Swine flu outbreak

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: ranmaniac
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8021483.stm

149 swine flu related deaths in Mexico.

It is Mexico. They arent know for having first rate medical care.

That said the EU is talking about shutting down air travel to and from the Americas if it continues to get worse.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: ranmaniac
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8021483.stm

149 swine flu related deaths in Mexico.

1918?s pandemic only had a 2.5% mortality rate.

149 out of 2,000 cases is a 7.45% mortality rate. So either this is a hell of a lot worse than 1918, or there is a lot of underreporting going on. My bets are on the latter. Which means we really have no clue how bad or widespread it is at this point.

 

[spacejamz]

Did Mexico piss off God??? Mexico City got hit by a 6.0 quake this afternoon...people in the streets that evacuated from building were all wearing surgical masks...

 

[IGBT]

thermal scaners being used worldwide on airline passengers to screen out fever. how come the US isn't doing this??

 

[Shortass]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: ranmaniac
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8021483.stm

149 swine flu related deaths in Mexico.

It is Mexico. They arent know for having first rate medical care.

That said the EU is talking about shutting down air travel to and from the Americas if it continues to get worse.

From the WSJ, "Flu pandemics have been known to occur every 25 years or so, and public-health experts have long warned that the next one is overdue. The last two pandemics of 1957 and 1968 together killed about four million people."

This isn't just a few Mexicans, these are 20-50 year old people dying to a pretty brutal virus. I hope we do better at saving people now than we did in '68.

 

[Xellos2099]

I really doubt the one who carried the flu to Texas, California, New York were on the plane. If you haven't notice, those 3 spot are the Mexico illegal immigrant migration path. I strongly believe that tigten of the mexico border will prevent further virus from entering the US by as much as 99%. The question is will Obama tighten the border to prevent more virus or will they let the illegal immigrant to sneak through, business as usual.

 

[IGBT]

Originally posted by: Xellos2099
I really doubt the one who carried the flu to Texas, California, New York were on the plane. If you haven't notice, those 3 spot are the Mexico illegal immigrant migration path. I strongly believe that tigten of the mexico border will prevent further virus from entering the US by as much as 99%. The question is will Obama tighten the border to prevent more virus or will they let the illegal immigrant to sneak through, business as usual.

I hear if you voted for the obama your immune to the outbreak.

 

[soccerballtux]

somebody read my first post in this thread up above, so far it is the most informative one posted yet.

 

[babylon5]

Mexico faces criticism over extremely poor swine flu response


Two weeks after the first known swine flu death, Mexico still hasn't given medicine to the families of the dead. It hasn't determined where the outbreak began or how it spread. And while the government urges anyone who feels sick to go to hospitals, feverish people complain ambulance workers are scared to pick them up

Foreign health officials were hesitant Monday to speak critically about Mexico's response, saying they want to wait until more details emerge before passing judgment. But already, Mexicans were questioning the government's image of a country that has the crisis under control.

"Nobody believes the government anymore," said Edgar Rocha, a 28-year-old office messenger. He said the lack of information is sowing distrust: "You haven't seen a single interview with the sick!"

 

[IGBT]

when the flu originated in hong kong, it was call the hong kong flu. How come this isn't called the mexican flu since it orig.in mexico??

 

[microbial]

Originally posted by: babylon5
Mexico faces criticism over extremely poor swine flu response


Two weeks after the first known swine flu death, Mexico still hasn't given medicine to the families of the dead. It hasn't determined where the outbreak began or how it spread. And while the government urges anyone who feels sick to go to hospitals, feverish people complain ambulance workers are scared to pick them up

Foreign health officials were hesitant Monday to speak critically about Mexico's response, saying they want to wait until more details emerge before passing judgment. But already, Mexicans were questioning the government's image of a country that has the crisis under control.

"Nobody believes the government anymore," said Edgar Rocha, a 28-year-old office messenger. He said the lack of information is sowing distrust: "You haven't seen a single interview with the sick!"

It is quite possible that there has been a cover-up, or an attempt at a cover-up. The question is by whome...It may be multiple parties, Government and private industry.

Mexico is almost certainly the epicenter of the outbreak, but US owned Smithfield Foods has been implicated.

Meanwhile, one of Mexico's largest producers, Granjas Carroll, a subsidiary of US hog giant Smithfield Foods, issued its own statement saying there was no sign of swine flu at any of its operations in the states of Veracruz and Puebla. The company's huge facility near the town of La Gloria was first mentioned as a possible source of the new human-swine flu outbreak by Tom Philpott at www.grist.org....

