Taco Bell Stupidity

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Rinaun

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What? That video is completely different from your situation. You got your food. That guy never got his food and they refused to give him his money back.

Honestly I won't lie in that I didn't view the film and only read the description, but then again I don't waste any large amount of my time on people bitching over the fact that my brother wanted 3$ of tacos remade or instead a refund. Call me out if you will, but at least call me out for not giving a fuck to a useless forum argument and just speed linking :) Most people aren't stupid enough to go "YOU CANT GET A REFUND". Yes, you can. I've so far gotten a refund on every product I've ever wanted to refund, and I'll let you know if this guy is there in two weeks when I go back. He didn't give me a refund and I let corporate know about it so at the least this should be interesting to find out how it all falls.
 
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Rinaun

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Except it's not illegal to not refund you.

Links please otherwise you are lying; I'm not bothering to look up anything more on the issue because frankly I don't care enough to bother. I think we all know it's bad policy to refuse a refund, but I'm pretty sure it's against the law in the state of California with the current way Taco Bell set up the "don't like it? get a refund" system in place. At worst it's terrible business practices.

edit: here is the whole refund law from CA.gov:


Consumers have come to expect stores or catalog companies to offer a refund, credit or exchange when they return items. Sellers are not required by law to accept returned items unless they are defective. However, California law requires that retailers who have a policy of not providing a cash refund, credit or exchange when an item is returned with proof of purchase within 7 days of purchase must inform consumers about their refund policies by conspicuously placing a written notice about their policies, in language that consumers can understand, so that it can be easily seen and read. Some companies may limit exchanges or returns for credit or refunds on all, or some products. Some may not allow exchanges or returns for credit or refunds at all. But whatever the limitation, it must be conspicuously disclosed. Before making a purchase, carefully check the store's policy.

The policy must be displayed either at each entrance to the store, at each cash register and sales counter, on tags attached to each item, or on the company's order forms, if any. A return policy printed only on a receipt, for example, is not sufficient.

If a store violates this law (California Civil Code section 1723), the purchaser can return an item for a full refund within 30 days of purchase.

There are exceptions, however to the general rule requiring notice. Notices are not required for sale of perishable goods like food or plants; for items marked, "All sales final," or something similar; for items which are used or damaged; for items customized for the consumer and received as ordered; for items which cannot be resold for health reasons; or for items not returned in their original packaging.

Some stores keep records of consumers who frequently return merchandise and sometimes report that to a central reporting company and may not offer returns or refunds to such customers. The return policy notice must refer to such practice.

Consumers who believe a retailer has violated the law can notify the consumer protection division of their local district attorney's office or by filing a complaint with the Attorney General's Office.


So technically in the CA rulings on refunds alone they get away legally because its perishable, but they also as a franchise have an open established terms of agreement which says you can ask for a refund; its posted ON . THEIR. FUCKING. WALL. GUYS. STOP. BEING. DERPS.

Its a verbal agreement and frankly from what I see online if you go through the support service even if a store refuses you if it's a valid receipt they will refund you. Depending on this terms of agreement they may have violated it by not giving me a refund when asked, thus making it illegal. Then again as I said before, you can take your whole "it's not illegal" argument and put it in your red wagon and take it home because it's only making me laugh harder IRL :). Anyone amazed they didn't call 911 and knew he was outside for 30 minutes? Dat logic.
 
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cuafpr

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so wait, why not just go eat all of it but the last bite.. and go up to the counter and say u weren't satisfied and get a refund every time, free food for life yo!

Honestly I"m glad you did what you did. but the food thing is a bit much. It would have been nice for them to do it as a reward but in no way would i say it was required... They provided you food and you left happy, what happened next is beyond their control, less it was prepared wrong or not cooked properly.
 

Rinaun

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so wait, why not just go eat all of it but the last bite.. and go up to the counter and say u weren't satisfied and get a refund every time, free food for life yo!

Honestly I"m glad you did what you did. but the food thing is a bit much. It would have been nice for them to do it as a reward but in no way would i say it was required... They provided you food and you left happy, what happened next is beyond their control, less it was prepared wrong or not cooked properly.

Holy fuck do you people not get this. They have to give you a refund if you aren't happy. Sure, it's a dick move but he refused to do that....and give me a number for his manager..........and called my sister hitler and crazy in front of two customer he knew arrived with her. Lets completely avoid the subject and go back to how asking for 3$ of tacos is "not cool, man". ATOT is not what it used to be I guess :( Guess I saw it coming with people like Cheez allowed to post.
 

