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VulgarDisplay

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Whats up with all the homo erotic nonsense in the game? I don't have a problem with social issues like this but I don't like it being force fed down my throat in a video game. So i'm supposed to save the world but apparently my male cohort is constantly saying stuff like "are you flirting with me commander"? And then the side quest involving some dude whose husband dies.

If you're going to put this stuff in a game make it transparent, I don't want homo erotic nonsense being thrown in my face constantly. I feel like i'm being trolled by bioware, pretty sure this is the last bioware game I ever buy.

Game is also way more linear than any other ME game, apparently dumbed down for the console kids. Fool me once bioware shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. First DA2 and now this. Never again. This was also enough to make me go out and cancel my SWTOR sub. Thanks bioware. Thanks for making me realize how bioware is a shadow of its former self and a parody, you will never make a quality game like the baldurs gate titles EVER again.

The gay stuff in the game just seems forced for no reason. It doesn't bother me that much, but it just seems really forced.

As for the game being more linear than the other ME games. There was no ME game that wasn't linear so I don't see that at all.
 

Glitchny

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Really? Cool about Miranda, didn't even have the option as pure paragon.

Don't get me wrong, I overall liked the endings--I've replayed the final mission three times to see the optimal version of all three. However, there are quite a few things that leave the endings bittersweet, which is why I liked them. I didn't expect to come out of ME3 unscathed, and it works for me.

All species, even Asarii, are many centuries away from replicating mass relay tech. The crucible had its blueprint given to them and was meant to be easily built, the product of many, many, many cycles of work. That doesn't equate to being able to solve and rebuild mass relay tech. Mankind and the other species will rejoin the stars--there are multiple codex entries on mankind's FTL research--but nothing on the scale enabled by mass relays. In the meantime, you're still looking at huge recessions and multi-billion death tolls due to reliance upon out-of-system trade and basic environmental incompatibility. Makes things more interesting, and makes the post-credits ending more interesting.

As for getting the N7 ending, you ONLY get that if you:
1.) Had a NG+
2.) Imported a save.

Everything I've read says that starting a new game non-imported wont show that scene.


gotcha, i imported my save from ME2 so that must be why I had the N7 ending.
 

Glitchny

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Whats up with all the homo erotic nonsense in the game? I don't have a problem with social issues like this but I don't like it being force fed down my throat in a video game. So i'm supposed to save the world but apparently my male cohort is constantly saying stuff like "are you flirting with me commander"? And then the side quest involving some dude whose husband dies.

If you're going to put this stuff in a game make it transparent, I don't want homo erotic nonsense being thrown in my face constantly. I feel like i'm being trolled by bioware, pretty sure this is the last bioware game I ever buy.

Game is also way more linear than any other ME game, apparently dumbed down for the console kids. Fool me once bioware shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. First DA2 and now this. Never again. This was also enough to make me go out and cancel my SWTOR sub. Thanks bioware. Thanks for making me realize how bioware is a shadow of its former self and a parody, you will never make a quality game like the baldurs gate titles EVER again.

All the games are linear, every single one. The main story is a straight line with side quests around the edges. And the side missions have way more to do with the success of the mission in 3 than any of the others.

I didn't have an issue with the marine thinking I was hitting on him, but I chose mostly renegade options. Hell I even went and talked to him in the club and it wasn't about him hitting on me.

The guy in the shuttle bay is there as one of the homosexual options if you want to go that way. And it didn't force anything on me, said to go see him and
then he cries about his husband dying.
I told him that was rough and that was the end of it, never talked to him again throughout the game.

Maybe you were choosing dialog options encouraging the gay romance? It never really seemed forced on me during my play through. I'd hear random conversations where people were crying about missing their same sex partners, but also others whose hetero partners were missing. Not really sure why it's a big deal, it's not even tangentially related to the actual story. It's not like you are forced to save the universe through a gay man-love orgy.

The craziest/most entertaining romance for me was
Edi and Joker, cause that shit wrinkled my brain. I just kept encouraging it to see how far it would go.
 
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SLU Aequitas

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gotcha, i imported my save from ME2 so that must be why I had the N7 ending.

Same, I'm expecting like 90% of people did minus the reviewers.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I'd greatly prefer having the endings tied to your choices throughout the game. Having all three main options available at the end kills my replay mojo knowing that I'm going to get the same basic endings. Same vein as DE:HR. Yeah, most games don't go much further, but considering the scope of ME3, you'd think that would be the route they would go down.
 

