So what do Christians think of Muslims and Hindus?

[Madwand1]

Originally posted by: Jhill
I am NOT trying to start a fight, but why do billions of people worship a god, but you think your god is the true one?

The OP presumes that there is a difference in the gods. People who manage to get along in different religions often agree that they all worship the same One. People who wish to pick fights make their distinctions appear to be critical.

Here's a bit of what the Qur'an said on the topic. Note that by default it applies most strongly to Muslims:

"Those who disbelieve in God and His Messengers
and desire to make division between God
and His Messengers, and say 'We believe
in part, and disbelieve in part,' desiring
to take between this and that a way--
those in truth are the unbelievers;
and We have prepared for the unbelievers
a humbling chastisement.
And those who believe in God and His Messengers
and who make no division between any of them,
those--We shall surely give them their wages;
God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate."

4:151-153, trans. A.J. Arberry

My interpretation of this passage is not that one should submit to literal interpretations of the Qur'an and take all its contents verbatim, especially as interpreted by the mullahs, but rather as a subtle and difficult point: That this is an admonition against divisiveness among those who follow apparently different messengers of God. How is it possible to reconcile the apparent words of Jesus and Muhammad and other Messengers? This is the task of the would-be believer. Not to take the Qur'an as the single monopoly of truth, or any other such book as such, but to understand and live the message common to them all, words which would fit One called God.

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: Jhill
Do they think all these billions of people were just brain washed and ignorant?

Why do these other people worship their god just as much or probably more than Christians?

I am NOT trying to start a fight, but why do billions of people worship a god, but you think your god is the true one?

The Gospel of Jesus Christ, as it relates to your specific questions, can be condensed into a single parable that Jesus told:

A man is robbed and beaten, left by the side of the road. Several "religious" leaders pass by the broken man but do not come to his aid because they do not want to get their hands dirty, do not want to be late for church. A Samaritan (non-Jew) walks along the road, sees the hurt man, and comes to his aid.

The moral of the story is that religion is worthless without a Godly heart, and that love for your neighbor is Christ-like.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ is extended to all, no matter what sex creed race mistakes or even false teachings you have. Christians, if following the teachings of Christ, love all peoples and show to all peoples by selfless example the humility and forgiveness that Christ showed them.

Man, you don't need religion to do that. You just need to care about your fellow man. What does God have to do with any of what you just said?

Well said. If you have God in your heart, you would do what the Samaritan did. So, in some ways, caring for your fellow man is being religious in what Jesus said. Acknowledging this and cultivating it further opens you up to profound change. Just don't call yourself religious and you'll be fine!

 

[GagHalfrunt]

My fairy tales can beat up your fairy tales!!

 

[Nitemare]

just a different religion.

I believe all the fundamentalists of any religion are all nutcases and should be isolated away from the general populace though.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Analog

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: Jhill
Do they think all these billions of people were just brain washed and ignorant?

Why do these other people worship their god just as much or probably more than Christians?

I am NOT trying to start a fight, but why do billions of people worship a god, but you think your god is the true one?

The Gospel of Jesus Christ, as it relates to your specific questions, can be condensed into a single parable that Jesus told:

A man is robbed and beaten, left by the side of the road. Several "religious" leaders pass by the broken man but do not come to his aid because they do not want to get their hands dirty, do not want to be late for church. A Samaritan (non-Jew) walks along the road, sees the hurt man, and comes to his aid.

The moral of the story is that religion is worthless without a Godly heart, and that love for your neighbor is Christ-like.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ is extended to all, no matter what sex creed race mistakes or even false teachings you have. Christians, if following the teachings of Christ, love all peoples and show to all peoples by selfless example the humility and forgiveness that Christ showed them.

Man, you don't need religion to do that. You just need to care about your fellow man. What does God have to do with any of what you just said?

Well said. If you have God in your heart, you would do what the Samaritan did. So, in some ways, caring for your fellow man is being religious in what Jesus said. Acknowledging this and cultivating it further opens you up to profound change. Just don't call yourself religious and you'll be fine!