WelshBloke

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You let the food go cold.
The food was in an acceptable condition when they gave it to you.
Therefore they fulfilled their part of the contract.

If you mistreated the goods in such a way that they were no longer acceptable then that's your problem not theirs.
 

JEDIYoda

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Holy fuck do you people not get this. They have to give you a refund if you aren't happy.
No you don`t get it -- they do not have to give you a refund and the police will not do anything about it!
why? Because they are powerless to do anything about it!!
 

Rinaun

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You let the food go cold.
The food was in an acceptable condition when they gave it to you.
Therefore they fulfilled their part of the contract.

If you mistreated the goods in such a way that they were no longer acceptable then that's your problem not theirs.

you should sign up for law school with all that knowledge in taco contracts dog.
 

Rinaun

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No you don`t get it -- they do not have to give you a refund and the police will not do anything about it!
why? Because they are powerless to do anything about it!!

The police aren't powerless but I'd say they don't have a real reason to "demand" them to refund me unless they never gave me food; Taco Bell's Terms of Agreement (as told to me by someone on their phone) say that I am GUARANTEED a refund at any time im not happy. Let me repeat this on one line so you guys can stop being fucking dumb:

Taco Bell has told me I am entitled to a refund at any time I am unhappy. If they do not issue a refund, the franchise will be asked to reply why.


the funniest part is I've been offered a full refund by corporate already and apologized to, so posts like yours make me laugh; cheers while I'm drinking patron :) Keep thinking your outlook is right even thought the issue is solved and frankly I'm pretty sure that employee won't be there next week from what it sounds like.
 
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JEDIYoda

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If a store violates this law (California Civil Code section 1723), the purchaser can return an item for a full refund within 30 days of purchase.

There are exceptions, however to the general rule requiring notice. Notices are not required for sale of perishable goods like food or plants; for items marked, "All sales final," or something similar; for items which are used or damaged; for items customized for the consumer and received as ordered; for items which cannot be resold for health reasons; or for items not returned in their original packaging.

Some stores keep records of consumers who frequently return merchandise and sometimes report that to a central reporting company and may not offer returns or refunds to such customers. The return policy notice must refer to such practice.

Consumers who believe a retailer has violated the law can notify the consumer protection division of their local district attorney's office or by filing a complaint with the Attorney General's Office.


So technically in the CA rulings on refunds alone they get away legally because its perishable, but they also as a franchise have an open established terms of agreement which says you can ask for a refund; its posted ON . THEIR. FUCKING. WALL. GUYS. STOP. BEING. DERPS.

Its a verbal agreement and frankly from what I see online if you go through the support service even if a store refuses you if it's a valid receipt they will refund you. Depending on this terms of agreement they may have violated it by not giving me a refund when asked, thus making it illegal. Then again as I said before, you can take your whole "it's not illegal" argument and put it in your red wagon and take it home because it's only making me laugh harder IRL . Anyone amazed they didn't call 911 and knew he was outside for 30 minutes? Dat logic.
You do not know what you are talking about when it comes to California code pertaining to restaurants -- No they do not and cannot be forced to give you a refund!! Sorry!!
 

Rinaun

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You do not know what you are talking about when it comes to California code pertaining to restaurants -- No they do not and cannot be forced to give you a refund!! Sorry!!

Read above; refund already offered and you are really old fashioned if you think that's true. Also links? you can say all you want but I've yet to see any proof.
 

Rinaun

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OP should be charged with trespassing.

OP should be charged with trolling ATOT. I should just post more of my rare life occurrences like this on ATOT and let people berate them. Some of the responses have made my friends laugh hard.
 

Newbian

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OP should be charged with trolling ATOT. I should just post more of my rare life occurrences like this on ATOT and let people berate them. Some of the responses have made my friends laugh hard.

We all know you have no friends as when you had one once and ate at their house you took too long to eat your meal and told them they had to remake the entire thing as that's your right. :biggrin:
 

cuafpr

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Holy fuck do you people not get this. They have to give you a refund if you aren't happy. Sure, it's a dick move but he refused to do that....and give me a number for his manager..........and called my sister hitler and crazy in front of two customer he knew arrived with her. Lets completely avoid the subject and go back to how asking for 3$ of tacos is "not cool, man". ATOT is not what it used to be I guess :( Guess I saw it coming with people like Cheez allowed to post.

and again if that is true, then go eat there everyday for free food!!! Simply dont be happy with it b4 your last bite. They gave you a refund simply bc. its easier/cheaper not b.c. they had to. If the kid is fired its b.c. he was rude/stupid to talk about a customer not the refund issue.

