Stacey Irvine, 17, collapses after eating only McDonald's chicken nuggets since age 2

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bfdd

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Yeah she's cute and looks reasonably fit, for now, but at that age, you aren't going to see the problem yet. If she were to continue with that sort of diet into her 30's, she'd turn into a blimp.

I would think that the problem here is with the parents. I don't care how obstinate the kid is. You can't let your child eat only fast food 24/7. It's not like a child has any money to buy food for themselves. Just tell them you either eat better foods or you starve.

Edit: I recommend the documentary Supersize Me for a rather hair raising account of a vegan who decides to eat nothing but McDonalds for a month, and what happens as a result.

- wolf

I'm sorry wolf, but I'm calling straight utter fucking bullshit on your fucking first paragraph. Sorry, but that's against the grain to everything Americans have been taught about health and goes against reality which shows childhood obesity is on the rise. Also Supersize Me is a TERRIBLE fucking documentary. You are so uninformed/misinformed that you really should just bow out.

Fact is Americans have been told for the last 20 or so years that eating fast food turns you into this
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We have said the same thing about it causing children to look like this.
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It just doesn't fucking happen and if you want to watch a better documentary, one that will actually present some educational material watch Fathead, which is a response to the piece of garbage you recommended.
 

chucky2

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It's obvious that you were an abused child who still is a child.

You need help!

I was actually abused, verbally, as a kid. But that has nothing to do with this topic. Loving your kids means making sure they grow up right. Growing up right doesn't mean getting your way and having the world revolve around you, nor getting your way when you throw a tantrum. We've all seen the results of that type of parenting, and it's in no way, undebatably, a good result.

Chuck
 

Gooberlx2

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Seems like a scare story against Mcdonald's

Not really. Anyone with half a brain should understand that eating only McNuggets for 15 years is a fucking awful idea and destined for catastrophe. Her parents have utterly failed here.
 

bfdd

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don't post this non-sense "oh you don't know how hard it is to feed a kid" bullshit, i was a kid once too i remember not getting my way waah waah it sucked so fucking what? how are some of you such weak willed individuals that you think it is ok to just cave into a crying child? i'd rather let my child starve to death than let them boss me around on what they should be eating.
 

waggy

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err this is the parents fault. At 2 you control what they eat and how the childs eating habits will be.

the parents fucked up. it is there fault. sad story actually.
 
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I was actually abused, verbally, as a kid. But that has nothing to do with this topic. Loving your kids means making sure they grow up right. Growing up right doesn't mean getting your way and having the world revolve around you, nor getting your way when you throw a tantrum. We've all seen the results of that type of parenting, and it's in no way, undebatably, a good result.

Chuck

It has everything to do with this topic, you just don't get it.

Loving your kids means providing for them and helping them, not abusing them as you've been taught.

I've been taught the same thing, my parents threw me out onto the street when i was 13 years old to fend for myself and before that i was beaten, burned and forced to eat things that made me vomit.

It's not like i don't get it, it's just that no child should ever have to suffer abuse, EVER, tantrums or not.
 

Gooberlx2

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don't post this non-sense "oh you don't know how hard it is to feed a kid" bullshit, i was a kid once too i remember not getting my way waah waah it sucked so fucking what? how are some of you such weak willed individuals that you think it is ok to just cave into a crying child? i'd rather let my child starve to death than let them boss me around on what they should be eating.

I think people might be upset about the "...or wear it" part. In my house, if I refused to eat what was served, I had to remain at the dinner table until either a) I ate it, or b) it was bedtime and I'd go to bed without dinner. Quite likely, it would be served as leftovers the next day too.

Sometimes parents make compromises on dinner for the sake of sanity; but the lack of will point certainly seems to stand in an extreme case like this.
 
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err this is the parents fault. At 2 you control what they eat and how the childs eating habits will be.

the parents fucked up. it is there fault. sad story actually.

Do you know how you can tell that someone is a parent...

Even those of us who are decent parents are not perfect though.

My daughter is a better parent to Nova than i ever was to her, but if you'd ask her she'd tell you that she learned how to take care of her from me.

God my head hurts tonight...
 

chucky2

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It has everything to do with this topic, you just don't get it.

