some lady just attacked my dog

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toant103

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Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: yukichigai
Originally posted by: toant103
Originally posted by: Atomicus
Was the lady too feeble to pick up the child ?

I know she had the right to defend her child, but seriously, what kind of panic can a small dog that's not even growling or barking induce in a grown adult? And enough to cause her to pick up an object and smack the dog! I'm guessing if a King Cobra was to slither next to her child, she'd probably go get a stick to smack it with instead of picking up the child and running.

No offense, but was she caucasian?

she's Middle Eastern.
Jeez, no offense but that could explain it. She's likely all uptight from the instances of racial backlash against Muslims and Middle Easterners.

Yes, she must have thought that OP was the prison guard coming with the unmuzzled dogs and broomsticks to shove up her hoohaw :roll:

i'm asian btw.
 

gopunk

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Jul 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: yukichigai
Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: yukichigai
Jeez, no offense but that could explain it. She's likely all uptight from the instances of racial backlash against Muslims and Middle Easterners.

Yes, she must have thought that OP was the prison guard coming with the unmuzzled dogs and broomsticks to shove up her hoohaw :roll:
Umm... not the idea I was going for exactly. More like she's so stressed out and paranoid over other things it's carried over into her daily life.

Not that it makes it okay. Just guessing as to why.

well some middle easterners don't like dogs. think of em as unclean.

Exactly. In a lot of mid-eastern countries, people don't generally keep dogs as pets, they are considered pests, and they are considered dangerous wild animals.

i don't think of homeless people as clean, but i don't go around pegging them with stools if they get close

and you have problems if you look at a pom and you think "dangerous wild animal"
 

Biggerhammer

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Jan 16, 2003
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Originally posted by: Blieb
Say what you will. My dog is the one thing I'd go apesh!t over. Other than him getting hurt, I have complete self control. But I'm dead serious, if someone ever kicked my dog and harmed him, they'd be bleeding to death lying in the middle of the road.

Neighbor, if your dog bit/threatened my kid, and you started getting aggressive at me about it, the best thing that could happen to you would be the cops arriving. I don't have any problem with dogs of any shape or color, but any parent is pretty much hardwired to protect his or her kids.

I fully expect that if the little dog had wandered on up under the (lawfully required) control of a leash, or been well-enough trained to walk at heel or something so that it was obviously no threat, the kid would have enjoyed petting the little doggie under the smile of his mother. A few weekends back, my son and I were in the local park and we met a black lab named Kirie who was sitting quietly with her owner. My son petter, hugged, chattered with and waved to the dog. They both had a great time. That's an ideal meeting; started passive, got friendly, parted on good terms. If the dog had started the encounter by running at him, I don't care how friendly she had looked, I would have warned her off- and if she didn't warn off - as happened with the little dog - then things would have gotten worse, with the potential for violence to the dog. I would not have enjoyed it at all but again, my kid is more important than any dog.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
If she is Middle Eastern, that EXPLAINS EVERYTHING.

I know a lot of my mom's middle eastern friends are very afraid of dogs. They would be uncomfortable even if you brought one around them on a leash. She had every right to hit your mutt if it wasn't leashed and was bothering her and her children.

being uncomfortable is not a good reason to damage someone else's property
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: gopunk
i don't think of homeless people as clean, but i don't go around pegging them with stools if they get close

and you have problems if you look at a pom and you think "dangerous wild animal"

Try to think outside the box for just a minute. It won't hurt you. Believe it or not, people from other countries/cultures see things differently. A dog is a dog to them. 4 legs, pointy teeth, probably carrying disease. It's the same way a lot of Americans feel about keeping cockroaches as pets.
 

JackBurton

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Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
If she is Middle Eastern, that EXPLAINS EVERYTHING.

I know a lot of my mom's middle eastern friends are very afraid of dogs. They would be uncomfortable even if you brought one around them on a leash. She had every right to hit your mutt if it wasn't leashed and was bothering her and her children.