As Philpott pointed out in his post, Mexican newspapers have been reporting for weeks that residents living near Granjas Carroll's massive hog facility at La Gloria are falling ill with severe upper respiratory diseases. One five-year-old girl in the village just tested positive for swine flu - the bodies of two more children who died recently are being exhumed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...-factory_b_191579.html

 

[thirtythree]

Originally posted by: Possessed Freak

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: reallyscrued
Score one for those who steer clear of pork.

Uhhhh...no.




We are over-due for a pandemic. It is only a matter of time....

Luckily we have a Medic, a Scientist, an Operations Specialist, a Dispatcher, and a Researcher.

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No, we only have two to four of those, definitely not all five.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Relenza producer Biota shot up 80% today.

Have any of their employees been to Oaxaca in the last month ? :shocked:

 

[TheSlamma]

Originally posted by: IGBT
when the flu originated in hong kong, it was call the hong kong flu. How come this isn't called the mexican flu since it orig.in mexico??

Maybe because it came from a US owned swine farm.

I say we blame the south for all their gluttonous pork eating

 

[Zedtom]

I predict that Lou Dobbs will warn us that Mexicans will soon be pouring across the border seeking medical care in the US since their clinics are not up to the task.

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: TheSlamma

Originally posted by: IGBT
when the flu originated in hong kong, it was call the hong kong flu. How come this isn't called the mexican flu since it orig.in mexico??

Maybe because it came from a US owned swine farm.

I say we blame the south for all their gluttonous pork eating

Don't you love the left leaning critical biased CNN reporting? It's a joint venture between Mexican firm Agroindustrias Unidas de Mexico SA and Virginia-based Smithfield Foods Inc.

Journalism (liberalism) at its finest. Big evil American corps started the flu!!!! We should tax them.

 

[Acanthus]

We have nothing to fear, if you play Pandemic 2 with these settings you lose rather quickly.

Therefore, i declare the world safe.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: IGBT
when the flu originated in hong kong, it was call the hong kong flu. How come this isn't called the mexican flu since it orig.in mexico??

Because then it would be racist.

 

[xenolith]

Only 7 swine flu deaths, not 152, says WHO

 

[sciwizam]

Well, WHO just raised the Pandemic Alert level to 5.

Phase 5 is characterized by human-to-human spread of the virus into at least two countries in one WHO region. While most countries will not be affected at this stage, the declaration of Phase 5 is a strong signal that a pandemic is imminent and that the time to finalize the organization, communication, and implementation of the planned mitigation measures is short.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: sciwizam
Well, WHO just raised the Pandemic Alert level to 5.

Phase 5 is characterized by human-to-human spread of the virus into at least two countries in one WHO region. While most countries will not be affected at this stage, the declaration of Phase 5 is a strong signal that a pandemic is imminent and that the time to finalize the organization, communication, and implementation of the planned mitigation measures is short.

Well that means the media is going to turn it up to 11 in response

 

[blackangst1]

First confirmed case in Phoenix was just reported. An 8 year old girl.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: sciwizam
Well, WHO just raised the Pandemic Alert level to 5.

Phase 5 is characterized by human-to-human spread of the virus into at least two countries in one WHO region. While most countries will not be affected at this stage, the declaration of Phase 5 is a strong signal that a pandemic is imminent and that the time to finalize the organization, communication, and implementation of the planned mitigation measures is short.

We don't know WHO.. you tell us WHO is raising it to 5.

 

[xenolith]

Originally posted by: sciwizam
Well, WHO just raised the Pandemic Alert level to 5.

Phase 5 is characterized by human-to-human spread of the virus into at least two countries in one WHO region. While most countries will not be affected at this stage, the declaration of Phase 5 is a strong signal that a pandemic is imminent and that the time to finalize the organization, communication, and implementation of the planned mitigation measures is short.

By your own source, it looks like this pandemic level is based on where the virus is spreading, not on death tolls.

 

[sciwizam]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: sciwizam
Well, WHO just raised the Pandemic Alert level to 5.

Phase 5 is characterized by human-to-human spread of the virus into at least two countries in one WHO region. While most countries will not be affected at this stage, the declaration of Phase 5 is a strong signal that a pandemic is imminent and that the time to finalize the organization, communication, and implementation of the planned mitigation measures is short.

We don't know WHO.. you tell us WHO is raising it to 5.

World Health Organization