Yes, but technically the Samaritan if he had heard the gospel and chosen to not follow it is still going to hell, regardless of his good deeds...

 

[Modelworks]

/me popping popcorn
/me leans back in chair.... "this is getting good"

 

[ktehmok]

I can tell you what one person who doesn't believe in any religious horseshit thinks:

You're all fucking nuts. Keep your opinions & beliefs to yourselves. And if you knock on my door again on an early weekend morning. I'm going to turn the hose on your well dressed, completely misinformed, misguided, brainwashed ass.

 

[DivideBYZero]

:shocked::shocked::evil::frown::brokenheart::|:shocked::laugh:

 

[compuwiz1]

Originally posted by: ktehmok
I can tell you what one person who doesn't believe in any religious horseshit thinks:

You're all fucking nuts. Keep your opinions & beliefs to yourselves. And if you knock on my door again on an early weekend morning. I'm going to turn the hose on your well dressed, completely misinformed, misguided, brainwashed ass.

lol, your prerogative...have a nice life.

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Analog

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: Jhill
Do they think all these billions of people were just brain washed and ignorant?

Why do these other people worship their god just as much or probably more than Christians?

I am NOT trying to start a fight, but why do billions of people worship a god, but you think your god is the true one?

The Gospel of Jesus Christ, as it relates to your specific questions, can be condensed into a single parable that Jesus told:

A man is robbed and beaten, left by the side of the road. Several "religious" leaders pass by the broken man but do not come to his aid because they do not want to get their hands dirty, do not want to be late for church. A Samaritan (non-Jew) walks along the road, sees the hurt man, and comes to his aid.

The moral of the story is that religion is worthless without a Godly heart, and that love for your neighbor is Christ-like.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ is extended to all, no matter what sex creed race mistakes or even false teachings you have. Christians, if following the teachings of Christ, love all peoples and show to all peoples by selfless example the humility and forgiveness that Christ showed them.

Man, you don't need religion to do that. You just need to care about your fellow man. What does God have to do with any of what you just said?

Well said. If you have God in your heart, you would do what the Samaritan did. So, in some ways, caring for your fellow man is being religious in what Jesus said. Acknowledging this and cultivating it further opens you up to profound change. Just don't call yourself religious and you'll be fine!

Yes, but technically the Samaritan if he had heard the gospel and chosen to not follow it is still going to hell, regardless of his good deeds...

Perhaps you missed the point. You don't have to hear the gospel to follow the gospel. He chose to do what the gospel says, even though he didn't ever read it. Its the others who passed by, the so-called 'religious' that are going to hell.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: jjsole
What do Christians think of them, other than them going to hell, accompanying all the Jews?

thats an ignorant statement, Most likely based on no real knowledge of any religious teachings!!

Please elaborate, starting with the Christian belief that the only way to get to heaven is thru Jesus, all else go to hell. Articulate your knowledge of religious teachings that leads you to conclude Christians do indeed believe Muslims, Hindus, and Jews, will indeed get to heaven w/o accepting Jesus as their one and only Lord and Savior.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Originally posted by: OdiN
They worship a false god.

And their religion is very violent. I have even seen videos where people who have proclaimed that they want peace and that the Christian faith is a peaceful one, preach hate and violence against others.

There is even the belief that even the "peaceful" and law-abiding Christians are only being that way in order to be accepted and gain access to other countries in order to attack them from the inside.

I don't know about Hindus being this way - or why you're comparing the two.

