Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag Tees

[CADsortaGUY]

I'm Italian-American, and that's how I've describe myself for as long as I can remember. How is this a liberal thing to do? It's fairly common from what I know. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging your families heritage.

You need to chillout.

It's complete liberal BS. There is no hyphen in American. You either are or aren't American. Am I a Scottish/English-American? Hell no. I'm an American. Do I still know my heritage - sure, but I don't need to hyphenate anything to acknowledge where my family used to live decades/centuries ago.

 

[ElFenix]

yet more evidence that 2/3 of school administrators should be fired and not replaced.

 

[nick1985]

It's complete liberal BS. There is no hyphen in American. You either are or aren't American. Am I a Scottish/English-American? Hell no. I'm an American. Do I still know my heritage - sure, but I don't need to hyphenate anything to acknowledge where my family used to live decades/centuries ago.

rofl. It is retarded to walk around saying shit like that. I'm an Irish-American...

 

[dainthomas]

Meh, that's what they call themselves.

And they're probably illegal, so they're not actually American anyway. Mexican-American or Mexican seems appropriate.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

wrong. those kids wear American flag attire nearly everyday to school the 5th of may was just another day to them. They DID NOT wake the morning of the 5th and say "hey its cinco de meyo,lets start a bunch of shit with the spicks and wear American flags to school"

How do you know this--that they wear clothes with the flag on it everyday?

 

[Patranus]

Here is the principle himself!

I think if he had a crown he'd look like the Burger King. Do you suppose...?

The decision was made by the assistant principal not the principal.
The school district and the principal have stated that the vice principals actions were wrong.

Shockingly, the assistant principal's name is Miguel Rodriguez.

 

[OutHouse]

How do you know this--that they wear clothes with the flag on it everyday?

i said nearly everyday... i found it on one of the local paper websites. several students posted in the comments stating as such. plus the news interviews with the kids parents have also stated as such.

 

[Infohawk]

It's complete liberal BS. There is no hyphen in American. You either are or aren't American. Am I a Scottish/English-American? Hell no. I'm an American. Do I still know my heritage - sure, but I don't need to hyphenate anything to acknowledge where my family used to live decades/centuries ago.

I'm with CSG here, except I don't think it's a liberal thing. Ultimately, one is American or not.

There are actually people that are dual-nationals. You may have a problem with that but they are the true Italian-Americans or Irish-Americans. Keep in mind real Europeans and Africans don't see their American counterparts as true Europeans or Africans.

 

[Infohawk]

It maybe so, however those punks wore American flag bandannas hinting it as a defiance/inciting hates/violent, and as said by my previous post...turf war.

I do agree that the youngsters were acting in defiance (I see nothing to suggest they were being violent). Maybe that's because they don't feel like watching Mexicans impose their culture in America? Being defiantly American should not be an issue in America. Attacking Americanness in America is the problem.

The actions and reactions by the Mexicans (I don't think they deserve a hyphen) show a complete lack of shame or restraint at imposing their culture in America. Again, I really don't think this is a problem with other immigrant communities.

 

[Carmen813]

I'm with CSG here, except I don't think it's a liberal thing. Ultimately, one is American or not.

There are actually people that are dual-nationals. You may have a problem with that but they are the true Italian-Americans or Irish-Americans. Keep in mind real Europeans and Africans don't see their American counterparts as true Europeans or Africans.

I just don't see what all the hub-bub is about. I especially do not see this as anything to do with being a liberal or conservative. Hell, most of my family are conservatives and describe themselves in the same exact way that I do.

It has nothing to do with disparaging the U.S. For me, it's simply a way of saying "I'm an American of Italian Descent."

Suppose this is just another opinion CSG has that I won't really be able to understand.

 

[Infohawk]

I just don't see what all the hub-bub is about. I especially do not see this as anything to do with being a liberal or conservative. Hell, most of my family are conservatives and describe themselves in the same exact way that I do.

It has nothing to do with disparaging the U.S. For me, it's simply a way of saying "I'm an American of Italian Descent."

Suppose this is just another opinion CSG has that I won't really be able to understand.

For most people, I believe CSG for example, the hyphen annoys them because it puts forward some sort of parity between your Italian and American identity. As if they are equally important, when they shouldn't be. You should be American first and foremost.

For me, I get annoyed because genuine Americans (of Italian or African descent for example) like to pretend they are still part of the old world group. They really don't. An "Italian-American" has very little in common with modern Italians in Italy. Same with "African-Americans." To me it's another manifestation of American ignorance about the world. They don't even understand how American they really are.

But all this is getting very off-topic...

 

[Perknose]

sheesh you liberals

You need to chillout.

Sadly, I don't think that's ever going to happen. CAD is just one of those self-blinded, perpetually angry types made unnecessarily primitive and stupid by the 24/7 demands of his simplistic partisan bigotry.

There are plenty of these types on all sides of the political spectrum, and far too many clog up this forum, but it is the price we who run ATPN proudly pay in the service of our very best attempt at providing a crucible of ideas with true freedom of speech.

