Street Fighter 4 out for PC tomorrow

[purbeast0]

would anyone have any interest in some kind of tourney for sf4?

 

[Dorkenstein]

I don't know about a tourney but I'd be willing to play regular games with people.

 

[Dorkenstein]

I just noticed something. In the practice room command lists, it says that you need to be facing right for the commands to work. What happens if you're facing left? Not that I can pull any of them off anyway, just wondering.

 

[NinjaCat]

just reverse the direction, if the command is like down forward attack when facing right, it's like down other direction attack when facing left, I have noticed that I can only pull off my supers and ultras consistently when I'm facing the opponent in one direction, whether it's facing left or right depending on the character.

 

[Dorkenstein]

Yeah, I'm using my keyboard, so the joystick instructions are kind of confusing in-game. Thanks.

 

[fatpat268]

Originally posted by: fatpat268

Originally posted by: Dangerer

Originally posted by: fatpat268
I'm currently playing with the pitiful 360 controller. I never actually understood why the dpad was bad for fighting games until now. I can't even reliably do a quarter circle forward without jumping. I've been resorting to the keyboard more and more lately for characters that use the quarter circle in their attacks a lot.

One type of character I just don't understand are the charge characters. I mean, I understand them and I can do the moves, but it seems like you'd have to be pretty damn good to get some of these moves off in a match.

But hopefully my control woes will be fixed because I bought a TE Fightstick from buy.com for $125. It'll be here monday.

The game was definitely made to be played using a traditional arcade stick, but be prepared to be frustrated for at 10-20 hours of play before you adapt even marginally to the arcade stick. My advice is to stick with it and hit up training mode for 10-15 minutes anytime before playing to practice getting those motions down. Turn the volume up and look at your hands to while going through the special moves motions to verify your doing the motions correctly and your hands are in sync.

Oh, I'm already generally frustrated

I can't win consistently on ranked matches, and I know this won't change that in the near future. But it will give me room to improve, whereas the 360 controller really wont.

Oooh, yea, I see what you mean now. Sometimes my hand and mind just arent coordinated.

It'd be better if the stick was on the right, since I'm right handedk but it's just something I'll get used to. I've noticed though, you have less oppurtunity to button mash with the stick and you have to be more deliberate with your moves.

 

[purbeast0]

if anyone wants to see, as of right now my replay is 16 on the leaderboards

 

[Dorkenstein]

When the moves list shows the joystick being moved to the corner, does that mean if I have a keyboard I need to press two directional keys at once? It keeps looking like I need something besides a keyboard, as much as I dislike considering it.

 

[aceO07]

I finally got the game. The SF4 fightstick (SE) isn't that good. Some buttons are VERY sensitive. I glide my finger over the med kick button and it activates. It probably only moved 1mm. I will have to swap all the parts out for sanwa parts.

I could play just fine on the keyboard, BUT it won't me use the 'home' or 'end' keys. Home key was mapped to windows live, but I mapped it to something else. It still won't let me use the key. Also my keyboard doesn't let me send 2 keys at the same time, I need to set up separate key for throws.

Overall, the game is pretty good and smooth. It does seem like it has issues with my cheapo graphics card though. It will freeze after 10 minutes, pause the game, flicker to full black screen then back to normal (windowed) and resume play. Weird.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: aceO07
I finally got the game. The SF4 fightstick (SE) isn't that good. Some buttons are VERY sensitive. I glide my finger over the med kick button and it activates. It probably only moved 1mm. I will have to swap all the parts out for sanwa parts.

I could play just fine on the keyboard, BUT it won't me use the 'home' or 'end' keys. Home key was mapped to windows live, but I mapped it to something else. It still won't let me use the key. Also my keyboard doesn't let me send 2 keys at the same time, I need to set up separate key for throws.

Overall, the game is pretty good and smooth. It does seem like it has issues with my cheapo graphics card though. It will freeze after 10 minutes, pause the game, flicker to full black screen then back to normal (windowed) and resume play. Weird.

heh dude, sanwa parts are EXTREMELY sensitive. that issue you explained in your first paragraph is exactly what i did not like when i first switched to sanwa (i was strictly Happ until about 3 months ago). but now that I am used to it, i like sanwa A LOT more than happ. however, just a warning, sanwa buttons are EXTREMELY sensitive, to the point where you can literally just touch it and it activates.