Fixed.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

I'm a somewhat-practicing Muslim. I have been through a lot of phases:

- I love God and believe everything he says
- Maybe there is no God
- Maybe there is a God but he doesn't really give a shit. He just got bored and created this simulation - and left it on auto-pilot - for the LULZ
- There is a God, he loves us and truly cares about us - but there is no Hell. Good folks go to Heaven and bad folks just get deleted from the server. I mean, why would our Creator subject us to unimaginably cruel, brutal torture for eternity (in Hell) when he made it part of our nature to falter. Maybe Hell is just a deterrent to keep us in check.
- ???? (Still open to ideas)

At the end of the day, I don't have any proof - no one does. Hell, I can't convince myself 100%, let alone preach to the others and 'guide them to the true path'. In the end, we all have varying degrees of Faith in our God(s)...and a good bunch of us reject this outright. I can see where atheists come from and I don't blame them. Hell, I've seen some pretty good arguments for atheism. Since none of us really know what lies beyond, it's best to shut the fuck up, do whatever the hell we want in the privacy of our homes and leave it out of society/government, find peace within ourselves and let the world go on in peace, driven by nothing but the pursuit of sex, money and power.

As God intended.

 

[Eeezee]

Technically the Christians worship the same god as the Jews, the Jews just don't believe that Jesus was the son of God. Likewise, the Muslims worship the same god as the Christians, but they also believe that Jesus was just a prophet and reject the trinity. In these senses, Muslims, Christians, and Jews all worship the same god. Their only differences are methods of worship. That's generally enough to spark religious tensions and religious wars. After all, even Protestants and Roman Catholics have fought wars against each other for religious purposes, and the differences between those religions are insignificant.

Hindi, Buddhists, etc. according to a Christian are just misled. I don't think it's any more complicated than that; they just don't know better. I'm sure they feel the same way about us.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser

Originally posted by: OdiN
They worship a false god.

And their religion is very violent. I have even seen videos where people who have proclaimed that they want peace and that the Christian faith is a peaceful one, preach hate and violence against others.

There is even the belief that even the "peaceful" and law-abiding Christians are only being that way in order to be accepted and gain access to other countries in order to attack them from the inside.

I don't know about Hindus being this way - or why you're comparing the two.

Fixed.

The scary part is it's true; there are many Christians who are very violent, yet the New Testament pretty much only preaches peace and love.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser

Originally posted by: OdiN
They worship a false god.

And their religion is very violent. I have even seen videos where people who have proclaimed that they want peace and that the Christian faith is a peaceful one, preach hate and violence against others.

There is even the belief that even the "peaceful" and law-abiding Christians are only being that way in order to be accepted and gain access to other countries in order to attack them from the inside.

I don't know about Hindus being this way - or why you're comparing the two.

Fixed.

The scary part is it's true; there are many Christians who are very violent, yet the New Testament pretty much only preaches peace and love.

Where on earth did you get that idea?

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt.html

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: dighn
I'm actually really curious about it. Every time I ask this question, it is ignored. How do the religious deal with different religions?

Well, depends who you talk to.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: Chiboy
This will be my only reply to this post...

You cannot compare Muslims (Mono) & Hindus (Poly).

Christians, Muslims, & Jews have a lot in common, not going to get into it too much but the Bible, Torah, & Quran were sent down by the same god. Now what was first & what was last will come down to what religion you are.

Wow....who fed you that BS?

Yeah lol.

Originally posted by: zach0624

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: OdiN
They worship a false god.

And their religion is very violent. I have even seen videos where people who have proclaimed that they want peace and that the Muslim faith is a peaceful one, preach hate and violence against others.

There is even the belief that even the "peaceful" and law-abiding Muslims are only being that way in order to be accepted and gain access to other countries in order to attack them from the inside.

I don't know about Hindus being this way - or why you're comparing the two.

wow, that's a really close minded view.

I have to agree with zane here (I am a christian) and from what I have read on the muslim religion it is not inteded to be a violent religion (I think islam means peace, might be something like faith too not sure)

WOW, you just made yourself look like a totally misguided missile.


Islam means "Those who submit [to God].


I thought this was commonplace knowledge.