I bet you like that law suit subway is facing (Faced?) over a foot long only being 11 inches.. /sigh.
 

WelshBloke

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Read above; refund already offered and you are really old fashioned if you think that's true. Also links? you can say all you want but I've yet to see any proof.

Lol, just because they chose to give you a refund doesn't mean that they are legally required to do so.

One positive thing about this thread anyway.
It's laid to rest the old canard that the customer is always right. Sometimes the customer is not only wrong but is an arrogant, entitled, vindictive idiot as well.
 

MartyMcFly3

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Don't need a link. Im a LEO. My education, training and experience are more than enough.

You even quoted the civil code of California. It's a civil issue. Not a police matter. Police can't force people to exchange money/goods.
 
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Newbian

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I bet you like that law suit subway is facing (Faced?) over a foot long only being 11 inches.. /sigh.

They didn't measure right.

Everyone knows you start the measurement from the base of the sandwich not the top. :awe:
 

Rinaun

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and again if that is true, then go eat there everyday for free food!!! Simply dont be happy with it b4 your last bite. They gave you a refund simply bc. its easier/cheaper not b.c. they had to. If the kid is fired its b.c. he was rude/stupid to talk about a customer not the refund issue.

I bet you like that law suit subway is facing (Faced?) over a foot long only being 11 inches.. /sigh.

Actually no, I think that's completely frivolous and a waste of money for everyone involved. I do think getting a refund/remake on 3$ of food is a legitimate reason and I'd bet if I said my tacos were cold as I got them ATOT wouldn't of batted an eye. ATOT is worse than most of the elderly clients I work with in my business. For reference I had most of those same elderly people bombing my phone when AOL online was down. That's why this whole taco thing is hilarious.

The only thing I regret so far is involving the words illegal and police as apparently people here don't fear cops like most people at their workplace do. Most cashiers and salesperson would rather deal with a refund/remaking 3 tacos than management let alone threats of police. Another funny thing is the line cook behind him told the guy to just remake the food and get over it when I started asking for phone numbers. His pride basically stopped him from remaking it, which is most likely going to cost him a job. Worst case I do myself a solid and refuse to eat there anymore nor will anyone in my family (that's not hard considering the quality of food).

PS: Waiting for ATOT to comment on why I was there in the first place when I just stated the quality of food is bad.......while they forget the tacos weren't for me and I haven't eaten there in years.
 
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WelshBloke

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Don't need a link. Im a LEO. My education, training and experience are more than enough.

You even quoted the civil code of California. It's a civil issue. Not a police matter. Police can't force people to exchange money/goods.


You go in there mister and arrest every damn one of them. Shoot them if you have to. :mad:

Mans taco was cold dammit. :colbert:
 

Rinaun

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You go in there mister and arrest every damn one of them. Shoot them if you have to. :mad:

Mans taco was cold dammit. :colbert:

Shoot to kill officer. SHOOT TO KILL. It's a damn travesty I tell ya!

Lol, just because they chose to give you a refund doesn't mean that they are legally required to do so.

look up the word contract. Please post again when you know what one is. A verbal contract that hangs in every taco bells says this. Do you have taco bells in UK? Go to one please and read it.
 
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Cyco

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I see the stupidity in this thread and it sure isn't from Taco Bell. Good on you for trying to help somebody out, but what you weren't fed in tacos, others are feeding you as a troll! 10/10!
 

Meghan54

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OP, I hope your sister's malpractice insurance is paid up.

I only say that because, as your sister's a licensed EMT, she is not covered under any "Good Samaritan" statute your particular state may have, but instead will be required to give care that matches her level of training. Good Samaritan statutes only cover untrained bystanders attempting to render aid, not professionals. And this opens a whole big can of worms in relation to medical professionals and rendering care to strangers on the side of a road, etc.

There have been more than a few cases where medical professionals, MD's, nurses, EMT's, have rendered care to someone and then subsequently get sued because the care rendered wasn't "good enough" or up to professional standards.

I'd advise her to be very careful in the future about rendering aid and especially identifying herself as a trained professional.
 
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