Dankk

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Hai guys,

Just dropping in to post this:

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I am only about half way through Act I, but I somehow expected more. Maybe my expectations were just too high. The second game was all about building loyalty missions with your squad-mates. Now this game is all about doing basically the same thing with the other civilizations. So far, continually going through my mind is the thought "I have done this twice already". Maybe when we start actually fighting the reapers it will be better.

And also, maybe my mind has dimmed with time, but I thought the earlier games looked really nice. Some of the graphics look worse to me in this game than in the previous ones, primarily the running animations and the cut-scenes with the Normandy.
 

Carmen813

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Mass Effect 3 is on sale for 20% off at Greenmangaming.com, deluxe or regular edition. Go to the page for the game and it has a 20% voucher code on the right.
 

alent1234

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The movement is more realistic in this game and they had to sacrifice some texture quality on the Xbox at least. The walkthroughs on YouTube are from top of the lIne pc's and those look very good
 

Madia

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After avoiding all spoilers for the game I finished it yesterday and was extremely disappointed by the ending. I don't want to spoil it for those who haven't played it but it sucked the life out of the series for me. It's a real shame because ME2 was my favorite game of all time when it came out and I was really pumped up for the conclusion of the series. I was really enjoying most of it and planning on going back to the first and doing a complete play through of the trilogy until I saw the ending. Now I feel throughly deflated and my interest in the story has been killed by the conclusion.

If you look at the bioware social forums you'll see I'm not alone. Alot of people hate the ending and there's even a poll with 12,000+ people who want a DLC with a better ending.

It's a shame because ME3 is a really great game and the tweaks it made from ME2 worked. ME2 was criticized for it's simplified combat style and ME3 fixed that with more choices for your power allocation, weapon mods and much better environments to fight in. It's just that at the end what I cared about most were the characters I've grown to know alongside the Mass Effect universe and I wanted a resolution that addressed them. The ending I got was a huge letdown.
I was really hoping bioware would buck the trend of the previous games ending after the climatic battle and give us a long epilouge where we met up with the crew, discussed their future along with those of Shepard and the ME universe.

Despite the outrage and dissapointment of many fans the ending is obviously going to stay as it is. After it, I just have no desire to play any of the DLC or even ME3 again even though it is excellent.
 

irishScott

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Well I just finished the game, no complaints up until the endings. It's not that they're "bad" so much as it feels like they're "not worth it". Like I was ripped off for putting 10s of hours of my life into this game. Here's why:

1. There is no distinctiveness to the endings. Explosion changes color, life gets wires. Beyond that the epilogues are almost identical down to animation. This isn't multiple endings, this is the same ending with a different paint job. None of the huge differences implied by your decision are shown. In ME1 you saw the Destiny Ascension and council blow up, or not. In ME2 you blew up the collector base, or not. Here, you see a blue explosion, green explosion, or red explosion. I feel cheated.

2. The vagueness isn't just "open to interpretation", literally anything is possible, and that takes away from the weight. Bioware didn't want to provide a perfect ending? Well they fucked that up, because:

1. Reapers built mass relays.
2. Shepard gains control of reapers, and miraculously survives the process (in the best ending).
3. Shepard gets better and orders the reapers to re-build the mass relays, may take a generation or two but everything sans the citadel itself is restored.
4. Shepard uses Reaper tech and Reapers to scour the nearby cluster (because Joker could only be going at mainstream FTL), finds the Normandy, rescues Ashley and makes his contribution to the Williams family line, later retiring to a tropical island with Garrus.

There, perfect ending. And thanks to Bioware's sloppy work, there is nothing provable preventing it from happening. I don't mind grim endings, in fact I expected one, but if you're going to be grim do it right. The endings as they stand are all but meaningless.

3. The God kid is fucking stupid. His reasoning, which should be incredibly advanced, is stupid. He says it's inevitable that organics will create machines that will destroy them. Uhh... care to justify that? He's been around for millions of years, you'd think if there was a pattern he could show it rather than have us accept it at face value. Life, even synthetic life, is by nature unpredictable and he has no way of proving that his pattern would ever occur given that he never lets any of the options evolve to the point where they could try. This is most illogical. You're telling me all of Mass Effect is because some ancient AI construct had a glitch in it's logic programming?
 

StinkyPinky

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Whats up with all the homo erotic nonsense in the game? I don't have a problem with social issues like this but I don't like it being force fed down my throat in a video game. So i'm supposed to save the world but apparently my male cohort is constantly saying stuff like "are you flirting with me commander"? And then the side quest involving some dude whose husband dies.