Loving your kids means providing for them and helping them, not abusing them as you've been taught.

I've been taught the same thing, my parents threw me out onto the street when i was 13 years old to fend for myself and before that i was beaten, burned and forced to eat things that made me vomit.

It's not like i don't get it, it's just that no child should ever have to suffer abuse, EVER, tantrums or not.

It has nothing to do with this topic. Making your kid eat a balanced diet for their developing life is not abuse. If they don't like that, it's your job as a parent to make them do something they don't like. Period. End of story. Non-negotiable. Some kids will happily munch down the liver and lima beans you've decided to make for dinner that night. Some kids will whine a little, but, eat after being prompted. And some kids will decide to have a meltdown to try and get their way - their way being, not eating what's for dinner that night. It's your job as a parent to see they eat, not see that they can whine. Do your F'ing job. Without bending to their will because it gets you off the hook from their tantrum. Unreal...
 

waggy

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I think people might be upset about the "...or wear it" part. In my house, if I refused to eat what was served, I had to remain at the dinner table until either a) I ate it, or b) it was bedtime and I'd go to bed without dinner. Quite likely, it would be served as leftovers the next day too.

The lack of will point certainly stands in an extreme case like this.

exactly. we had the same rules growing up. we have the same rules in my house.

while we do try to make meals i know they will eat they have to try everything every time its made. both kids will eat every night they know better to try to claim they aren't hungry (wich is fine they don't get anything until morning and considering we have dinner at 5pm it makes for a long time between meals).

bottom line is i am the parent. I know what foods they would choose if they got the choice every night. I am not willing to feed them shit every night. they need a good meal. So it is MY job to make sure they get that.
 
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It has nothing to do with this topic. Making your kid eat a balanced diet for their developing life is not abuse. If they don't like that, it's your job as a parent to make them do something they don't like. Period. End of story. Non-negotiable. Some kids will happily munch down the liver and lima beans you've decided to make for dinner that night. Some kids will whine a little, but, eat after being prompted. And some kids will decide to have a meltdown to try and get their way - their way being, not eating what's for dinner that night. It's your job as a parent to see they eat, not see that they can whine. Do your F'ing job. Without bending to their will because it gets you off the hook from their tantrum. Unreal...

See, this is where it's easily understood that you are not a parent because if you were, you'd be a fuckup as a parent.

None of what you propose is ok and you can't force children to eat or starve, once you have a child (heaven forbid) you'll know that.

As it is though, you should NEVER procreate.

I think, that as my family is doing just fine, with two children and one grand child, your advice is better fit for the trailer trash that are your neighbours.
 

waggy

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Even those of us who are decent parents are not perfect though.

My daughter is a better parent to Nova than i ever was to her, but if you'd ask her she'd tell you that she learned how to take care of her from me.

oh no i'm not perfect. i know i have made mistakes with my kids. i worry i do with her gymnastics.


frankly having a daughter that is a better parent then you were is nto something to be ashamed of. in fact ain't that part of the ultimate goal as parent?
 
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exactly. we had the same rules growing up. we have the same rules in my house.

while we do try to make meals i know they will eat they have to try everything every time its made. both kids will eat every night they know better to try to claim they aren't hungry (wich is fine they don't get anything until morning and considering we have dinner at 5pm it makes for a long time between meals).

bottom line is i am the parent. I know what foods they would choose if they got the choice every night. I am not willing to feed them shit every night. they need a good meal. So it is MY job to make sure they get that.

I made a mistake when i called you a good parent, you are nothing of the sort.

A good parent would compromise rather than to make the children eat something they do not like.

Considering the tenths of thousands of meals that are nutritious and balanced, any parent can find ten that would suffice, you are just a lazy parent who takes for granted that while society evolved you as a parent shouldn't.

That is just horrible parenting on your part.
 

WelshBloke

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don't post this non-sense "oh you don't know how hard it is to feed a kid" bullshit, i was a kid once too i remember not getting my way waah waah it sucked so fucking what? how are some of you such weak willed individuals that you think it is ok to just cave into a crying child? i'd rather let my child starve to death than let them boss me around on what they should be eating.

Is this thing working?