 

[Dorkenstein]

My keyboard doesn't seem to send 2 keys at the same time either, for some reason. Now I either need to dump money into a stick or gamepad. Or a keyboard that supports more key presses. This game seems to be an expensive whim at the moment.

 

[aceO07]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
heh dude, sanwa parts are EXTREMELY sensitive. that issue you explained in your first paragraph is exactly what i did not like when i first switched to sanwa (i was strictly Happ until about 3 months ago). but now that I am used to it, i like sanwa A LOT more than happ. however, just a warning, sanwa buttons are EXTREMELY sensitive, to the point where you can literally just touch it and it activates.

Thanks for the warning. I guess I'll have to do a bit more research.

It was driving me crazy since I like to lay my hand over the buttons and push when I need to. I guess when I'm moving the joystick it twitches my other hand and the button gets brushed lightly. I got medium kicks every few seconds if I wasn't extra careful.

I'm not too familiar with the curved button layout, so I like to have my hand over it and get the basic feel so I know where all the buttons are. I may just swap the extra sensitive button with a button that I don't use.

 

[aceO07]

Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
My keyboard doesn't seem to send 2 keys at the same time either, for some reason. Now I either need to dump money into a stick or gamepad. Or a keyboard that supports more key presses. This game seems to be an expensive whim at the moment.

Mine is a really old wireless logitech keyboard. I can send ctrl/alt/shift + any key.. but not really any other combination.

I really wanted to use the insert/home/pgup, delete/end/pgdn keys as my punch/kick buttons, but stupid game won't let me use the home/end keys for some reason. They must have hardcoded those keys so they can't be used.

 

[Dangerer]

Yeah the stock buttons on the SE are noticeably stiffer than Sanwa. I only own sticks for the 360, but I play casuals with some guys on PS3 set ups where I'm sometimes forced to use a stock SE. I pretty much whiff a ton of attacks from not pressing down the buttons hard enough lol.

 

[wheresmybacon]

Long story short here: I sent the entire bundle back to Amazon, and they sent me another one.

I plug in my *new* controller, and not only does this one also not work, it's TOTALLY dead. The home button doesn't light up at all. I tried on several other PC's and the result was the same.

I'm all ready to send this 2nd bundle back to Amazon, when I go by Best Buy today on my way home. For the hell of it, I pick up a Chun Li controller of the same kind (in the bundle).

I get home, plug it in, it downloads the drivers automatically and works without a hitch.

Cliffs:

Ordered bundle from Amazon and they shipped a bad controller
Sent it back and they sent me another bad controller
Bought a controller of the same type @ Best Buy and it's working.

I'll never buy another madcatz controller.

 

[fatpat268]

Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
When the moves list shows the joystick being moved to the corner, does that mean if I have a keyboard I need to press two directional keys at once? It keeps looking like I need something besides a keyboard, as much as I dislike considering it.

A hadouken, for example, is just down, right, punch. That's it. A shoryuken (dragon punch) on a keyboard will usually work as Right, Down, Right (It's really Right, Down, Down-Right... but the game doesn't make that clear).

Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
My keyboard doesn't seem to send 2 keys at the same time either, for some reason. Now I either need to dump money into a stick or gamepad. Or a keyboard that supports more key presses. This game seems to be an expensive whim at the moment.

That's odd. What kind of keyboard are you using? Can you jump diagonally?

 

[reallyscrued]

Sorry to necro this thread (was it really dead though?) but has anyone noticed the CPU bullshits in Arcade mode sometimes? For some reason, my opponents can pull off super combos and ultra combos without their revenge or EX meters being even close to full.

Very frustrating.

 

[Sureshot324]

Originally posted by: fatpat268

Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
When the moves list shows the joystick being moved to the corner, does that mean if I have a keyboard I need to press two directional keys at once? It keeps looking like I need something besides a keyboard, as much as I dislike considering it.

A hadouken, for example, is just down, right, punch. That's it. A shoryuken (dragon punch) on a keyboard will usually work as Right, Down, Right (It's really Right, Down, Down-Right... but the game doesn't make that clear).

Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
My keyboard doesn't seem to send 2 keys at the same time either, for some reason. Now I either need to dump money into a stick or gamepad. Or a keyboard that supports more key presses. This game seems to be an expensive whim at the moment.