I suspect that many are just teens and post-teens feeling their oats and are truly unaware how ridiculously shallow their "contributions" are here.

And, yes, a select few might just be salt oppression obsessed relative intellectual lightweights (j/k, I keed, I make the funny), but the real tragedy of CAD is that he is actually fairly bright.

Ah well . . . and so it goes!

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Sadly, I don't think that's ever going to happen. CAD is just one of those self-blinded, perpetually angry types made unnecessarily primitive and stupid by the 24/7 demands of his simplistic partisan bigotry.

There are plenty of these types on all sides of the political spectrum, and far too many clog up this forum, but it is the price we who run ATPN proudly pay in the service of our very best attempt at providing a crucible of ideas with true freedom of speech.

I suspect that many are just teens and post-teens feeling their oats and are truly unaware how ridiculously shallow their "contributions" are here.

And, yes, a select few might just be salt oppression obsessed relative intellectual lightweights (j/k, I keed, I make the funny), but the real tragedy of CAD is that he is actually fairly bright.

Ah well . . . and so it goes!

Ah perknose, been looking in the mirror lately? Is that why you are projecting?
I'm and optimist - always have been and only in a rare instance do I think someone or something is beyond help. There is no anger here, just the expression of sadness that the system is so messed up that people think it's normal/OK to hyphenate America when they and their families have been here for generations. I could understand a 1st or 2nd generation American to do such things as they may not feel fully integrated but really? Italian-American? Are you serious? How many immigrants from Italy each year? Sheesh.

Anywho, keep wallowing in your ignorance if you must...

 

[palehorse]

I find it is a disgrace, that the American flag was use on a pair of tacky short that one of the punk had on, and I'm not an American.

That much is obvious...

 

[Anubis]

I'm Italian-American, and that's how I've describe myself for as long as I can remember. How is this a liberal thing to do? It's fairly common from what I know. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging your families heritage.

You need to chillout.

if you were born in the US then yes it is wrong. the only people who are truly a XXX-American are those born someplace else who immigrate to the US legally

also i agree with this

It's complete liberal BS. There is no hyphen in American. You either are or aren't American. Am I a Scottish/English-American? Hell no. I'm an American. Do I still know my heritage - sure, but I don't need to hyphenate anything to acknowledge where my family used to live decades/centuries ago.

 

[Modelworks]

If someone is offended by having to look at the American flag whether it is on a shirt, tattoo , bumper sticker, or a flag flying on a pole then I have the solution

The door is that way -------------->
GTFO

 

[Jaskalas]

I could understand a 1st or 2nd generation American to do such things as they may not feel fully integrated but really? Italian-American? Are you serious? How many immigrants from Italy each year? Sheesh.

I know an old Italian American who immigrated here. Like other Italians, he came here legally which sets Italians above the filth crossing our southern border.

Immigrants of the past have nothing to do with the invasion today.

 

[cubby1223]

It really gets annoying being tolerant of others, when they refuse to be tolerant of us. Would a school kick out students wearing the American Flag on a shirt on Bastille Day? Would we kick out Mexicans who wear the Mexican Flag on July 4?

Sorry, the hyper-sensitive p.c. crap is out of control. And it is sickening that _everything_ is being politicized. Not even sports is safe from this crap...


Apparently this problem at this school is growing and police had to be called on location today...

 

[Jaskalas]

Sorry, the hyper-sensitive p.c. crap is out of control. And it is sickening that _everything_ is being politicized. Not even sports is safe from this crap...

Two opposing forces occupying the same space. The result is inevitable.

 

[coloumb]

Since when is May 5th considered a holiday? Unless it's a federal or state recognized holiday - they can go fuck themselves into their own little illegal pit of hell.

Who cares if they purposely wore clothing with the American Flag on may 5th - they have every right to do so. Does this mean they shouldn't wear the same clothing on Canadian Boxing day? Or MLK day? Or Chinese New year?

How about the authorities make a surprise visit to see how many of those bastards [and their parents] are here legally...

 

[VirtualLarry]

It's just amazing that they have the audacity to do this when Mexico is a complete shit hole. Do they purposefully want to turn this country into a shit hole too?

Look not further than certain areas of Cali.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Wow. That principal really dropped the ball, out of short term expediency and fear.

The "teaching opportunity" here would have been for the teachers and school administration to have sat down with the Mexican-American kids and have helped them to understand that there is NO day when the flag of their country, America, stands for disrespect to any American's "cultural heritage", including theirs, and that freedom of expression, one of the great "cultural heritages" of the United States of America, means freedom of expression for all, no exceptions and includes them.

great post! I agree. Hell, I would even support the act of those kids of mexican descent wearing a mexican flag t-shirt on 4th of july. Not popular, but this is America, and we have freedom of speech here.

 

[VirtualLarry]

How about the authorities make a surprise visit to see how many of those bastards [and their parents] are here legally...

If only this were to happen in ARizona..

 

[shiner]

Look not further than certain areas of Cali.

There's a large section of East Tulsa that has turned into a hispanic hell hole where even the police fear to tread.

 

[palehorse]

Apparently this problem at this school is growing and police had to be called on location today...

Got link?