If you're going to put this stuff in a game make it transparent, I don't want homo erotic nonsense being thrown in my face constantly. I feel like i'm being trolled by bioware, pretty sure this is the last bioware game I ever buy.

Game is also way more linear than any other ME game, apparently dumbed down for the console kids. Fool me once bioware shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. First DA2 and now this. Never again. This was also enough to make me go out and cancel my SWTOR sub. Thanks bioware. Thanks for making me realize how bioware is a shadow of its former self and a parody, you will never make a quality game like the baldurs gate titles EVER again.


Compared to Dragon Age 2, this game is subtle. Seriously, Dragon Age 2....that was a total gay fest. I think half the party was homosexual :D
 

fixbsod

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Doesn't anybody miss holstering their weapon? Running around with guns drawn all the time is silly. Additionally, the lack of a crouch action ... is this 2002 or 2012?
 

God Mode

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I can compromise most of the other issues but the camera angle breaks this game for me. As a lefty, its weird as hell for me and the character size is too big/distracts from the action.
 

Gunslinger08

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Just gave it and bought the game. Was trying to wait until it went on sale, but I really want to play it. Now I'm trying to decide whether to buy "From Ashes". I really don't want to financially support on disk/day 1 DLC, but I also don't want to miss out on anything.
 

Madia

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May 2, 2006
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Just gave it and bought the game. Was trying to wait until it went on sale, but I really want to play it. Now I'm trying to decide whether to buy "From Ashes". I really don't want to financially support on disk/day 1 DLC, but I also don't want to miss out on anything.

I got it free in the collector's edition. It contains a mission that's unlocked near the beginning of the game and a character who shed's light on the prothean empire. However, the mission is only about 45 minutes long and the character really isn't much different in battle than your other crew. There's more conversation on the ship with him than with Kazumi/Zaeed and it gives you some insights into the protheans.

It's not worth $10 but if you're a huge ME fan like I am it's worth picking up.
 

NoSoup4You

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Feb 12, 2007
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Just gave it and bought the game. Was trying to wait until it went on sale, but I really want to play it. Now I'm trying to decide whether to buy "From Ashes". I really don't want to financially support on disk/day 1 DLC, but I also don't want to miss out on anything.

Know this - the Prothean squadmate is fully fleshed out story-wise, this character is completely developed and isn't the "rush job" that Kasumi and Zaeed were in ME2. The Prothean isn't in any way substandard in quality compared to the rest of the ME3 cast, he fits right in and has in-depth dialogue sequences on the Normandy and tons of entertaining voiceovers during missions. He's legit, he belongs.

I mention this only because previous Bioware games have conditioned us not to expect much from DLC characters. Kasumi and Zaeed were merely shadows of the other ME2 cast members as far as fleshing out their story's. Sebastian from DA2 was a little better in that regard, but he wasn't even playable in the game until you were 20 hours in.

My recommendation to anyone is to get the DLC or if you object so strongly then wait until the game drops to a price that you're comfortable with and then play it with the DLC. It's not that the DLC mission is so great (it's pretty terrible all things considered, Shadow Broker this is not), but the fact this character is so well integrated into the story makes him, for me, a must-have for anyone that's been following the franchise in any small way, shape, or form the last couple years.
 

SLU Aequitas

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On a side note, the assault rifle you get with the DLC is incredibly powerful, and uses "ME1" tech--no ammo.
 

VulgarDisplay

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The N7 shotgun full upgraded and modded is riduclously awesome. Super accurate and it 1 hits most common enemies. Combined with adrenaline rush and you just destroy the poor enemies before they can even get a shot off lol.
 

Carfax83

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The N7 shotgun full upgraded and modded is riduclously awesome. Super accurate and it 1 hits most common enemies. Combined with adrenaline rush and you just destroy the poor enemies before they can even get a shot off lol.

You must not have tried the Graal spike thrower :eek:
 

Red Hawk

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Most of the game was great. Then endings sucked. The presentation was awful, with plotholes abounding. Player choice up until that point was totally irrelevant, and more than that, it made the choices regarding other things in the galaxy that you had made up to that point meaningless. It completely lacked an epilogue, leaving the series with no closure. It was...bad. Really bad.
 

mirandu04

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this is one of those games where you sit like 10 in the evening play a little and then go to sleep at 7 in the morning