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oh no i'm not perfect. i know i have made mistakes with my kids. i worry i do with her gymnastics.


frankly having a daughter that is a better parent then you were is nto something to be ashamed of. in fact ain't that part of the ultimate goal as parent?

Thank you for those words and i suppose it is the ultimate goal to raise your child to be a better parent than you were.

You'll probably regret saying that given my last post, but i stand by it.

You're free to hate me for saying it but i still stand by it, it's not something i'll ever back down from, most of it is based on my own experience.

As kind as you seem to be, and as loving as a parent as you seem to be... i don't get it.
 

waggy

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I made a mistake when i called you a good parent, you are nothing of the sort.

A good parent would compromise rather than to make the children eat something they do not like.

Considering the tenths of thousands of meals that are nutritious and balanced, any parent can find ten that would suffice, you are just a lazy parent who takes for granted that while society evolved you as a parent shouldn't.

That is just horrible parenting on your part.

lol you are a idiot.

A parents job is to teach them and guide them. part of that is teaching them to eat a balanced meal. Children don't always want to. IT is my job to guide them and if need be force them

Kids don't want to go to the doctor or dentist either. Should i not take them? or should i force them to get the shots they nee? should i force them to go to school?

a parents job is to guide them. the ultimate goal is they are healthy not just in body but also in mind. My kids eat healthy meals. even if its something they don't like. why should the rest of us have to eat what they want every night? live is about choices, and compromises. they learn both.

to let the child dictate what they eat is idiotic. A sign of a bad parent is one that will not stand up to the child.

lol "bad parent" yeah fuck you. you ignorant pile of shit. considering you don't know what a good parent is its rather laughable.
 

bfdd

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Is this thing working?


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Or you just don't know how little tolerance I have for that kind of bull shit. It isn't abuse if they refuse to eat food, they live in MY world and I define what food is, not them.

ps. waggy sounds like he has his shit down. JOS sounds like a soccer mom. pathetic.
 

Deeko

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Edit: I recommend the documentary Supersize Me for a rather hair raising account of a vegan who decides to eat nothing but McDonalds for a month, and what happens as a result.

Actually, Supersize Me is a "hair raising" documentary about a guy who goes from one diet to a drastically different diet, all the while completely gorging himself in the process. It has little to do with McDonald's or its impact on health. It also conveniently ignores that exactly what the doctor said would happen in the beginning (a sharp spike in negative reaction followed by a leveling-out) happened....he acted like the improvement in the last week was an anomaly in the data.

That movie was terrible, and anyone who actually treats it as a good source of nutritional knowledge is very, very misinformed.
 

bfdd

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He's American, they consider their children to be as property over there.

They even have laws that protect the parents when they beat their children...

I shit you not...

I do not support child abuse, but I do not support children running their parents lives as well. I tend to lean more towards Eastern thinking when it comes to children, even though I was never raised as such.
 

waggy

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Actually, Supersize Me is a "hair raising" documentary about a guy who goes from one diet to a drastically different diet, all the while completely gorging himself in the process. It has little to do with McDonald's or its impact on health. It also conveniently ignores that exactly what the doctor said would happen in the beginning (a sharp spike in negative reaction followed by a leveling-out) happened....he acted like the improvement in the last week was an anomaly in the data.

That movie was terrible, and anyone who actually treats it as a good source of nutritional knowledge is very, very misinformed.

hate to agree.

going form one extreme to the other is not going to be healthy. not to mention only a idiot wouldnt know that eating McDonalds super sized meals 3 times a day and stopping his excercise program is not going to be good.

McDonalds is fine. but please please only eat it in moderation. anymore the only thing i eat is the fries. yumm for some reason they are amazing. but damn so much salt..ugh
 

BoberFett

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A good parent would compromise rather than to make the children eat something they do not like.

Parenting fail.

Sometimes you do things just because you have to. Do you compromise with the electric company if you don't like paying the bill and just pay half? Do you compromise with your boss and come in every other day?

Besides, we all know kids say they don't like something they've never tried. I can't tell you how many things I had to get my daughter to eat that she refused at first, and after trying it now she loves it. If I hadn't forced her to eat them, she'd still be demanding the same meal every day.

Kids are more spoiled than ever, and society is starting to see the results.