That's odd. What kind of keyboard are you using? Can you jump diagonally?

Not sure it's the case with SF4 since I'm playing with a game pad, but other street fighter games require you to do the diagonal when doing quarter circles. So you have to go down, down-right, right. If you skip the diagonal it won't work. With a keyboard you have to make sure you push right before you let go of down, and this is why I had such a hard time getting used to using keyboard, especially for double quarter circles and half circles. Not that a game pad is much better.

 

[fatpat268]

Originally posted by: Sureshot324

Originally posted by: fatpat268

Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
When the moves list shows the joystick being moved to the corner, does that mean if I have a keyboard I need to press two directional keys at once? It keeps looking like I need something besides a keyboard, as much as I dislike considering it.

A hadouken, for example, is just down, right, punch. That's it. A shoryuken (dragon punch) on a keyboard will usually work as Right, Down, Right (It's really Right, Down, Down-Right... but the game doesn't make that clear).

Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
My keyboard doesn't seem to send 2 keys at the same time either, for some reason. Now I either need to dump money into a stick or gamepad. Or a keyboard that supports more key presses. This game seems to be an expensive whim at the moment.

That's odd. What kind of keyboard are you using? Can you jump diagonally?

Not sure it's the case with SF4 since I'm playing with a game pad, but other street fighter games require you to do the diagonal when doing quarter circles. So you have to go down, down-right, right. If you skip the diagonal it won't work. With a keyboard you have to make sure you push right before you let go of down, and this is why I had such a hard time getting used to using keyboard, especially for double quarter circles and half circles. Not that a game pad is much better.

I think SF4 is a lot more lenient with it's inputs than previous street fighter games.

But any rate, to do a hadouken on the keyboard, it's just down, forward + punch ( down, right + (a,s,d,or f)). Try it out, you can switch from your gamepad to your keyboard without changing any settings.

 

[minmaster]

1/2 off steam sale

 

[minmaster]

anybody know if keyboard macros are usable for this game? people with macro capable keyboards then would have a huge advantage being able to pull off moves with great accuracy.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Good god this game is hard. Well actually Seth is the only problem. I can play through Arcade Mode up to him on any difficulty level, but he's redonkulous even on medium. I've heard some people say that they can beat him with ease once they figure him out. Well I know more or less what he's going to do at any time, but I don't know what to do about it. I'm also playing through the challenge mode with Ken and the combos the game expects you to pull off in the hard levels require near superhuman speed and accuracy. I can't believe people actually do that stuff in real fights. To be fair, I'm already doing stuff I wouldn't have believed possible just because I'm practicing so much though.

 

[pennylane]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
Good god this game is hard. Well actually Seth is the only problem. I can play through Arcade Mode up to him on any difficulty level, but he's redonkulous even on medium. I've heard some people say that they can beat him with ease once they figure him out. Well I know more or less what he's going to do at any time, but I don't know what to do about it. I'm also playing through the challenge mode with Ken and the combos the game expects you to pull off in the hard levels require near superhuman speed and accuracy. I can't believe people actually do that stuff in real fights. To be fair, I'm already doing stuff I wouldn't have believed possible just because I'm practicing so much though.

It's been awhile since I played through the computer, but from what I remember against Seth...
Never jump at him except at the beginning of the round. At the beginning of the round you often can get away with jumping at him for a combo, often enough that I'd try it every time. But after that, he'll just uppercut you. Generally, I think you can approach him by walking towards him, blocking carefully, until you're a few steps away from him. You should be close enough to hit him with a crouching roundhouse (hard kick) or something, but not close enough that he can pile drive you. Then you should eventually sucker him into doing long fierce punches (hard punch) or lightning legs. Block either of those, and then you can do a crouching roundhouse or any quick attack. The crouching roundhouse is nice because it knocks him down and resets the situation.

That's really it I think. If it seems silly to just do that against the computer the whole time, that's why everybody says to play against human competition only.

Ken's hard challenges are among the hardest in the game, IMO. Some of the other characters have easier hard challenges.

 

[minmaster]

again, does anybody know if it's okay to use keyboard with macros to pull of tough moves?

 

[xCxStylex]

Ok? What you think you're going to get banned? lawl.

Either way, I swear some of these people have program pads or some shit because they never fail or fuck up moves.