Yes, stupid people should have every right to hit your dog, because...well...they're stupid.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: gopunk
i don't think of homeless people as clean, but i don't go around pegging them with stools if they get close

and you have problems if you look at a pom and you think "dangerous wild animal"

Try to think outside the box for just a minute. It won't hurt you. Believe it or not, people from other countries/cultures see things differently. A dog is a dog to them. 4 legs, pointy teeth, probably carrying disease. It's the same way a lot of Americans feel about keeping cockroaches as pets.

i believe it, but i'm not into this touchy feely respect-all-cultures thing. just because their culture has some outdated or irrational idiosyncrancies doesn't mean i'm obliged to accept it. i'm sure western culture has similar stupid stuff, those should be fixed too.

and you know what? i don't have any particular affection towards cockroaches, but if you had a pet cockroach coming towards me, and i saw you chasing it, i wouldn't freak out and start throwing crap at it.
 

Jzero

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: gopunk
i believe it, but i'm not into this touchy feely respect-all-cultures thing. just because their culture has some outdated or irrational idiosyncrancies doesn't mean i'm obliged to accept it. i'm sure western culture has similar stupid stuff, those should be fixed too.

and you know what? i don't have any particular affection towards cockroaches, but if you had a pet cockroach coming towards me, and i saw you chasing it, i wouldn't freak out and start throwing crap at it.

The point is that for those wondering why this lady was so freaked out about a dog the size of large squirrel, that's probably why. Looks harmless to us, but not to them. It doesn't matter if it's backwards, or if it should be fixed or whether or not you "accept" it. You can not accept it all you want - that doesn't change the way these people feel.
 

Bryophyte

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She obviously wasn't trying to kill your dog. She just tossed a small plastic footstool at it to keep your hyperactive pup off her kid. You talk about how her English isn't very good, but I can see by your posts that the failure to communicate well in English goes both ways. Get a better collar (try a harness this time), get her a flower, and go tell her "sorry". She probably understands that word. And when the pup gets a bit older, get some obedience lessons for him.
 

gopunk

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Jul 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: gopunk
i believe it, but i'm not into this touchy feely respect-all-cultures thing. just because their culture has some outdated or irrational idiosyncrancies doesn't mean i'm obliged to accept it. i'm sure western culture has similar stupid stuff, those should be fixed too.

and you know what? i don't have any particular affection towards cockroaches, but if you had a pet cockroach coming towards me, and i saw you chasing it, i wouldn't freak out and start throwing crap at it.

The point is that for those wondering why this lady was so freaked out about a dog the size of large squirrel, that's probably why. Looks harmless to us, but not to them. It doesn't matter if it's backwards, or if it should be fixed or whether or not you "accept" it. You can not accept it all you want - that doesn't change the way these people feel.

sorry, i guess i must have misread the meanings of the original posts
 

toant103

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Jul 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: Bryophyte
She obviously wasn't trying to kill your dog. She just tossed a small plastic footstool at it to keep your hyperactive pup off her kid. You talk about how her English isn't very good, but I can see by your posts that the failure to communicate well in English goes both ways. Get a better collar (try a harness this time), get her a flower, and go tell her "sorry". She probably understands that word. And when the pup gets a bit older, get some obedience lessons for him.

she didn't tossed, she pegged at my dog. It's over now, cops didn't come and Bruno is fine. Sleeping rightnow. Yes, i can't write that well, but the lady didn't speak English.
 

Biggerhammer

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Jan 16, 2003
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Originally posted by: yukichigai
That's what I'm saying. Unless she was holding two kids or something she should have been able to pick her child up. I think most parents would say that's their first instinct.
Uh-huh. So now, I'm holding my son while this dog has the chance to take out my ankles. Or my ballz if it can reach. Goooood idea.

Leash it, train it, or cook it. I have no objection to a well-trained dog - and even the smallest toy dog can be well-trained - but if any person is afraid for his or her child's safety, they're going to react quickly and without a lot of time to think about your dog's safety.