Originally posted by: ktehmok
I can tell you what one person who doesn't believe in any religious horseshit thinks:

You're all fucking nuts. Keep your opinions & beliefs to yourselves. And if you knock on my door again on an early weekend morning. I'm going to turn the hose on your well dressed, completely misinformed, misguided, brainwashed ass.

:laugh:

 

[Madwand1]

Originally posted by: EeezeeHindi, Buddhists, etc. according to a Christian are just misled. I don't think it's any more complicated than that; they just don't know better.

It's really a lot more complicated than that, and it's difficult to know better.

The main problem with Hinduism is that it is not a singular. This is taken to assume that it is polytheistic, whereas that's far from being true.

Aurobindo is quotable on these matters.

Here's a good start:

"Indian religion has always felt that since the minds, the temperaments and the intellectual affinities of men are unlimited in their variety, a perfect liberty of thought and of worship must be allowed to the individual in his approach to the Infinite."

Here's another:

"The highest spirituality indeed moves in a free and wide air far above that lower stage of seeking which is governed by religious form and dogma; it does not easily bear their limitations and, even when it admits, it transcends them; it lives in an experience which to the formal religious mind is unintelligible. But man does not arrive immediately at that highest inner elevation and, if it were demanded from him at once, he would never arrive there. At first he needs lower supports and stages of ascent; he asks for some scaffolding of dogma, worship, image, sign, form, symbol, some indulgence and permission of mixed half-natural motive on which he can stand while he builds up in him the temple of the spirit. Only when the temple is completed, can the supports be removed, the scaffolding disappear. The religious culture which now goes by the name of Hinduism not only fulfilled this purpose, but, unlike certain credal religions, it knew its purpose. It gave itself no name, because it set itself no sectarian limits; it claimed no universal adhesion, asserted no sole infallible dogma, set up no single narrow path or gate of salvation; it was less a creed or cult than a continuously enlarging tradition of the Godward endeavour of the human spirit."

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sri_Aurobindo

 

[IGBT]

Originally posted by: ktehmok
I can tell you what one person who doesn't believe in any religious horseshit thinks:

You're all fucking nuts. Keep your opinions & beliefs to yourselves. And if you knock on my door again on an early weekend morning. I'm going to turn the hose on your well dressed, completely misinformed, misguided, brainwashed ass.

..but yet you believe in the carbon con.

 

[Kirby]

<-Christian, does not think of Muslims and Hindus

 

[Aquila76]

Originally posted by: ktehmok
I can tell you what one person who doesn't believe in any religious horseshit thinks:

You're all fucking nuts. Keep your opinions & beliefs to yourselves. And if you knock on my door again on an early weekend morning. I'm going to turn the hose on your well dressed, completely misinformed, misguided, brainwashed ass.

Hmm. Then why does that eBay page in your sig (see 'Read this please' link; Text) have 15 instances of 'God' in it? Since they're nuts, shouldn't you hose them, too?

 

[meltdown75]

the people that post this shit up need to play in traffic during rush hour.

join a God damn religion forum FFS.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Jhill
Do they think all these billions of people were just brain washed and ignorant?

Why do these other people worship their god just as much or probably more than Christians?

I am NOT trying to start a fight, but why do billions of people worship a god, but you think your god is the true one?

to each his/her own. it's the radical followers of any religion that scare me.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: OdiN
They worship a false god.

And their religion is very violent. I have even seen videos where people who have proclaimed that they want peace and that the Muslim faith is a peaceful one, preach hate and violence against others.

There is even the belief that even the "peaceful" and law-abiding Muslims are only being that way in order to be accepted and gain access to other countries in order to attack them from the inside.

I don't know about Hindus being this way - or why you're comparing the two.

wow, that's a really close minded view.

How so?

Wow. I hate finding myself agreeing with anything zanejohnson says.

Based on this post, I'd say that your faith is so solid as to believe what you've been taught over anything anyone else has been taught - thus, your mind is closed to anyone else's viewpoint containing any truth.

Also based on the direction this post is headed, it will likely end up in P&N.