example I think of this sort of issue is teachers refusing to use the ethnic name a parent gives their child in class. This is like a real thing. Because the teacher feels the name is ethnic and unusual they flat out refuse to use it and the child feels ostracized at school by the guy at the head of the class. Again it's something that takes zero effort and is really just reflects intolerance in my opinion

 

[Starbuck1975]

I have a Gay Pastor who would disagree.

Outliers are fun. Make sure to bring up your gay pastor the next time someone is foaming at the mouth about all Christians.

I will be more specific. Politically active evangelicals and Muslims from conservative Arab nations will eventually politically converge on social conservatism. Probably some Hispanics as well.

 

[fskimospy]

Outliers are fun. Make sure to bring up your gay pastor the next time someone is foaming at the mouth about all Christians.

I will be more specific. Politically active evangelicals and Muslims from conservative Arab nations will eventually politically converge on social conservatism. Probably some Hispanics as well.

I sincerely doubt this. Conservative Islam and conservative Christianity primarily seek dominance, not conservative social policy for its own merit. Because of this they view each other as the greatest threat, not potential allies. They both want a theocracy and there’s only one theology in a theocracy.

 

[ivwshane]

Outliers are fun. Make sure to bring up your gay pastor the next time someone is foaming at the mouth about all Christians.

I will be more specific. Politically active evangelicals and Muslims from conservative Arab nations will eventually politically converge on social conservatism. Probably some Hispanics as well.

Hasn’t your whole argument in this thread been about outliers? Or does slippery slope mean something different to you?

Also you didn’t answer my question, do you agree with this sentiment:

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[zinfamous]

Meh, to each their own. I'm not the one acting like a 14 year old knows what they are doing in life

....yeah, no one believes you.