That said, I agree that it sucks that your dog got pegged with a stool, but I can't disagree much with the lady. People aren't by nature going to sit down and reason things out when they see the distinct possibility of their child being in needless pain.
 

yukichigai

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Originally posted by: Biggerhammer
Originally posted by: yukichigai
That's what I'm saying. Unless she was holding two kids or something she should have been able to pick her child up. I think most parents would say that's their first instinct.
Uh-huh. So now, I'm holding my son while this dog has the chance to take out my ankles. Or my ballz if it can reach. Goooood idea.
Parents value their child's well-being over their own. Besides, you can defend yourself partially with your legs. A 5-year-old can't do that. (At least not as well)
 

Shockwave

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The fact of the matter is this
1) The OP didnt have the responsibility to keep his dog properly leashed
2) The parent was simply concerned about the welfare of thier child. Be it a snake, a dog or a dinosaur, the parent has EVERY right to be concerned about the welfare of the child

In my eyes, while the situation could have been handled better, the parent is NOT the one at fault. The OP is the one who is "at fault" for the situation. Especially when you take into account all the stories of children being mauled / killed by dogs.
 

DWW

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
The fact of the matter is this
1) The OP didnt have the responsibility to keep his dog properly leashed
2) The parent was simply concerned about the welfare of thier child. Be it a snake, a dog or a dinosaur, the parent has EVERY right to be concerned about the welfare of the child

In my eyes, while the situation could have been handled better, the parent is NOT the one at fault. The OP is the one who is "at fault" for the situation. Especially when you take into account all the stories of children being mauled / killed by dogs.

"When deadly poms attack" :D
 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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Not so long ago I used to put a 5 cell maglight in my son's stoller when I walked him because there is a house we pass by that had an aggressive dog which used to jump over a 5' tall fence occasionally. I would have smacked the living crap out of that dog if it ever came at me while I was with my son. It did come after my dog a few times. Never attacked but was very aggressive, fur bristling, teeth showing and barking/growling. I actually kicked this dog a couple times once because I thought it was going to attack my dog. I would have killed it if it came at my son like that. No hesitation. Fvcking dog would have died a well deserved death. :|

Fortunately, the dogs idiot owners sold that house and moved away to terrorize some other neighborhood.
 

DPG0wnz

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All of you dog owners better remember that many people have a concealed handgun license. If your dog is running loose and approaches someone, they have the right to shoot it if they feel threatened. As for the owner that would smash your face in, they would probably walk with a limp after the altercation.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: ExcelsiorWait..you are making fun of him for having a Pom. yet you think weiner dogs are awesome?

Don't talk about dogs anymore, please. :p

wait are you dissing my wiener dog!? IF so I will come to you house and rip your head off and piss down your throat you godless commie bastard! why i hope your sister marries a wiener dog!



oh wait sorry. i just got caught up in the moment.

:beer:
 

joinT

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Jan 19, 2001
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I really can't stand people who have an irrationnal *<-sp? fear of dogs. There was a lady in my ex-gf's apartment who used to FREAK (I mean run away screaming at the top of her lungs) just seeing a dog. Any dog. My ex's dog wouldn't even be trying to sniff her or anything - just standing there. Her screaming would make him scared. Every time I just wanted to tell her he's a killer and to watch out :roll:
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: ExcelsiorWait..you are making fun of him for having a Pom. yet you think weiner dogs are awesome?

Don't talk about dogs anymore, please. :p

wait are you dissing my wiener dog!? IF so I will come to you house and rip your head off and piss down your throat you godless commie bastard! why i hope your sister marries a wiener dog!



oh wait sorry. i just got caught up in the moment.

:beer:

:confused:

You are talking to the owner of two bichon-poodle mixes. (well, my parents own them) :p Before them I had a siberian husky who died of kidney failure.

It is still dumb to make fun of a pom then think that wiener dogs are awesome, and you know it.
 

StageLeft

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I feel bad for Bruno, but I'd possibly have done the same thing. Generally owners who say "he doesn't bite" are not really to be believed. They're the same owners who refer to their little hyper dog as "he's just defending his territory". Well, I can defend mine a lot better :) If he was really close to my kid he'd probably get stooled, though I do like animals so it's a hard call.
 

toant103

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Jul 21, 2001
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thank goodness Bruno is fine now. No where in hell i'm going next to her building again. I hope the neighbor has a pitbull and just him loose on her. I know, it's kinda mean but i'm pissed when i think about it